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What the Mayan Elders are Saying About 2012

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posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 12:48 PM
"The greatest wisdom is in simplicity. Love, respect, tolerance, sharing, gratitude, forgiveness. It's not complex or elaborate. The real knowledge is free. It's encoded in your DNA. All you need is within you. Great teachers have said that from the beginning. Find your heart, and you will find your way."

many now say of the importance of Living from the Heart
archangel michael
& ajq'ij carlos barrios

humanity unity humanunity

Carlos Barrios: "Anthropologists visit the temple sites and read the inscriptions and make up stories about the Maya, but they do not read the signs correctly. It's just their imagination. Other people write about prophecy in the name of the Maya. They say that the world will end in December 2012. The Mayan elders are angry with this. The world will not end. It will be transformed."

"We are no longer in the World of the Fourth Sun, but we are not yet in the World of the Fifth Sun. This is the time in-between, the time of transition. As we pass through transition there is a colossal, global convergence of environmental destruction, social chaos, war, and ongoing Earth Changes."

He continues: "Humanity will continue, but in a different way. Material structures will change. From this we will have the opportunity to be more human. We are living in the most important era of the Mayan calendars and prophecies. All the prophecies of the world, all the traditions are converging now. There is no time for games. The spiritual ideal of this era is action."

Carlos tells us: "The indigenous have the calendars and know how to accurately interpret it -- not others. The Mayan Calendars comprehension of time, seasons, and cycles has proven itself to be vast and sophisticated. The Maya understand 17 different calendars such as the Tzolk'in or Cholq'ij, some of them charting time accurately over a span of more than ten million years.

"All was predicted by the mathematical cycles of the Mayan calendars. -- It will change --everything will change. Mayan Day-keepers view the Dec. 21, 2012 date as a rebirth, the start of the World of the Fifth Sun. It will be the start of a new era resulting from and signified by the solar meridian crossing the galactic equator and the Earth aligning itself with the center of the galaxy."

At sunrise on December 21, 2012 for the first time in 26,000 years the Sun rises to conjunct the intersection of the Milky Way and the plane of the ecliptic. This cosmic cross is considered to be an embodiment of the Sacred Tree, The Tree of Life, a tree remembered in all the world's spiritual traditions.

Some observers say this alignment with the heart of the galaxy in 2012 will open a channel for cosmic energy to flow through the Earth, cleansing it and all that dwells upon it, raising all to a higher level of vibration. Carlos reminds us: "This process has already begun. Change is accelerating now and it will continue to accelerate.

If the people of the Earth can get to this 2012 date in good shape without having destroyed too much of the Earth, we will rise to a new, higher level. But to get there we must transform enormously powerful forces that seek to block the way."

The date specified in the calendar Winter Solstice in the year 2012 does not mark the end of the world. Many outside people writing about the Mayan calendar sensationalize this date, but they do not know. The ones who know are the indigenous elders who are entrusted with keeping the tradition.

Carlos tells us: "The economy now is a fiction. The first five-year stretch of transition from August 1987 to August 1992 was the beginning of the destruction of the material world. We have progressed ten years deeper into the transition phase by now, and many of the so-called sources of financial stability are in fact hollow. The banks are weak. This is a delicate moment for them. They could crash globally, if we don't pay attention. Now, people are paying attention."

The North and South Poles are both breaking up. The level of the water in the oceans is going to rise. But at the same time land in the ocean, especially near Cuba, is also going to rise. Carlos tells a story about the most recent Mayan New Year ceremonies in Guatemala. He said that one respected Mam elder, who lives all year in a solitary mountain cave, journeyed to Chichicastenango to speak with the people at the ceremony. The elder delivered a simple, direct message. He called for human beings to come together in support of life and light.

"Right now each person and group is going his or her own way. The elder of the mountains said there is hope if the people of the light can come together and unite in some way. We live in a world of polarity -- day and night, man and woman, positive and negative. Light and darkness need each other. They are a balance."

"Just now the dark side is very strong, and very clear about what they want. They have their vision and their priorities clearly held, and also their hierarchy. They are working in many ways so that we will be unable to connect with the spiral Fifth World in 2012."

"On the light side everyone thinks they are the most important, that their own understandings, or their group's understandings, are the key. There's a diversity of cultures and opinions, so there is competition, diffusion, and no single focus."

