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Makes sense. What happened to common sense?
Originally posted by Griffo
I was watching 'The Wright Stuff' this morning as I do occasionally when this topic was brought up.
It seems that out of body experiences are nothing more than a temporary glitch in the brain. I always had my doubts about the reality of this phenomenon, especially as one could get the same or similar effects after indulging on dissociative anaesthetics or hallucinogens.
But scientists now claim they have dispelled this myth by artificially creating an out-of-body experience using computers and cameras.
They believe the feeling of detachment occurs when the brain becomes confused by conflict between the senses - and is not proof of any "spiritual dimension" to existence.
Out of body experiences are just the product of a confused mind
It occurred to me a while ago that people who have these 'out of body experiences' have a similar experience to people who have undergone conditions of extreme G force. The reason why people get tunnel vision and can sometimes see a white light when they have experienced a lot of G force is because not enough oxygen can reach the brain. Similarly, when a person is dying, in some circumstances not enough oxygen can reach the brain which could cause similar effects to present
Originally posted by lllllllll
This proves nothing, all I'm seeing in all this is that they found a way to make the person feel as if they were 2 meters out of their body... it's just the feeling of being out, thats the glitch. This doesn't even come remotely close to what a real out of body experience is.
Please correct me if I am wrong or misunderstanding something, but from my personal experience, an out of body experience is A LOT MORE than just thinking you're 2 meters above your body.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
They don't know the mechanism for this. They say it just something that occurs in the brain.
Originally posted by Tangled2011
shame now they just set the parameters to which ones give them the results they want for their argument.
t's amazing how on the Science and Technology forum, people responding to the OP are not arguing on the basis of science. This is a forum for science, so please, argue science with science.
tOriginally posted by Matrix Rising
They don't know the mechanism for this. They say it just something that occurs in the brain.
Exactly, that's the point. They're saying that it's a phenomena generated by the brain itself, and not a real event as people perceive it to be
t Originally posted by Tangled2011
shame now they just set the parameters to which ones give them the results they want for their argument.
They wanted to see if they could artificially produce out-of-body experiences, and they were able to. That was the entire point.
Originally posted by hawkiye
Science is the one making claims they can't prove that is what is pointed out.
Originally posted by hawkiye
They can say what they want but they proved nothing. They cannot prove the brain generated the experience. They cannot prove the experience is not real.The brain processes physical senses they short circuited that and consciousness still exists. Science has no clue what animates the body and produces thought, self awareness, and consciousness etc. The brain is just a mechanism that is powered by the consciousness. Science only measures physical response. It has no way to measure the consciousness.
Artificially??? They have no idea what they produced. People have been inducing similar experiences for millennia through meditation, using plants/substances, and various means of sensory deprivation such as they do today with tanks. This does not prove it was artificial or not real it only proves the experience can b reproduced. Assuming that proves it is not real is quite a leap. As I said Science does not know all things. Assuming it does is it's biggest blind spot.
Originally posted by Matrix Rising
but this has nothing to do with an O.B.E.