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Enlightened Contact with ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence- What is happening in Trout Lake, Washington?

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posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 02:10 AM
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The Sattva Retreat, where you can view UFO's... I picked this up off The History Channel and did some searching and found the home site for ECETI, as reflected in the title of this thread.
Have any ATS members seen this or been to the retreat? I, for one am finding it quite interesting.
Quote from site-
" There have been thousands of eyewitnesses, some of which are prominent scientists and physicists. Astro, nuclear, bio and plasma physicists have all witnessed these events. Aerospace, Air force design engineers, professional photographers and investigators from around the world have come to observe the ongoing UFO activity at the Sanctuary."

Another quote from site-
"C5 Contact with spiritually and technologically advanced extra and ultra terrestrial off world visitors which we refer to as the greater family of man has occurred at the home of James Gilliland, known as the Sattva Sanctuary. ABC, Fox News, The History Channel, Evening Magazine, and other cable channels too numerous to mention have covered the ongoing contacts at the Sanctuary. Radio shows such as Coast to Coast AM with George Noory & Art Bell, Jeff Rense and many others have all covered this incredible verifiable event."

Check out the site, Click Here

I am curious as to other members reactions and thoughts on the possibility of this being a real situation. It does appear to be a happening event.

[edit on 6-7-2004 by Journey]




posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 04:56 AM
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Let's start out with a quote from the site:

" It stands to reason that any advanced race capable of interstellar and interdimensional travel would also be very advanced in consciousness. Like advanced humans now and in our past, these off-world visitors would possess many of the gifts the Masters, Saints and Sages from all cultures used. Gifts like telepathy, prophecy, psychokinetic abilities, clairvoyancy, and other attributes that come with engaging higher consciousness and energy. "

That is absolutely untrue. The path of intellect/technology and the path of spirit/magick are usually mutually exclusive. That is why you seldom hear about geniuses being well-known for their selfless service to others. The highly intellectual are usually spiritually indifferent.

What you have here is a classic manipulation from a large Group Entity (i.e., a large collective of discarnates) that channels through and around a number of sincere, yet misled Terran mystics. They chose a UFO hotspot to make their entrance so that they could say that they are the physical aliens that pilot the UFOs that are documented there. That is a clever trick that is often used since they know that most people are not aware of the fact that consistent and intricate telepathic ability can only be manifested in and from the Spirit with The Light.

One giveaway is the lack of physical contact with incarnate aliens. Where are they? There are no physical aliens that made contact – only a collective of spirits!

The actual physical aliens that do orchestrate the many reported UFOs at Trout Lake and elsewhere, laugh at the Terran mystics who think that they are in telepathic contact with them.

Another giveaway is the two illustrations that contain yellow auric representations, obviously communicated to the mystics to illustrate the aliens. Yellow is the Dominant Aura Color (as is violet) of basically spiritual discarnates in the Mid Realms of Spirit. The deception comes into play because the people in the discarnate collective wish to be thought of as divine beings. They cannot be thought of as divine beings individually because they are not spiritually advanced enough to generate impressive telekinetic energies. So what they do is combine their relatively primitive spirits into a group consciousness in order to present an illusion that they are highly evolved.

If they were a Group Entity that consisted of millions, then you would have the "aliens" creating objects like jewelry, food, etc., and doing very impressive healings to people one at a time.

The same thing happens over at places like Medjugorie, Yugoslavia with the miracles attributed to "mother mary." No goddess is present, only a large Group Entity that is neither God Realized nor one with The Original Creator.

At Trout Lake, this deception and manipulation is being orchestrated by a Group Entity that is large enough (i.e., in the thousands) to have the energy to telekinetically burn people.

Speaking of which, what is it with them burning people? It sounds like they need a serious attitude adjustment. If I wanted to have friendly relations with someone (alien or otherwise), I certainly wouldn't burn them!

Anyone who gets anything from anyone that depicts them being surrounded by yellow, violet, red, orange or brown energy can immediately assume that it is a deception from a Group Entity in the Spirit.

The power of these Group Entities should not be underestimated but they are somewhat limited in overall telekinetic ability. When they misuse their energy, they lessen their ability to unite with The Light.

No one ever truly gets away with anything.

This is fortunate for those of us like me, who strive to expose their deception and manipulation of innocents.

I have been astrally attacked by large Group Entities for many years and have extensive experience in exposing them and in dealing with their astral and telekinetic abuse.

Hmm. Now who do we know in this forum who also claims to be in telepathic contact with alien overlords who have never made a physical entrance? That is a very similar situation. However, in that case the Group Entity who is manipulating those Terran mystics (the husband and wife team) is not large enough (i.e., not powerful enough) to manifest matter, burns or even significant healings.




[edit on 6-7-2004 by Paul_Richard]



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 06:21 AM
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A note on most of the declared "alien evidence" and "paranormal evidence" pictures on that site.

Most of them go in these categories:


- glares.
- smoke, mist, flying dirt close to the lens.
- reflections from pictures taken trough windows.
- nice cloud formations.
- bugs.
- totaly black images with a faint lightsource at a long distance, could be anything.
- breath condensation/fog during cold nights. Easely suggested by the fact the person imaged was wearing a thick winter coat.

Some of the video's definatly classify as black with some lightsource, that one video they have with the 2 or 3 dancing lights can easely be debunked as some fool playing with 2 flashlights.

There are some pictures there that have unknown flying or standing objects in them though. But mainly unknown and unidentified by the crappy quality of the images.

