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FBI File on MJ-12 and extra-terestrial biological entity "EBE"

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posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:21 AM
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Hello all, just bee scoping out the FBI Vault website and found a file on MJ-12 and EBE's, all i can say is it looks pretty legitimate and convincing as its marked "for eyes only" in sections, where getting closer and closer to disclosure and truth, so to all the people who think EBE's and UFO's dont exist....HA!.... now whos laughing!FBI Vault Thank you to the person who posted the"Disclosure is coming"post.

NOTE: This has bogus writtin on the pages but it makes a interesting file as there have been people like william Cooper talk about MJ-12 project sighn and project grudge which he spoke of quite some time ago in a video at a confrence.
edit on 19/01/2011 by Tahnya86 because: added comments




posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:29 AM
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DID YOU LOOK at your link??


Go to page four of the PDF, for example.

See that? The word "BOGUS" written in large letters, in black marker, over the entire page with the title:

"TOP SECRET/MAJIC"

"EYES ONLY"

....AND, keeps going, for five or six pages. All that are labelled with the "MAJIC" title.

I think, maybe, the FBI were "laughing" at the gullible believers.
edit on 13 April 2011 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:36 AM
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So I suppose the word BOGUS all over it and the fact that the FBI said it was a hoax don't mean anything?

This does not help the case that the document put out in the 80's is legit.

I don't understand the point of your OP. It offers no new information.



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:37 AM
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And also on page 8 of the document it states 'The document is completely bogus'.

I swear these FBI vault files are causing more problems than they are revelations!

Peace out



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:44 AM
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I dont know whether the EBE story is misinformation or not, but the fact of the matter is "Victor," a former employee from S-4 in Area 51 risked his life to give us this information. www.youtube.com...

He did numerous interviews that confirm his validity without a doubt.

Our government treated these beings like the scum of the universe. A real disgrace to humanity as a whole.



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:48 AM
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Originally posted by Tahnya86
Hello all, just bee scoping out the FBI Vault website and found a file on MJ-12 and EBE's, all i can say is it looks pretty legitimate and convincing as its marked "for eyes only" in sections, where getting closer and closer to disclosure and truth, so to all the people who think EBE's and UFO's dont exist....HA!.... now whos laughing!FBI Vault Thank you to the person who posted the"Disclosure is coming"post.

NOTE: This has bogus writtin on the pages but it makes a interesting file as there have been people like william Cooper talk about MJ-12 project sighn and project grudge which he spoke of quite some time ago in a video at a confrence.
edit on 19/01/2011 by Tahnya86 because: added comments


The file is soooo old, that was one of the first things i ever downloaded from '' The Black Vault'' about 10 years ago.....



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:49 AM
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as i forgot to add ofcorse NOTE: This has bogus writtin on the pages but it makes a interesting file as there have been people like william Cooper talk about MJ-12 project sighn and project grudge which he spoke of quite some time ago in a video at a confrence. BUT like i say, its abit odd that thes things have been mentioned by many people and cosidering there was a recent post called "Disclosure is coming" which mentioned the same thing about extraterestrials" Kind of links things up, the FBI might have written bogus all over the pages but whos to say this wasnt published as a way to make people think it all is bogus just cause the FBI says it is...serriosley, open your mind people, look at all the videos,witnesses and evidence as serrisoley tell me this probebly isnt actualy FACT! im sick of getting all the DEBUNKERS all the time, im not a morron i did see the big writing jeese!
edit on 19/01/2011 by Tahnya86 because: typos.



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by iversusvsversusi
I dont know whether the EBE story is misinformation or not, but the fact of the matter is "Victor," a former employee from S-4 in Area 51 risked his life to give us this information. www.youtube.com...

Allegedly....I could say the same thing....

Originally posted by iversusvsversusi
He did numerous interviews that confirm his validity without a doubt.

How can his interviews confirm anything without a doubt?...It's his word versus whose?

Originally posted by iversusvsversusi
Our government treated these beings like the scum of the universe. A real disgrace to humanity as a whole.

As a part of humanity as a whole, i take offense to these allegations and demand proof of such occurrences.....



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Although have you ever considered the ''Bogus'' Markintgs could be disinformation... Why would they retain and release the files if they were fake or a hoax.... Why not just delete them altogether.

Although i still stand by my original rpely.... these docs are sooo old.

I remember trying to download and print these when i still had dial up net, it took me about 2 hours back in 2001

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posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Jimbowsk
And also on page 8 of the document it states 'The document is completely bogus'.


Before that, it states:

"The Office of Special Investigations, US Airforce, advised on november 30, 1988, that the document was fabricated."

So writing 'bogus' over it is a reaction to a given advise. That doesn't mean too much, does it?



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by Tahnya86
reply to post by Tahnya86
 


as i forgot to add ofcorse NOTE: This has bogus writtin on the pages but it makes a interesting file as there have been people like william Cooper talk about MJ-12 project sighn and project grudge which he spoke of quite some time ago in a video at a confrence. BUT like i say, its abit odd that thes things have been mentioned by many people and cosidering there was a recent post called "Disclosure is coming" which mentioned the same thing about extraterestrials" Kind of links things up, the FBI miht have written bogus all over the pages but whos to say this was published as a way to make people think it all is bogus just cause the FBI says it is...serriosley, open your mind people, look at all the videos,witnesses and evidence as serrisoley tell me this probebly isnt actualy FACT! im sick of getting all the DEBUNKERS all the time, im not a morron i did see the big writing jeese!


The fact that these men simply mentioned the instances documented in these briefings confirms nothing...

You do understand that these documents have been available to the general public for decades...no?