Carlos believes the dark side works to block unity through denial and materialism. It also works to destroy those who are working with the light to get the Earth to a higher level. They like the energy of the old, declining Fourth World, the materialism. They do not want it to change. They do not want unity. They want to stay at this level, and are afraid of the next level.

The dark power of the declining Fourth World cannot be destroyed or overpowered. It's too strong and clear for that, and that is the wrong strategy. The dark can only be transformed when confronted with simplicity and open-heartedness. This is what leads to unity, a key concept for the World of the Fifth Sun.

Carlos said the emerging era of the Fifth Sun will call attention to a much-overlooked element. Whereas the four traditional elements of Earth, Air, Fire and Water have dominated various epochs in the past, there will be a fifth element to reckon with in the time of the Fifth Sun --- that element is 'ETHER'.

The dictionary defines Ether as a "hypothetical substance supposed to occupy all space, postulated to account for the propagation of electromagnetic radiation through space." Perhaps it could be defined as the "space between space". I would suggest it could be manifest as the alignment of charged particles from our solar system (Sun), and our galaxy (Milky Way) surge. The Ether element represents spiritual energy.

"The element of the Fifth Sun is celestial. Within the context of Ether there can be a joining of the polarities. No more darkness or light in the people, but an uplifted unity. But right now the realm of darkness is not interested in this. They are organized to block it. They seek to unbalance the Earth and its environment so we will be unready for the alignment in 2012."

"We need to work together for peace, and balance with the other side. We need to take care of the Earth that feeds and shelters us. We need to put our entire mind and heart into pursuing unity and unity now, to confront the other side and preserve life."

"We are disturbed -- we can't play anymore. Our planet can be renewed or ravaged. Now is the time to awaken and take action. Everyone is needed. You are not here for no reason. Everyone who is here now has an important purpose. This is a hard but a special time. We have the opportunity for growth, but we must be ready for this moment in history."

Carlos says: "The prophesied changes are going to happen, but our attitude and actions determine how harsh or mild they are. We need to act, to make changes, and to elect people to represent us who understand and who will take political action to respect the Earth."

"Meditation and spiritual practice are good, but also action. It's very important to be clear about who you are, and also about your relation to the Earth. Develop yourself according to your own tradition and the call of your heart. But remember to respect differences, and strive for unity. Eat wisely --- a lot of food is corrupt in either subtle or gross ways. Pay attention to what you are taking into your body. Learn to preserve food, and to conserve energy. Learn some good breathing techniques, so you have mastery of your breath. Be clear. Follow a tradition with great roots. It is not important what tradition, your heart will tell you, but it must have great roots."

"We live in a world of energy. An important task at this time is to learn to sense or see the energy of everyone and everything -- people, plants, animals. This becomes increasingly important as we draw close to the World of the Fifth Sun, for it is associated with the element 'ether' -- the realm where energy lives and weaves. Go to the sacred places of the Earth to pray for peace, and have respect for the Earth which gives us our food, clothing, and shelter. We need to reactivate the energy of these sacred places. That is our work."

"One simple but effective prayer technique is to light white or baby-blue colored candles. Think of a moment in peace. Speak your intention to the flame and send the light of it on to the leaders who have the power to make war or peace."
Carlos reminds us this is a crucially important moment for humanity and for Earth. Each person is important.

He said the elders have opened the doors so that other races can come to the Mayan world to receive the tradition. "The Maya have long appreciated and respected that there are other colors, other races, and other spiritual systems. They know that the destiny of the Mayan world is related to the destiny of the whole world."

"The greatest wisdom is in simplicity. Love, respect, tolerance, sharing, gratitude, forgiveness. It's not complex or elaborate. The real knowledge is free. It's encoded in your DNA. All you need is within you. Great teachers have said that from the beginning. Find your heart, and you will find your way."


posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 12:55 PM
Yup...bring on the Fifth Sun! Put an end to the Darkness & destroy the materialists!

posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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edit on 15-2-2011 by chocise because: (no reason given)

posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 01:11 PM
reply to post by awake1234

Couldn't agree more with what was said in this thread. Thank you for taking the time to pass this on, hopefully this will enlighten some of people here at ATS.

