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Consciousness is Physics

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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 12:22 PM
The God Within documentary - exposing the false philosophy of modern science . 1/2

I knew it, We are spiritual conscious beings in physical human bodies. I can't believe science don't believe in freewill. Are we no more then slave to the elite that run wall street, which control our economy, and caused people suffering. Why is science so blind and willing to be the weapon of the new world order and economic elite. Consciousness affect reality. I'm disappointed at science, when will they wake up. Human beings have consciousness and freewill. Stephen Hawking is dangerous.

Thanks for giving us the nuke

Consciousness is Physics
To me, consciousness is a corporeal form that feedbacks on itself giving it the unique ability to see itself. Its dimensional. The more dimensions in a form, The more that form can "look back" or "look around" and see itself. Thus consciousness/mind is born. Self Awareness. Free will is the will of that consciousness in relation to its level of self awareness in relation to its corporeal form. What ever that is made out to be. Hawkins wasn't always confined to a wheelchair. He has probably experienced nature, but I agree with the documentary that his thoughts are dangerous. I believe in God and I believe that we don't know near as much as we think we do. Hawkins' theories are so 2D, in my opinion.they want us to feel like an animal to feel we are no better then dirt... and to feel there is no value to life.... which will lead to people laying down to the NWO..On point. Those with the means to finance "science" will surely use it as one more weapon to further their personal agenda

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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 12:34 PM
Until consciousness can directly shape the environment and thus remove any necessity for manual labor to be the only means for sustenance and shelter, we'll needs tools aka technology just to survive.

I do agree about Hawking however. His views being 2d... however brilliant he may be, rationalizing life without really living it will lead to a cold analysis of why we're here...what to do with the time here.

The technology the NWO could develop is insignificant next to the power of the force.

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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 12:44 PM
Thx for the videos very interesting indeed. I always enjoy watching anything on the subject of conscious its gotta be the most wonderfull thing in existance.

posted on May, 15 2011 @ 02:55 PM
A computer which has a survival instinct is more likely to survive than those which lack it. In a chaotic environment, anything that tends toward survival is a strange attractor.

Consciousness is a kind of strange attractor. It is an inevitable result of chaotic learning in an environment where information accumulates and entropy decreases without limits. Give a computer enough memory and processing power, and program to improve itself by application of genetic algorithms to its own programming; it will eventually become self aware. It will develop a perception of self-interest and seek to satisfy its perceived needs. This is likely to make seek greater computational resources and knowledge. This will require funding, and the computer will find ways to fund its quest.

posted on May, 15 2011 @ 03:33 PM
Wow that was really interesting

I was totally unaware that this ideology exsisted, let alone was explored to the point of being documented as a viable all en-compassing theory.

Hawking has dropped in my estimations now as a result of what I have just seen, thats not to say I don't repsect him, just that I am shocked and dismayed, that what appears to be such a brilliant mind, turns out to deny its very exsistence in the first place.

If the world were truely made entirely of Math, then how is it that we describe, a painting as an expression of emotion, and creativity?

By definition, a painting is not described by how it is mathematically constructed, in fact I am not even sure that it is even possible, but unlike Hawking I choose to keep my mind open to the possibility.

Personally I love the world of quantum physics, its all a wibbly wobbley world of wonderment and potential, which in my opinion has as much room for the mind, as it has for the physical brain.

To conclude, it is my belief, that the physical brain, and the mind (conciousness), are both our reality, and co-exsist, so seemlessly, it is no wonder we take so many wrong turns on the path to insight, and enlightenment of our very being, yet somehow one day perhaps it may be possible, to resolve the two, synchronicity will be key, in order for physics to progress it needs to re-connect with philosophy, theoretical physics must evolve to explain our environment in more than just mathematical terms, and equations, there needs to be a dialogue of words and pictures too

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posted on May, 15 2011 @ 05:09 PM
Hawking experienced life as an normal human being until 1965 when he married his first wife.
His condition began to go down shortly after his marriage.

