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Ron Paul: ‘Government is in the process of failing’

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posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 11:21 AM
looks like the Dr. is worming up for next election

but if he wants to win , it's going to be on the elites dead body , and I hope he does.

posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 11:29 AM
reply to post by ziggy1706

.....People voted against the bailout of the banks, and the government merley worked around it to get our money. Enough wasnt done...they shoulda resorted to protesting with some violence at least, without hurting anyone..aka looting and nearly destroying the banks involved, destorying surrounds of washington DC, perticulalry around the white house and congress for starters.that woulda DEF gotten attetnion and expressed outrage......

Why the HECK do you think the ELITE have the blasted Patriot Act???? This is what they WANT us to do !

LOOK at the "laws" that will go in effect if people were to do as you say.

North American Military Agreement Signed by the U.S. and Canada
....the United States and Canada entered into a military agreement on February 14, 2008, allowing the armed forces from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a domestic civil emergency...

"Military Civil Support": The Role of US Northern Command: see
Is Posse Comitatus Dead? US Troops on US Streets

In case you are not aware of EXACTLY what this would look like:
E.O from Clinton combined everything under one Executive Order:

Take special note of :
* EO 11051: Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of economic or financial crisis (FEMA will be in control incase of 'National Emergency').

Assignment of Emergency Preparedness Functions, October 11, 2004

The following EOs all fall under EO 12919: [8]

* EO 10990: "allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports." [9]
* EO 10995: Federal seizure of all communications media in the US.
* EO 10997: Federal seizure of all electric power, fuels, minerals, public and private.
* EO 10998: Federal seizure of all food supplies and resources, public and private and all farms and equipment.
* EO 10999: Federal seizure of all means of transportation, including cars, trucks, or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports and water ways.
* EO 11000: Federal seizure of American people for work forces under federal supervision, including the splitting up of families if the government so desires.
* EO 11001: Federal seizure of all health, education and welfare facilities, both public and private.
* EO 11002: Empowers the Postmaster General to register every single person in the US.
* EO 11003: Federal seizure of all airports and aircraft.
* EO 11004: Federal seizure of all housing and finances and authority to establish forced relocation. Authority to designate areas to be abandoned as 'unsafe,' establish new locations for populations, relocate communities, build new housing with public funds.
* EO 11005: Seizure of all railroads, inland waterways and storage facilities, both public and private.
* EO 11051: Provides FEMA complete authorization to put above orders into effect in times of increased international tension of economic or financial crisis (FEMA will be in control incase of 'National Emergency').


* FM 3-19.40 (formerly FM 19-40). Military Police Internment/Resettlement Operations, Headquarters, Department of the Army, August 1, 2001. Includes sections on "Protection of Captives and Detainees" and "Protection of Enemy Prisoners of War and Civilian Internees" as they pertain to a military operation. Another copy posted on Global Security website.

* "Declaration of National Emergency by Reason Of Certain Terrorist Attacks," By the President of the United States of America, September 14, 2001: "This proclamation is not intended to create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law by a party against the United States, its agencies, its officers, or any person."

* Army Regulation 210–35. Installations. Civilian Inmate Labor Program, Headquarters, Department of the Army, Washington, DC, January 14, 2005: "This regulation provides guidance for establishing and managing civilian inmate labor programs on Army installations. It provides guidance on establishing prison camps on Army installations. It addresses recordkeeping and reporting incidents related to the Civilian Inmate Labor Program and/or prison camp administration."

Also see: FEMA Executive Orders

posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 12:57 PM
reply to post by ziggy1706

Thats interesting, ron paul and the bilderburg meetings..could be coincidence..but does seem fishy. The question is..WHEN does he think its all gunna come crashing down on us? i had read march 15 this year, was a serious prediciton?

No definitely not this year. Again if you look at the laws just passed and a proposed law you can get a sort of feel for how they are going to collapse everything:

Here are the key points due to hit in 2012:
First is the Food Safety Law of 2010. The propaganda was the Tester Amendment was supposed to "Exempt" small farmers but that was a SCAM This will transfer American farmland to the FOOD AND AGRICULTURAL CARTELS: THE GLOBALIZATION OF CORPORATE CRIME: Purdue Univ. Even your home garden could be at risk from this new law.

40% of the USA is farmland. The US produces 25% of the world's grain. To give you an idea of how critical control of American Farmland is:


World food prices at fresh high, says UN - 1/5/2011

China's Wheat Basket Faces Its Worst Drought In 200 Years

Corn Prices To Soar As Chinese Imports Increase Ninefold Compared To Official Projections 2/6/2011

Mexico loses 80-100% of crops to freeze, US prices to skyrocket 2/2011

Russia, one of the biggest producers of wheat bans exports from 15 August to 31 December 2010

An American farmer's viewpoint on the laws: LET THEM EAT GRASS!