S+F for you.

posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 01:13 PM
reply to post by awake1234

Star and Flag OP, Great Work!
I have been saying since i researched all this for myself in 2005 that 2012 isn't the end but a transition, and that the sensationalist translations are naught but propaganda, ignorance and fear-mongering.

No wonder I am so disenfranchised with the rat race our societies have become

posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 05:27 PM
Ahh this is a really great article, its been posted before but I enjoyed reading it again.

I think there's a lot of people on ats who really should take a look at this. It might help the rampant misunderstanding.

posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 05:56 PM
I think we have the power to bring the old ways of doing things to a stand still.
I think the Old way of doing things has the power to bring us to our knees.

The ONE thing that I feel is paramount in order to beat the system and bring about this brave new world and send the old one packing is.....Whatever you do, no matter what, under NO circumstances can you EVER be Fearful.
Fear is what will give the old way strength. IT will cause us to lose EVERYTHING!
PLease please please, a thousand times PLEASE, Don't be afraid. The entire human race is depending on it....LITERLLY! Fear will lose us the entire game.

Fear= Lose
Love= WIN!

posted on Feb, 15 2011 @ 09:06 PM
perhaps the globalist elites know this to be true and are so terrified of a mass awakening that they are taking giant leaps to ensure everything is destroyed and securely controlled by fascism before this happens...

posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 02:10 AM
Thank you for the article, I respect everyone who is striving to do positive things to improve themselves and their actions in daily life. Eliminate petty discords, let go of conflicts and focus on harmony between people, with harmony there is always power.

As for my take on the coming transformation I recommend people to check out Falun Dafa. Many, many prophecies say the transformation of the end times will come from the east with great power and there will be 100s of millions of "horsemen" and they will be persecuted by the great red dragon(CCP). Who are these people?

There is just one spiritual practice in the world having been spread on a large scale since 1992(same year the Mayan calendar says time was shifted...) when the end times formally started - it is Falun Dafa.

Falun Dafa, a free of charge practice form, was introduced in 1992 by Master Li Hongzhi and had explosive growth from 1992-1999 when the Chinese Communist Party(CCP) started their evil persecution of 100 million Falun Dafa practitioners, the CCP also sent out slanderring disinformation about Falun Dafa across the world.

What is Falun Dafa(and why is it so popular and powerful):

Falun Dafa (also called Falun Gong, or just Dafa) is a high-level cultivation practice(free of charge) guided by the characteristics of the universe—Truthfulness, Benevolence, and Forbearance.

"Cultivation" means continuously striving to better harmonize oneself with these universal principles. “Practice” refers to the exercises – five sets of easy-to-learn gentle movements and meditation. Cultivating oneself is essential; practicing the exercises supplements the process.

Over time, the principles of Dafa unveil the deepest and most profound truths of the universe. Following the principles, practitioners of Falun Dafa are able to reach very high realms, enlightening to the true meanings of life, and finding the path of return to their origins and true selves.

While the exercises have deep inner meanings, they also help to reduce stress and can bring great improvements in health and fitness.

Why is Falun Dafa persecuted in China?

The complex rationale behind the persecution can be broken into four elements: a paranoid dictator's fear of Falun Gong's meteoric growth and soaring popularity; that same dictator's intense jealousy of Falun Dafa's popularity; the inherent conflict between the communist regime's savage political ideology and its polar opposite—Falun Dafa's principles of "Truthfulness, Benevolence, Forbearance"; and the very nature of communism, which to sustain itself requires periodically labeling a small segment of the population as the "class enemy" to "struggle" against.

I recommend everyone to take a look at Falun Dafa, as I see it this is the true solution to all mankind´s troubles, becoming a truly good, healthy and serene person always striving to assist others in daily life. And it is no coincidence all the prophecies point to Falun Dafa and Master Li Hongzhi during the end times...

Web link to learn more:

posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 02:32 AM
Great article ! S&F for ya.

I know who I am....I've found my purpose in life.....I've found my true path is clear.
Still....I am powerless and WAITING FOR CHANGE.

posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 03:12 AM

Originally posted by the_0bserver85
Great article ! S&F for ya.

I know who I am....I've found my purpose in life.....I've found my true path is clear.
Still....I am powerless and WAITING FOR CHANGE.

Why not doing something, ie cultivate yourself, your powers will return to you if you cultivate well, that is a guarantee. Try reading the book Zhuan Falun in my signature below, you might be surprised..