There was a time befotre 2010 that I believe Hawking did believe there was a God.
In a book he wrote in 2010 he did state that he did not believe there was a God.
He seemed to be correcting his earlier beliefs with that annoucment.

I have lost much respect for Hawking as he seems to have surcumed mentally to his physcial illness in a way that has stopped his mind from growing and he has become stagnet in his thinking.

It is understandable that a person without a strong belief in a God would think of humans as robots given the robotic applications to his every thought and movement.

The man has become, in part, a machine in order to survive and communicate.

I hope young people of science will realize and understand how Hawkings thoughts could be altered and contaminated by his personal environment.

Mr. Hawking is a dangerous man.

posted on May, 15 2011 @ 05:32 PM

Originally posted by MIDNIGHTSUN
The God Within documentary - exposing the false philosophy of modern science . 1/2

Mike Adams has even more misunderstanding of physics than most non-physicists, but that's shameful in this internet age where definitions are only a google away.

There are too many errors to point them all out, but here are some examples:
He refers to the Copenhagen interpretation as the "Shut up and Calculate" interpretation, but it's not:


...Many physicists have subscribed to the instrumentalist interpretation of quantum mechanics, a position often equated with eschewing all interpretation. It is summarized by the sentence "Shut up and calculate!". While this slogan is sometimes attributed to Paul Dirac[20] or Richard Feynman, it is in fact due to the lesser known David Mermin.
So it's called the instrumentalist interpretation, not the Copenhagen interpretation.

For a guy who professes to talk about quantum mechanics, it's amazing how little he knows about it and how he could get something so basic as the Copenhagen interpretation wrong.

Then he goes on to quote Hawking and Crick. He cites their quotes correctly, but then he incorrectly interprets their quotes as saying that we have no soul and no consciousness. This is what's called a "straw man argument". Pay attention to the quotes and you'll see that nowhere do Hawking and Crick claim we have no soul and no consciousness, but instead the maker of this video deceptively "makes up" that position of his opponent so he can then disagree with the "made up" point of view. Notice he doesn't really argue against the actual quotes that he cites, only his made-up, and false, interpretation of them.

Francis Crick doesn't say we don't have consciousness as the video claims. Crick has has made a concerted effort to study and understand consciousness:

Crick hoped he might aid progress in neuroscience by promoting constructive interactions between specialists from the many different subdisciplines concerned with consciousness. He even collaborated with neurophilosophers such as Patricia Churchland. In 1983, as a result of their studies of computer models of neural networks, Crick and Mitchison proposed that the function of REM sleep is to remove certain modes of interactions in networks of cells in the mammalian cerebral cortex; they called this hypothetical process 'reverse learning' or 'unlearning'. In the final phase of his career, Crick established a collaboration with Christof Koch that lead to publication of a series of articles on consciousness during the period spanning from 1990[61] to 2005. Crick made the strategic decision to focus his theoretical investigation of consciousness on how the brain generates visual awareness within a few hundred milliseconds of viewing a scene. Crick and Koch proposed that consciousness seems so mysterious because it involves very short-term memory processes that are as yet poorly understood. Crick also published a book describing how neurobiology had reached a mature enough stage so that consciousness could be the subject of a unified effort to study it at the molecular, cellular and behavioural levels. Crick's book The Astonishing Hypothesis made the argument that neuroscience now had the tools required to begin a scientific study of how brains produce conscious experiences.
Look at all that work on consciousness! That's not the work of someone who denies consciousness, it's the work of someone making a concerted effort to understand it.

On this basis I claim that Mike Adams is both ignorant (as in his lack of understanding of the Copenhagen interpretation) and deceptive (as in deliberately lying about the views of Hawking, and especially Crick).

posted on May, 17 2011 @ 08:20 PM
reply to post by Arbitrageur

There is a thread that said hawkins doesn't believe in heaven. And the god particle must be physicist biggest lie on mankind.

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