Narco terror continues in mexico, page 1
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reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 01:18 AM by VicDiaz89
reply to post by yourmaker


its prett frightening when you know that a terrorist group has an endless supply of money,firearms,connections that include military personel and politicians and its all happening just over our southern front..



reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 10:49 AM by coolhanddan
reply to post by Luckyxfactor


Ok I live in Mexico, ooooooooooooooooooo

all 24 hours a day, 7 days a week in Ensenada, 1 1/2 to 2 hours south of San Diego.

Yes there is a problem, and it involves many different issues. I will go into points later but a brief overview is here, it is almost the exact problem the United States had in the 1980's. Mexico is not doing the same things the United States did. Instead of harsher drug laws, Mexico has chosen to be more liberal and not criminalize small amounts of drugs but go after big fish with the military. The problem with this is the big fish own most of the Mexican government in the southern half, the border and major cities of Mexico. There is not much left the drug runners do not control. Although the President has started a war against the Narcos, he only has destroyed a couple groups and left other Narcos groups alone.


I will list the problems I see in no particular order.

Another problem that is different than the US of the 80's is MOST not some of the police are dirty. There are laws changing this but it will take time. A huge set back was the release of all the dirty Tijuana cops because of lack of evidence which just happened, its nice to know they can no longer get their jobs back but they are on the streets again. The reason is the same reason for all police and military going dirty, money, these guys make less than 10,000 a year, most half that. Tell me if someone gave your a year salary not to drive down a road one night or look the other way, would you do it? Most ordinary police from city and federal are dirty, will take any bribe and look the other way for almost anything, from speeding to DUI to moving drugs across the border, if you do not believe me flash a 10-20 dollar bill next time you get pulled over in Mexico, and the police will go back to his car promptly. This is even cheaper for locals, I got out of a failure to stop at a sign for 100 pesos, which is like 8 bucks American. The bribes get bigger as the people that take them salaries are larger, just like the dirty ones in the U.S.

Mexico has this problem, they get money from the US federal government to fight these drug runners, which expand the military not diminish the problem. Mexico is beholden to the US Federal government and thus is in line with American drug laws. When U.S. states then legalize some of the illegal products the Federal Government is against it creates a conflict.

Prosecution is a joke here, the way the laws are written it is far easier if you have a little money to get off free of any charges, think of American laws for white collar crimes and then impose no jury but only decided by judges in closed chambers, you get the idea.....

Another is guns. In Mexico it is illegal to own a firearm, unless you are part of a hunting group and can use shotguns to kill birds (very hard to even do). For decades Americans have illegally moved guns to Mexico and they wind up in the hands of Narcos not your average citizen.

A key problem is the issue of who owns this problem, the Mexicans in general usually say something like, stop the drug problem in America and drug runners wont have a job in Mexico. This is an easy decision to make when the problem is so hard and complex to solve. Mexicans also blame America on the gun problem in their country, like the drug problem, no one wanted guns until drug runners had to protect themselves from other drug runners.
Although I do not think this is an answer to the problem, it is a clue to the answer.

To really fix things, the laws have to change, the police have to get fired and replaced everywhere. Rico laws need to be implemented to round up all the bad guys, police included on the same charges. The gun issue needs to be addressed with the American border as well as the Chinese container chips that bring in AK's.

So in essence its a border control/security problem. Until both America and Mexico control their borders this problem will not go away. IF Mexico really does this, watch out America you will have major problems at sea as the drugs will go back to that route. The border going to Mexico would no longer be easy and they would lose most of the tourist money the country needs to stay afloat (70% of GDP for Mexico is tourism). You see why it is a hard decision to make for Mexicans. IF America really does this, holy cow, all the problems America faces would disappear. What is stopping America from protecting her borders??????????????

no easy drugs?
gun sales going down?
anything else I am missing?


To summarize Narco Terrorism will continue and get worse, the killings already are nastier than Taliban just because there is no religion to set standards for the killers. Until the Narco Terrorist have no money to spend on weapons and hired killers this will go on, or all the problems get solved above. I will not hold my breath for this to be done.
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