I wish you good luck!


posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 03:32 AM
Basically it comes down to this.........

There is a good and a bad side (light and dark).
We, thinking caring types want the former, Bankers and consumerists want the latter.....

How do we affect change ? By embracing all spiriturally and moving to a higher level.......

I like the idea and definitly approve of the concept but how do I achieve this ?.......... I shall read the book in the 'signature' above but I can't help feeling that the power still lies in the hands of the Dark side and it will take a global catasptrophy to shift it......

It's a little bit like Star Wars, (good vs bad / light vs dark)

I think I will try and open an 'ether shop' and help everyone...



posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 05:24 AM

I shall read the book in the 'signature' above but I can't help feeling that the power still lies in the hands of the Dark side and it will take a global catasptrophy to shift it......

It is said in all prophecies that good people will make it and wicked people will be eliminated. The question is rather how many good people there will be around when it happens? I have seen alot of change in many people during the last 1-2 years, alot of people feel this thing coming and worry and try to improve a little bit "unconsciously". Still they don´t dare to talk about it....

If you read that book Zhuan Falun and emphasize virtue in daily life, whoever could eliminate you? The dark side will be eliminated and stands no chance, they only want to bring as many down with them as possible.

As I see it the dark forces persecute the world´s people by pushing their dark messages of fame, gain, ego, comfort etc etc into people´s minds with the television and news, making people forget the true meaning of life.

Just my understanding at my current wisdom level, no truth offered whatsoever.


posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 06:26 AM
Maybe Im foolish but I had a daydream where I was imagining if every person in the whole world held hands. Kind of like a huge human chain link around the earth. I really think we could think ourselves to some higher stage of evolution. I never looked into the info from the studies, but havnt there been a few hinting towards the possibility of changing matter with our thoughts? Then on that note, imagine how much negativity is flowing through this earth.

posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 06:18 PM
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thanks friend
thinking of practicing falun gong prior to reading this reminder, certainly will now
great for sharing this information as the unseen becomes felt, before revealling
enjoy the thread: Falun Dafa and Human Rights

Zhen Shan Ren
Truthfulness Benevolence Forebarence

Six Thousand Falun Gong Practitioners form Giant Golden Lotus Flower


posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 06:26 PM
reply to post by iversusvsversusi

absolutely friend

thanks for sharing

our human potential is so unmeasured
even with the little that is understood
we have great potential

for humans to embrace and encircle the planet
the energy would touch more than the lives of all other humans
it will touch all life on and in the planet and touch the life of the planet
and as we touch gaia with our essence, so she touches the sun

full circle ∞
Living from the Heart pg 29


posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 06:32 PM
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posted on Feb, 16 2011 @ 07:53 PM
I have come across a lot of crazy stories about 2012 and just put down as the next day that people can look forward to having all their problems solved and end up disappointed or relived depending on their point of view. Your explanation of it does come across as more reasonable in explanation if there is something to it. The world is a pretty crazy place that could go belly up at any time, there is some resistance to this but anything is possible. With the blind acceptance too so many significant unresolved issues it does make you wonder if we can make it that far. Something will, but it is a matter of how much and can the damage be reversed or at least resolved. There are some positive moves and signs happening around the place, but a lot, lot more is needed to start to turn things around. It will be interesting, take care.

posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 12:25 AM
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as your signature illustrates, the timeless creed 'yes we can!'
so too, we can make it beyond 2012 point
whether it is eventful or non
it is less about what may happen, and more about what is
change opportunity
we choose to shine our soul light in all circumstances
we will be the change we wish to see



posted on Feb, 17 2011 @ 02:16 AM
Thanks for putting this up.

I really feel something is going to happen, and have felt this for about two years and it's the reason I come to forums like this.

I try to be as tolerant to every different kind of person as possible but a lot of people either don't want to be or seem unable to be so, they seem to be sort of stuck and I think if there is a transition of any kind they will find it very difficult. They seem to live in black and white, wheras I seem to be more in the grey area and going with the flow (this sounds nutty!).

Our family is still pretty reliant on modern gizmos and gadgets, and I think a lot of younger people are going to find it hard as a lot of past skills have been lost. I'd like to think that a few of the small skills I have will be of good use.

Then again, if nothing happens it's still worth trying to be tolerant and "at one" with the earth.

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