Anyone who has read them, (Many ATS members), could mention them in passing....

It wouldn't solidify the materiel in any way...

If i read Harry Potter, and held a press conference to discuss what i've discovered within the pages, it wouldn't make Wizard Schools real....



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by Tahnya86
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as i forgot to add ofcorse NOTE: This has bogus writtin on the pages but it makes a interesting file as there have been people like william Cooper talk about MJ-12 project sighn and project grudge which he spoke of quite some time ago in a video at a confrence. BUT like i say, its abit odd that thes things have been mentioned by many people and cosidering there was a recent post called "Disclosure is coming" which mentioned the same thing about extraterestrials" Kind of links things up, the FBI might have written bogus all over the pages but whos to say this wasnt published as a way to make people think it all is bogus just cause the FBI says it is...serriosley, open your mind people, look at all the videos,witnesses and evidence as serrisoley tell me this probebly isnt actualy FACT! im sick of getting all the DEBUNKERS all the time, im not a morron i did see the big writing jeese!
edit on 19/01/2011 by Tahnya86 because: typos.


Me thinks you didn't bother to read the whole thing before running to ATS to start a new thread.



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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I dont think I can facepalm enough for threads like this - trust me, i'd love nothing more than disclosure to happen but it seems you're damned if you do and damned if you don't!

Why release the files then put 'bogus' all over them just to throw us off? If they wanted to withhold the information they would, they wouldn't be having a disinfo campaign to put these docs up then write 'bogus' all over them, they've got better things to do!!


As for 'Victor' confirming his validity, that's just not true at all - I've always found the Victor story fascinating, but proof-wise, there's is nothing that backs this up.

I sincerely do think disclosure is coming, this however, is not part of it


Peace out



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 09:19 AM
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thank you to the person who condiered dis information, to the rest who show nothing but belittlement and put downs get a life, i read throught he WHOLE document why dont you read what I Have said! but il say it again!: CONSIDERING THE EVIDENCCE PROVIDED BY MANY OVER THE YEARS INCLUDING WILLIAM S COOPER! IT DOES SHOW SOME KIND OF RE OCCURENCE AND POSSIBILITY THAT THIS COULD BE TRUE! and we know ufos are real from all the evidence such as videos even from NASA footage showing unusual craft! SO "FACE PALM" your selves! if all your goal on here is to give people the craps you suceeded in that and waisting my time tying this reply to you and having to read through your useless babling and close minde thoughts!



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 09:30 AM
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It's not always down to being closed-minded - in my case it's down to me being a member of ATS for over 5 years and seeing things like this pop up regularly.

This isn't by any means a personal attack, if I was gonna do that I'd attack your grammar and spelling
(I joke I joke!). I'm just stating things like this have been floating around for years and it proves nothing. A report was filed, usually by a member of joe public, and found to have no substantial evidence or even proved to be a hoax - when this happens, just move along, let it go, it's not worth the info/disinfo debate. If the evidence was more concrete then fair enough!

Just to reiterate, this isn't a personal attack, you seem to be a little touchy in your replies - there are a lot of posters on ATS who will try and flame you, but that's not my style



Peace out



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Jimbowsk
It's not always down to being closed-minded - in my case it's down to me being a member of ATS for over 5 years and seeing things like this pop up regularly.

This isn't by any means a personal attack, if I was gonna do that I'd attack your grammar and spelling
(I joke I joke!). I'm just stating things like this have been floating around for years and it proves nothing. A report was filed, usually by a member of joe public, and found to have no substantial evidence or even proved to be a hoax - when this happens, just move along, let it go, it's not worth the info/disinfo debate. If the evidence was more concrete then fair enough!

Just to reiterate, this isn't a personal attack, you seem to be a little touchy in your replies - there are a lot of posters on ATS who will try and flame you, but that's not my style



Peace out


ditto....Most of us are trying to help you to understand what you're reading, and don't want you getting wrapped up in conspiracy theory nonsense....

I don't even know you and i don't want to see you fall into the vast pool of ignorance and acceptance that so many 'new kids' are prone to drowning in....

You shouldn't be worried, or scared, or concerned, or even excited over what amount to 'campfire stories'.....

If you're not willing to learn, you'll have a tough time getting through....good luck....



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 09:47 AM
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That's what I was trying to sum up but you put it much better than I did - I'm trying to work at the same time too, ATS is just much more interesting!


There's still plenty of people on ATS that are here to help, not just to flame and/or troll, we want disclosure as much as the next person


Peace out



posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 10:01 AM
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Why would the FBI even feel the need to put "Bogus" on the documents if UFOs and aliens are obviously fantasy to most people? The truth is the documents are real and they got leaked so they are doing damage control. Slap "Bogus" across the pages and people will believe it, there you go. I believe the documents are real because there are certain things in the documents that only people on the "inside" could have known at the time of their release in the 1980s. There was some information known today that wasn't known in the 1980s, things only someone with top secret clearance would have known. Dates and names match up with other declassified public documents in reference to meetings with president Truman. If it were a hoax, it would be the most elaborate UFO hoax in history and someone with top secret clearance would have been responsible for the hoax, but to me the evidence points towards those documents being real. There were just too many major changes to the structure of our government almost immediately after July 1947. The Air Force started two months later along with the Secretary of Defense position. James Forrestal was our first Secretary of Defense and one of the members of the Majestic Twelve. There are strange circumstances surrounding his death. He kept diaries with him where he wrote about many things and til this day, some of those entries are "missing". The war was over and there was no immediate threat to make such drastic changes to the structure of the government.
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posted on Apr, 13 2011 @ 10:04 AM
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I also
I don't understand the point of your OP



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