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THESE STAND ON THE ROCK

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posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 04:27 PM
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This thread is for the Christian who see and know He, Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Life.

The Jews had asked Him, “Who art Thou”, as He had stated “I Am He” and they knew what He meant when saying that, as they knew of the following and here He is they see only a man claiming to be God.

Is. 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

It was Christ who made the above statement before Bethlehem. Is. 43:14 Reveals it is the Redeemer speaking Also Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. ( Name before Bethlehem, “LORD of hosts; -LORD above is “Yahweh” in both names, LORD is the title as it was feared to use His name )
Are you His witness that He is God?

He just repeated it then to them.

Joh 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Joh 8:25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.

“Ye shall die in your sins!” if you believe not that I am He! That is a wake up call! Yes Who Art Thou? We better know for sure. Listen to this statement.

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Joh 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one. ( He was telling them they are of one substance )
Joh 10:31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

A mere man claiming to be God is what they thought. Read more - ,

Joh 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

This is the reason a Christian can not be a part of herding together in a one world fellowship. Some others recognize Christ but not as “The True God with us”, and yes He is with us now as the Comforter.
We see and know He is the only “Way” the “Truth” and the “life”. There is no other way period. Do you not believe Him?

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

( Please read also verses 7- 10 also, they are significant )

The reason that He had to be God was that only the blood of God could suffice for the redemption of sin. God the Father not only gave His only begotten Son but He gave of Himself. 2 Cor. 5:19 states “God ( Father ) was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself”. The Father vested Himself into our Redeemer before anything came about and as you’ve read above, it was the Redeemer who did all the creation.

Heb 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: ( for the suffering of death and that His blood could be shed )
Ac 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

These verses from 1 Co 15 brings out the completion of the plan of redemption laid before anything.

1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. ( Reigning now as God )
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all. ( Finally the Father is all in all again! )

This solidifies the fact they ARE ONE! It appears the Deity vested in Him is Returned and then Jesus will take the place of being our King and the Prince of the Father. He, Jesus created us and then Redeemed us and so we are His twice, 1. Creation, 2. Redemption.

The above should establish He is the ONLY WAY. Now what is Truth? Do you stand on the Rock? Is man’s science a solid foundation? What’s the so called facts based on? Where did it all come from? Life and especially intelligent life and the languages. The complexity of one beautiful flower even and the great number of them is unfathomable to even come close to being a truth that it all evolved is utter nonsense. Think of many examples yourself and realize it is ludicrous to believe such a thing.

All true wisdom and understanding comes from Him, His Word to us is the foundation, the Rock to stand on.
He tells us -

Joh 17:17 ¶ Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

He not only gave life to all angels and man but proved He was the Life He claimed.

Joh 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
Mt 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

Yes True Christianity you should see can not be mixed with other beliefs. That would be apostasy. The herding together that is taking place we can not be a part of. We have an eye “single”, means full of light. Yes we will be stand outs and seemingly alone as the further apostasies come in more all the time and many falling away to please the world. The great falling away is in full sway. Know this,-

2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

It don’t sound like it is a desirable day, but is hasting 2 Pet. 3:12
Am 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
the day of the Lord is. Isa 5:30; 9:19; 24:11-12; Jer 30:7; Joe 1:15; 2:1-2,10,31; Zep 1:14-15; Mal 4:1; 2Pe 3:10

Know these things and know peace, there are those who don’t and will not.

Ro 3:16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
Ro 3:17 And the way of peace have they not known:

Truthiron.




posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 08:08 PM
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Good job . Keep up the work!



posted on Dec, 20 2010 @ 08:05 AM
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Addendum by Truthiron

An eye single to the light of the One and only Way that God ever made for Salvation to all men that have ever lived is a must. Adam and all since knew of the Divine Blood that was to be shed, take your mind back to Cain and Abel, the lambs blood of Abel’s pointed to the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Gen. 4:4 The Jews sacrificed a lamb morning and evening, the blood pointing to the True Lamb that only could suffice. There is no deviation, or one will hear the words “I never knew you”. Men want a way of their own and that will never be, know it now!

Men want to be saved in adultery and infractions of His law of Love in every way imaginable and want to call it light. They then hate the light of the Only Way given and call it darkness.

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

I repeat and want to emphasize it, that Our Saviour was manifest in the Flesh the one and only True God with us at that time He walked on earth and now by His Spirit, The Comforter. He too one with the Father can in Truth proclaim, - KJV --

Re 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

What Jesus, Yahshua do you worship, is He God?



posted on Dec, 28 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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reply to post by truthiron
Jesus said that Abraham saw his day and rejoiced. Jesus saw my day and accepted. There doesn't seem to be any worship involved.



posted on Dec, 29 2010 @ 09:24 AM
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Originally posted by pthena
reply to post by truthiron
Jesus said that Abraham saw his day and rejoiced. Jesus saw my day and accepted. There doesn't seem to be any worship involved.


I don't think there is any doubt all worshipped God that weren't in rebellion, go back to Cain and Abel and the accounts are many, they did it different before we as now we worship in Spirit.

Ge 22:3 ¶ And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and saddled his ass, and took two of his young men with him, and Isaac his son, and clave the wood for the burnt offering, and rose up, and went unto the place of which God had told him.
Ge 22:4 Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off.
Ge 22:5 And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.
Ge 22:6 And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son; and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife; and they went both of them together.
Ge 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?

Men worship some one that is for sure, some themselves, but you know it is only right and natural the created worship His Creator. Especially when that Creator has made you free. He has made Himself a servant to us.

Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

We don't want to be a servant of sin, to do so would be in worship actually of Satan. Obedience is worship is it not.
Angels in Heaven worship Him too.

The best to you and have peace.

Truthiron.



posted on Jan, 3 2011 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by pthena
reply to post by truthiron
Jesus said that Abraham saw his day and rejoiced. Jesus saw my day and accepted. There doesn't seem to be any worship involved.



It is wonderful to see and know of His foreknowledge and great Love. I think Praise is a form of worship and I'm not bashful, I praise His Holy and Wonderful Name. I am one of the following.- -

Ro 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

I am His twice, 1. by creation, 2. by redemption.

I think they, the true and faithful unabashedly worshiped God from the beginning.- -

Ge 22:5 And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you.

This is the first time "worship" is used in the KJV.

Thanks.

Truthiron.



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