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Ecstasy Study

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posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:03 AM
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www.amc.nl...

in the netherlands, they are looking for people, that have never done ecstasy before, for an expriement...

it's not in english and i am not a very good translator


btw wasn't sure were to post this...



arc

posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:09 AM
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hmmmm I wouldn't advise anyone to sign up for that one. Ecstacy has some nasty effects, both short and long term. I've known way too many people in my own life who have suffered various mental illnesses caused partly by using E



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:10 AM
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ARE YOUR SCIENTISTS NUTS!!!!!!


The effects of esctasy can be fatal, even in the first timers!!

I have treated many overdose victims, just one tablet put a spike victim into a coma which made her loose her baby at 3 months!!!!


If they are going to do this, then they better be prepared for the consquences for the outcome! And they better give all the information to the volunteers so they know that it is destroying their brains, even if it is cut into the safe zone!!

Not a happy bunny after hearing this!!



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:13 AM
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I don't condone the use of it. X will eat holes into your brain and make it look like you have mad cow disease... is it jacobson disease in humans? All i know is mad cow disease eats holes into the cows brain. When this happens to humans your brain will try to find other ways to perform the same functions, i guess until you do too much that you either OD or your brain it totally rotten.

I have no sympathy for those who do drugs, You take them at your own risk.



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:13 AM
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btw, I know a lot of "etards"



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:13 AM
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I have never done ecstasy, I guess I fear all drugs except alcohol and weed. what exactly does ecstasy do to a users health and what kind of a high does it give?



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:18 AM
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I think it affects everyone differently, I've only done it 4 times, it's not my bag. Anyways when I did it I lost any anxiety, felt like an energy pulsing through my body, My body temp rose considerably. I felt like I knew people my entire life that I just met, and wanted to chit chat with them. Everything felt good, the breeze against my skin, someone touching me, it lasted 4 hours then it was like damn, it's over? What a waste of 20 bucks.

I suggest you don't try it, it's very easy to become addicted, because of the false sense of happiness/content that it provides, I have friend that would Roll Balls 3 days a week and pop any where from 2-5 tabs at a time.

It's bad for you, and you never know what else is in it, it could be herion based, speed based, you name it, and it could be it.

My friends got bunk X once which was really Crystal Meth, they werent too pleased.

Take my advice, stay far away.


but nothing wrong with a lil greeny green.



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:28 AM
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Thanks Lysergic. So, can I conclude from your post that almost everything someone does while on ecstasy would be "wonderful". Is the user in control of their brain and actions or does it cause blackouts? Could I assume by taking ecstasy, that I would not mind driving my car into a building and killing myself?



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:30 AM
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Want my story?

I am a nurse in the reserved MC in the army and i also work in the local mental health hospital on my days off from the base.
I was on night duty and had just started my shift when i was called up to the casualty dep and had to assist with a resident that had got a hold of E's and had about three, causing him to act very demented and needed to be restrained numerous times.
Since he was also on other medication we had little way to treat him apart from rapid fluids and constant obs, hoping that the high wouldn't last long?


At about 0300 he broke loose and ran pretty much through the hospital and the alarm was raised for help. Myself and several others headed to catch him and we spotted him on the roof that led to the garden below. We managed to corner him in and try and talk him out of his daze, but failing, he ran towards us and we tried to restrain him and i was thrown clear of the roof and landed right against an tree and slid down to the ground. The last thing i remember is getting him to the hospital and me landing on the ground with a concussion!!

Several days later after collapsing with a temp of 103 and needing a lot of antibiotics and other treatments i was let go and when on duty again i found out what had happened to the guy?

When they brought him in they got all the tests done but about an hour later he suffered a massive MI from a blood clot that formed in his viens and had travelled to his brain at high speed. We knew this could happen so they treated him with asprin to thin his blood but because the trip he was on was setting his heart at mach 2...he flatlined and his brain started to hemorridge!

In most cases you only see a mild reaction, ie. a high and sense of hightened energy and andrenalin rush but in severe cases, it can lead to death, especially if there is alcohol in your blood. Many people can take Esctasy for years and nothing will happen, others, one pill, one coffin!!


Hope this freaks you out! It did to the class i told about the dangers of drugs!



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:38 AM
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also X doesnt always have MDMA in it, it will have a similar but more deadly drug called PMA (Para-methoxy-amphetamine, 4-MA) Chemical Formula C10H15NO

PMA has been used as a recreational psychoactive (primarily in the 70s), at doses around 50 mg. Unfortunately, more often it has been sold as MDA or MDMA (ecstasy). The dosages for MDMA (80-160 mg) are significantly higher than those of PMA. At 60-80 mg, PMA can become extremely dangerous, causing increased blood temperature and blood pressure. In recent cases, PMA has been sold as ecstasy, in pressed pill form indistinguishable from ecstasy and at unknown dosages.

It can also cause the following:

muscle spasms
increased blood temperature
increased blood pressure
increased body temperature (fever)
increased pulse rate
labored breathing
nausea & vomiting
convulsions, coma & death

Pure PMA is a white powder and is has been found most frequently in pressed pill form sold as ecstasy. There is very little available information about safe recreational dosages for PMA. Doses as low as 60 mg can cause significant and alarming increase in blood pressure, body temperature and pulse.


My advice, just stick to God's Green Plant



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:57 AM
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oh, you guys are getting me all wrong, I have no interest in trying any other drugs. I'm just curious about ecstasy cause it looks as if it's an epidemic in the states. Just gathering information, thats all.


arc

posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 09:58 AM
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my advice - be careful even with the weed. It doesn't have consistant bad effects but with some people, especially those who are regular and long term users, there are adverse effects on confidence, anxiety levels and general mental health. And I do know this from personal experience unfortunately.



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 10:02 AM
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I agree with you there too arc.

Again use any and all controlled substances at YOUR OWN RISK

Better yet, stay sober.


arc

posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 10:17 AM
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straight edge certainly has it's benefits



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 11:19 AM
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I completely agree with you arc, too bad some of us have to learn the hard way, but at least we're still here to tell about it, many aren't including some good friends.
I was going to translate the link with my handy dandy translater and paste it, but William will have a fit!
J/K.



posted on Mar, 24 2003 @ 11:38 AM
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How many xtc deaths are due to bad production or by something that is identified as xtc but is actually something else (crystal meth)? I mean how many deaths compared to deaths otherwise, just from normal x.

XAOS




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