First thing I would do if I was living in a hotspot for UFO sightings was getting a decent camera. And preferably also some IR capable imagery equipment for nighttime photography. And this isn't expencive at all.
Actualy I converted my 50$ webcam to be 100% able to record and display IR images. At pitch black nights I can take clearly visible images at resolution 1024*768*32. For 50$ ..






[edit on 6-7-2004 by thematrix]



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 08:38 AM
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This man James Gilliland and his people are cashing in on the good people's interest and willingness to support positive alien contact between our worlds. He is claiming that the evidence of alien visitation proves that what he is claiming and doing is what people should follow. (See my thread on What exactly does evidence prove?)

James Gilliland makes numerous fundamental mistakes in his claims, which only people who know and work with alien life to an advanced degree could know the extent of, but it should only take one mistake to tip you off to his true intentions. Both his correct and incorrect descriptions of alien life come from the gathering of bits of information from many sources, none of which are the alien races who are visiting Earth. This is evident in the way his mistakes are peppered throughout his message, especially on the second page.

James Gilliland adds many popular myths to his material to appeal to a wide range of alien believers to extract their funds to build his Sanctuary, but nobody who knows the aliens will be following or supporting this man or his organization, especially not the aliens.

The alien races are making individual contacts and staging sightings of crafts all over our world and they will continue to increase these steadily. First open contact between our world and the organization of our visiting races is going to be done on a professional level with a nation and will include all its people. The great world debut is not going to be with one man or an alien organization or a sanctuary or belief system.

Unfortunately, many people will fall for this because that is what people do, they fall for things. It is very sad to see, but the fact is that right now, at the point we humans are at in our understanding of other life, whenever the aliens give us evidence of themselves, it can be turned around and used to prove anything that any devious people want it to prove.

Don't think that just because this man's message is full of love and light that it is all right for him to do this. Because when the people find out that they have been tricked again, it will only take them further from the truth they are seeking. As individual alien beings are trying to open communications with their individual human contacts, all of these false beliefs get in the way of understanding.

[edit on 6-7-2004 by EarthSister]



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 10:17 AM
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aliens visiting us? c'mon...
there is absolutely no evidence, no proof, not even a single ufo has ever been caught on a Cam from a professional television network....

as for those who claims there were abducted, its the same pattern as those who are viewing ghosts and revenants


until an alien craft land on a public place...and aliens step out to greet us in a friendly or unfriendly manner, all aliens stories will remain what they are...stories!



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Conan The Usurper
aliens visiting us? c'mon...


Obviously you have not witnessed or experienced anything alien yet, and that fact is the poor base for your assumption that others have not either.

You need to do some homework and research before you can have an educated opinion.



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 11:08 AM
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do i really need to reply anything?!?

hmm well, let me see, i think they should not grant access to internet to those in mentally ill hospitals



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 11:55 AM
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Conan The Usurper:

I guess that explains the entire scope of your position on the entire subject. Don't you want to learn anything?



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 12:44 PM
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Conan, if you are so convinced that there are no aliens, then why bother even checking out this forum?


aliens visiting us? c'mon...
there is absolutely no evidence, no proof, not even a single ufo has ever been caught on a Cam from a professional television network....


Not true, there are many cases where UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) have been captured, even featured in TV news stories. Many of which remain unidentified. Just because they haven't been identified as alien craft, doesn't mean you can dismiss them all. They HAVE captured images of unidentified craft, so your basic arguement is untrue...


as for those who claims there were abducted, its the same pattern as those who are viewing ghosts and revenants


So all of those phenomenon are equally discredited as well? Do the research, such instances have been well documented for centuries. Better yet, visit some of the most haunted places on Earth, and THEN see if you still feel this way.


until an alien craft land on a public place...and aliens step out to greet us in a friendly or unfriendly manner, all aliens stories will remain what they are...stories!


Same arguement, until God comes down and says "Hi" to all of us, he'll remain just a story.... Yet billions believe in such dieties? Unlike religions, there's more to go with aliens than mere stories. There are eyewitness testimonies from high-ranking military officers and scientists (even former presidents and astronauts), gun camera footage of UFOs, reams of government documents on the subject, etc. Yet you laugh in the face of it all? Interesting.... I'm not saying you should believe everything you hear...heck, 80% or more of the stuff in the UFO community is total BS most likely...but that doesn't automatically make the remaining 20% untrue either.



posted on Jul, 6 2004 @ 05:04 PM
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Gazrok, youre are correct, my mistake i should not have posted anything...
after all, any weirdos have the right to believe what they want.

the main reason i checked out the posts is, i was wondering if actually they were people still believing in those aliens crap. i guess i found my answers



posted on Jul, 7 2004 @ 01:37 AM
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Originally posted by Conan The Usurper
Gazrok, youre are correct, my mistake i should not have posted anything...
after all, any weirdos have the right to believe what they want.

the main reason i checked out the posts is, i was wondering if actually they were people still believing in those aliens crap. i guess i found my answers


Who are you? The disinformation specialist? You can do better than that! Some people will believe anything, say like what their favorite politician tells them- but will deny the possibilities when confronted with an unknown. I am not saying that I personally believe this James Gilliand is in contact with aliens, either.
They are playing with something there, however. Paul_Richard, your reply is very intriguing!
Seems to me that something is there if The History Channel profiled it, along with many others. The area obviously has the interest of many people. So it would be logical to assume that they are seeing something. The question is- What?




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