Does Groom Lake have any ILS localizers or frequencies?, page 1

Nellis range beacons

They have instrumentation landing, but only from the southern approach as far as I can tell. I've never heard their localizer on the scanner, just the VOR. (Without the localizer frequency, finding the glideslope is virtually impossible.) There is a spot on Mount Charleston where the localizer could be picked up. The hike is on the list.

Note that all the NDBs have gone silent, or else are turned on as needed. I'm not sure of the MCY NDB status. The Base Camp NDB was the ATIS too. It is the only NDB I ever heard with voice on it. Base Camp plays games with their VOR, that is they turn it on as needed.

reply to post by darpa999

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Wish all you want, I don't see the ILS being found in the near future. Just about every person that climbs Tikaboo brings a scanner. If the ILS was easy to detect, it would already be published. You don't think I looked for it?

Go on Google Earth and draw a vector along the runway toward the south east. The localizer will hit hills that can't be reached. The glideslope would shoot over Mt Charleston on a 3% slope.

It is possible that the localizer will have some splatter due to knife edge dispersion, but you would probably need a high gain antenna to receive it.

Hi Gariac,

Ok, fine.....

Now, one thing I would like to clear up. Does Groom have AT LEAST those visual VASIs in which there are colored WHITE if your too high on the approach and RED if you are too low on the approach?
Look below to see what i am refering to.
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In the meantime, I will try and pinpoint those visual aids on the Google Earth.
EDIT >>> Ok, I found something on the sides of runway 32...If you look closely, you will see THREE-DOTTED things on both sides....Now I dont know if these are on what I am refering to....Dont know. Just align yourself on runway 32 in Google Earth, and on the side of the runway, you will see a three dotted object, and another pair of these when you inch up a bit.

Let me know if you see these on runways 32,14 and also for runways 30 and 12....

And what type of VASIs are these because there different types...These look like on GE if there are three instead 4 lights on runway 32 and 14.

reply to post by darpa999

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You might want to look at the panorama I uploaded. I think you are seeing the arresting cables, but I'm not sure.

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