Donald Trump Demands Obama's Birth Certificate on ''The View'', page 3
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reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:14 AM by Havick007
reply to post by MrXYZ



lmao i love that tin foil hat image... it's so funny because i used to know a guy in high school that looked almost exactly like the guy in the hat!!


reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:15 AM by rogerramjett
reply to post by Havick007



Never liked the man from the start, he is just another puppet for TPTB. I would like to see his real birth certificate as well but the gut tells me it is not from this side of the pond.


reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:17 AM by Havick007
reply to post by boondock-saint



Yeah that's a good point, all that money and power... definatly out of touch!!

Although the same goes for the majority of politician's now and in the past. I cant see it changing anytime soon...sadly.



reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:25 AM by MrXYZ
Originally posted by Havick007
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post by boondock-saint



Yeah that's a good point, all that money and power... definatly out of touch!!

Although the same goes for the majority of politician's now and in the past. I cant see it changing anytime soon...sadly.


I think people are making a crucial mistake by focusing on individual politicians. The entire left vs right is nothing but gladiator games to entertain the masses. The system is broken because no matter the politician, he's always being controlled by lobbyists sooner or later. Politicians now stopped working for citizens, they are working for themselves like people in the private industry. So after a few years in office, time they use to push through laws/regulations that favor whatever lobbyists pay them, they get offered lucrative jobs from the very people who paid their campaigns while they were in office.

It's not "by the people for the people" anymore, it's "by the people for corporations" nowadays. Until that's fixed, it doesn't really matter who's in power. Money corrupts people, and everyone has his/her price...and corporations are willing and able to pay that price, no matter what it is.

But sadly, instead of focusing on this important issue, we have people doubting birth certificates that have already been provided. Beyond sad


reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:28 AM by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by WildWorld


All that could be found was a receipt for acknowledgment of "live birth" apparently based on an affadavit by the grandparents who did live in Hawaii (and who also put an announcement in the local paper). The long form requires the name of the doctor and the hospital with the doctor's signature, etc. If I went to my local DMV with what BHO produced to "renew":my DL they would send me home.....and I am talking about a renewal not some new application for a DL if I came from another state (let alone another country).


reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:34 AM by Havick007
reply to post by MrXYZ



If anything the entire system is a show.... Left vs Right or Labour vs Liberal. Democrats, Republicans, Nationals, Greens etc etc. i am mixing US and AU parties so dont get confused...


It's all a show for us the public. You have to ask yourselves what really changes?

A better way to put it is, no matter what party is elected were the changes that occur inevitable? We all complain about false election promises etc but it never changes.

The above comments are speculation at best - nothing to back it up.
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reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:40 AM by XRaDiiX
reply to post by Havick007



You really think an official site is going to post information obama was in the CIA are you joking ?


reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:42 AM by Havick007
reply to post by XRaDiiX



Well i dont know... but the theory must have started somewhere and for people to be discussing it there must be someting of value or interest. I also noticed that on ATS media there is a video -

Conspiracy Chicks - Obama is CIA

I might watch it now to see what the fuss is about, although i never got into the conspiracy chicks

To me it seems far fetched and something that belongs in the Skunkworks.... BUT if there is evidence then i am all ears


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reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:42 AM by MrXYZ
Originally posted by XRaDiiX
reply to
post by Havick007



You really think an official site is going to post information obama was in the CIA are you joking ?


He asked for objective evidence...if you believe that hogwash, I take it you have some objective evidence. Because if you don't, you're just making up crap...or believe in crap others post without requiring rational/logical evidence



reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:47 AM by WildWorld
reply to post by CosmicCitizen


So then it seems perfectly reasonable to request the long form certificate. If you need more than the short form to get a license surely you would need more than the short form to be president....right?


reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:50 AM by Havick007
reply to post by CosmicCitizen



Hey all Obama needed was three simple words to win that election... you all know it....


YES WE CAN!!


That's all it took... well pretty much anyways. I never understood while on the campaign trail he went to Germany??


reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:53 AM by Havick007
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



hehe yeah very true...


Although i have to admit even as an outsider ( not in the states ) his view of econimcs and monetary policy isnt so bad.. well his current forecast's arent good but he talks about his plans and thoughts on the issue.

Although on the interview i love his capitalist view.... '' the US army is over in these foreign lands for free'' or someting to that effect. In other words he was leaning in the direction that military or the US Miliatry should be compensated for it's efforts overseas...

Talk about capitalism!!


reply posted on 25-3-2011 @ 09:54 AM by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by WildWorld


You would think....and that may have been one reason why McCain was selected as his opposition (since it is a known fact that he was not born in this country per se....in Panama but it was a US military reservation to parents who were both US citizens of legal age and were stationed there by orders from the us government)....but it establishes less resistance psychologically to the idea that another candidate may or may not have been born in the us on a technicality that the other country (Kenya) wouldnt let the mother travel out of the country b/c she was so close to giving birth (and that the dad was not a us citizen being another technicality....since the mom officially resided in Hawaii which was a state at the time). Technicallity......big deal, right? (can you say "psyops", hmmmmm?)
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