Where's Ron Paul on Madison and Unions?

On all my YouTube, TV, and periodical subscriptions, I'm being showered with left/right opinions on the protests concerning Walker's budget balance and anti-collective bargaining. Usually, Ron Paul is on top of all of the national and international issues, but for some reason, I haven't seen him since this became an issue.

Do any of you know of any input by him? I don't wanna be reliant on his voice but damn, he's been seemingly invisible for a week...

reply to post by Goal Shack


Ron Paul does not believe in violent theft as being a legitimate source of funding for employment.

Therefore Ron Paul does not believe in public sector unions.

reply to post by mnemeth1


Yea, I somewhat figured this much; it would just be nice to hear his voice on them out there.

I would imagine he would have never put restrictions on forming unions in the first place. He is all about personal liberty and freedom of assembly so... I don't know why you would think he'd be against the protesters. Unions have a stigma attached to them because people want you to believe those stigmas. Stigma or not, protesting is protesting and should not be stopped.

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Good thing taxation isn't equivalent to "violent theft" then.

Ron Paul does not believe in violent theft as being a legitimate source of funding for employment.

I'm glad Ron Paul doesn't believe in "violent theft" as being a legitimate source of funding for employment while he uses "violent theft" as a source of his employment.

reply to post by Goal Shack


Government employee unions set up a conflict of interest in dividing loyalities.

Government workers are supposed to serve the public's interests, not the Unions. Their service to the pulbic is not to be held hostage to union interests and foreign or unconstitutional ideologies. They often swear an oath to the constitution and the Unions are socialist which is unconstitutional in the US. You can see the danger of having police and fire employees going on strike or taking on an bad attitude against their employer (taxpayers). They have too much power to harm or even kill the pulbic for the greed of union bosses. The public becames a hostage to the government (employees) demanding ransome.

Originally posted by mnemeth1
reply to post by Goal Shack

 

Ron Paul does not believe in violent theft as being a legitimate source of funding for employment.

Therefore Ron Paul does not believe in public sector unions.

How is being a Union member theft? Do you consider businesses cutting income down as theft? Or is that just a business cutting cost?

I don't see any difference between employers cutting down wages to save and employees petitioning them collectively to raise it. There is little difference in nature, and nobody is being forced to take it. Unions are no difference from political and other advocacy groups, they hold those same fundalmental rights to gather, to petitition, to protest.

Originally posted by Whyhi
reply to post by mnemeth1

I'm glad Ron Paul doesn't believe in "violent theft" as being a legitimate source of funding for employment while he uses "violent theft" as a source of his employment.

I tell ya, while Ron may get things right time to time, the majority of his policies and beliefs are either contradictary or fantasy. I heard somewhere that Ron Paul wanted to eliminate taxes, but then again I have not seen him make this statement, instead he proposes a form of sales or flat tax. Either way, force is still being used on businesses to pay the government and to distribute some of their wealth to the public.

You can lie to me all day long, it's not going to change what the truth is.

You have my pity, for you obviously know not what you support.

Originally posted by mnemeth1
You can lie to me all day long, it's not going to change what the truth is.

The truth simply is:

Businesses cut income and wages to cut costs or increase profits,
Unions consist of employees petitioning businesses in one way or another to increase wages.

There are no differences in nature. There are bad unions, and there are bad businesses, there are good unions and there are good businesses. Business has profit to look out to, employees have their own personal lives to look out for, there are little differences and yet all I see you stick your neck out for are businesses.

The funniest thing is that not only do you insist upon generalizing unions, but you also insist upon this notion that the employer is looking out for the best interests of the employee. This is not often the case, as evidenced from the financial crises and the issue of hiring illegals or offshoring.