Please stop the fear mongering about radiation fallout!

Now come on people, Radiation will not fall on California or any of the united states. But for Hawaii, well heck it won’t fall there ether.

We dropped nukes on Japan in 1945 and it created mushroom clouds. Did the Jet stream fly the radiation to America? No!

How many countless Nukes did we test in the pacific and south pacific? Must have been 100+. Did the radiation fallout affect America? No!

Please stop scaring people!

I don't know the answer to this question, but hopefully someone can explain:

Is there a difference between the rods being exposed and physically leaking into the air VS. a bomb that may have controlled amounts of radiation in them?

There probably was a huge fall out then - would they have told you then - doubt it they even put it in the milk in institutions to check out the effect!

I think everyone has a right to be afraid of this Nuclear Catastropy - unfotunately we all live on the same globe.

All you have to do is look up a neclear bomb and then a nuclear power plant. You will see a bomb is no where as bad as a plant melting down...Study to show yourself approved.....You can be not ready if you want to but I would talk to the people in the Gulf area before I made up my mind to do nothing.....or, you can just do as 95% of all the people are going to do and just do as YOUR government tells you to do.....

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We dropped nukes on Japan in 1945 and it created mushroom clouds. Did the Jet stream fly the radiation to America? No! How many countless Nukes did we test in the pacific and south pacific? Must have been 100+. Did the radiation fallout affect America? No!

Study up on your subject matter before diving in. There is a vast difference between nukes, as in bombs and nukes, as in melt-down - critical mass energy plants.

I assume you are at least a meteorologist because to state, unequivocally, that there will be no radiation that reaches the west coast of North America, is just otherwise idiotic.

Respect you for trying to prevent panic but when you come to this gun fight, you should be armed with more than a few sticks.

Cheers.

Originally posted by Caji316
All you have to do is look up a bomb and then a nuclear power plant. You will see a bomb is no where as bad as a plant melting down...Study to show yourself approved......

This is what I asked. Thanks for elaborating. I would assume that a bomb would have a controlled amount, where a meltdown or leak would be more concentrated and a steady flow of it as well, till contained.

I think it is perfectly natural to be a little frightened about what may happen with a radiation leak.

"The right to be afraid."

Need I say more.

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hahaha, what are you talking about. our largest Nukes can wipe out a 120 mile area off the map

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They tested nuclear weapons in such a way as to reduce fallout etc. Like perfect atmospheric conditions before the test would go ahead. Kind of similar to the precision involved in launching a rocket. However the plant in Japan is continually burning so it is not an event lasting only a few minutes, and is therefore occurring in spite of changing local weather patterns.

The adverse radiological effects from nuke testing in the Pacific are well documented particularly genetic mutations amongst Pacific islanders. So even with ideal atmospheric conditions radiation poisoning still happened. That said I agree with you that at this point it is probably mostly panic. However due to the lack of reliable information to avoid panic, I would still suggest taking some precautions. Potassium Iodide or Kelp Iodine tablets just in case the worst should happen.

My brother in law was an engineer on a nuclear sub, and he briefly tried to explain it.
There is a nuclear 'core' which is uranium, plutonium, or some other rare earth metal. One atom is stripped, initializing the decay (nuclear energy). This decay then can Never be entirely stopped. They can only bring the rate of decay to a minimum rate (whatever that is). However, the decay will still create energy = heat. These rods will still need to be cooled somehow. Thats where we are now. From what i understand, the problem was originally caused when the quake cut the power to the water pumps responsible for cooling the core.

Radiation from Fukushima has already hit California.

www.zamg.ac.at...

I just bought a Geiger counter.

I guess the media are starting to disagree ;
www.dailymail.co.uk...

Originally posted by camaro68ss
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hahaha, what are you talking about. our largest Nukes can wipe out a 120 mile area off the map

Radiation can wipe out the whole world...ha, ha, ha....

TSA finally released the saftey studies on the pornoscanners..
10 times higher then they said was safe.

japan is the least of your worries...
they have more to fear after all GE made the MOX reactor that just blew...
GE is an American Co.
GE built quite a a few of these leggo block reactors around the US
you'll get your turn...most are 40 yrears old now and bulit on fault lines too...

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I think it would depend where the bomb exploded. If it was an air burst (as is the general military nuclear procedure) This would reduce the amount of fallout that occurs. However if the bomb explodes on the ground all the dirt and debris sucked into the explosion is irradiated and they spread over a large area.

With the nuclear plant in meltdown the radioactive material is continually burning and being released into the atmosphere. So it would all depend how much fuel was loaded into the reactor at the time of meltdown, and the yield of the bomb, plus where it was effectively detonated in relation to the ground.

Originally posted by digitalf
I guess the media are starting to disagree ;
www.dailymail.co.uk... [/quot

Best News we could have - I think it's time the media decided whos damn side they are on. The way things are going with people prefering to get their daily news online they will need to sit up and think very hard as to what role they play in this modern age - truth always wins in the end - it may take a long time coming but it wins out.

Is this the start of depopulation of the planet?

Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
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I think it would depend where the bomb exploded. If it was an air burst (as is the general military nuclear procedure) This would reduce the amount of fallout that occurs. However if the bomb explodes on the ground all the dirt and debree sucked into the explosion is irradiated and they spread over a large area.

With the nuclear plant in meltdown the radioactive material is continually burning and being released into the atmosphere. So it would all depend how much fuel was loaded into the reactor at the time of meltdown, and the yield of the bomb, plus where it was effectively detonated in relation to the ground.

Thanks for the info. Is there typically large amounts of fuel being loaded into the reactor? Is this the kind of information that is not public at this moment in Japan?

Originally posted by Seekeye2
Is this the start of depopulation of the planet?

Could be a start, if it gets out of control I would suppose. Not sure what you mean by "the start".
Is this on a desk calendar or refrigerator list of ""things to do"?

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I honestly have no idea. At least we are getting some info I suppose. If it was anything like the Chernobyl incident we wouldn't even hear about it until next week.

If there are radioactive plumes headed towards the west coast, I hope TPTB would at least try cloud seeding early enough to make it rain over the Pacific. I realize that would further destroy the ocean, but it would be better than the alternative. It would just be another way to pick your poison I guess.