How conversion from independent to Corporate farms will effect the towns:

...Locally owned and controlled farms tend to buy their supplies and services locally, thus supporting a variety of local businesses. This phenomenon is known as the economic “multiplier” effect, estimated at approximately seven dollars per dollar earned by the locally owned farm. PEW REPORT

Small businesses provide 50% of US jobs. They are critical because the US Manufacturing base was intentionally destroyed. The new tax provision in Obamacare is a small business/economy killer!

80% of small businesses fail. Only 10% of those bankrupt, the rest quit because the money is not worth the hassle. Now the US government add even MORE hassle.

the health-reform bill’s new 1099 requirement takes effect next year. They say more small businesses will likely opt to do all-cash transactions under the table to avoid the 1099 reporting requirement, and all of its onerous provisions, which are worse than small businesses may realize....

"The [1099 provision] is particularly onerous for small businesses. who cannot afford to employ extra lawyers and accountants to comply with the new rules," Senators Ben Nelson, Maria Cantwell and Amy Klobuchar wrote.

Health-reform’s new 1099 requirement says small businesses, charities, even government entities must issue 1099 forms to all vendors from whom they purchased more than $600 worth of goods and services a year. Plus they must report to the IRS these transactions as well.

It sounds simple until you realize you have to get Name, Address and tax number BEFORE you can buy anything. These goes for any salesmen or employee who fills out expense reports. It also means ALL sales clerks of any type have to be trained to deal with the request.

THEN you have to sort all your business receipts, not only by the IRS stipulated categories (gas vs maintenance vs food) but by vendor too.

What happens if a tax number is incorrect??? Then the SHTF big time. If ONE number out of all your vendors, free lancers and contractors is incorrect, the IRS will NOT tell you who but demands you do withholding on ALL! (been their done that) Unfortunately you have already paid full price, by the time you get the IRS notification. The vendor has your money but you are now libel for 28% of that price! Good luck getting any of that money BACK!

The NEXT year, IF you are still in business, you now have to tell ALL your vendors you are withholding 28% of the purchase price. Can you see yourself going into Walmart or Home Depot or Office Max and trying to convince them to knock 28% of the cost off the price??? Heck can you see trying to get the blasted tax number in the first place! Can you see the mess of trying to figure out how much tax was withheld and how much you now owe???

AND the IRS is waiting for you to make a mistake so they can hit you with a heavy fine.

Oh and if that was not enough the Political Criminals are floating this idea around. Unfortunately once an Idea occurs to them it will eventually become law: Confiscat ion of Private Retirement Accounts: US Departments of Labor and Treasury Schedule Hearing

posted on Feb, 12 2011 @ 03:40 PM

Originally posted by volitionawareness
reply to post by BenIndaSun

but why would he want to become president, when the presidency is clearly a puppet post, and has been for decades? yes, he comes across as different than other politicians, but he is still a politician; besides, he has always been marginalized, and always will be; our vote doesn't count, and candidates always talk about what they will do, then never do it; do we want R. Paul to follow the same fate by becoming a presidential candidate?

I am convinced that Ron Paul is a role-player in the theatre of politics, designed to appease some of the dissent and give false hope; I do like the guy, but I just can't think he will matter in the end...

No, presidency is not a puppet post. It's just that system became such that nobody that isn't a puppet couldn't get elected. It's because if you don't have media coverage you don't have any chances to move forward in that system,even if you are the smartest person on the earth. And how to get into media? Well, you have to sell yourself.
That's the beauty of this "democratic"system we live in...
That's why this democracy is a lie (not just in the U.S. but everywhere in the world). Democracy could only exist in ancient Greece where people knew each other well and where anybody could hear anybody else if he wanted. They didn't need PR and campaign menagers, it was hard to deceive people (same now if you live in very small town). They didn't need any media, city hall was only media anybody needed.
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posted on Feb, 13 2011 @ 03:38 AM
reply to post by alomaha

I tend to disagree... ever since the power elite blew Kennedy's head off, every president has been a puppet; as much as I feel an intuitive trust of Ron Paul the man (based on what he says and how he votes in Congress), I have such a distrust of the political system, therefore it's hard for me to consider a guy like him being able to make any lasting difference within the current system -- unless, of course the system was torn down and rebuilt around the principles which Ron Paul stands for; I agree completely that we do not have a democracy in this country -- and thank heaven for that; I feel that R. Paul is too valuable to the PTB as a marginalized character for them to completely push him to the side, or stomp him out completely; your comments about the media are important, because the power elite know that they can always 'out-media' someone like R. Paul, which is proof in itself of the corruption of the system..

I must say however, that our votes do not count, period; if anyone in our time, becomes a viable candidate for high office, they have been pre-chosen, groomed, 'knighted', 'plucked'; it's all pre-planned, and perhaps R. Paul himself knows this, but continues to fight his fight nonetheless; or.. god forbid, he's actually part of the orchestrated theatre of politics and propaganda as it's presented to us.. thanks for your comments...

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