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Israel says: Sorry Turkey for not shooting in advance

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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:18 PM
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Israel says: Sorry Turkey for not shooting in advance


www.israelnationalnews.com

Parliamentarian Sends 'Apology' to Turkey

by Maayana Miskin

In wake of renewed Turkish demands that Israel apologize for the deaths of nine pro-terror activists killed in a maritime clash with the IDF, MK Danny Danon of Likud offered his own “apology” in a letter he read aloud in the Knesset Tuesday.

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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:18 PM
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During the Carmel fires in Israel, Turkey also gave a helping hand and it seems that relations between the 2 countries could stabilize. Turkey told Israel immediatly that it was out of the question as long there was no formal excuse about the Marmara/Gaza convoy incident and that Israel would give compensation to the families of the deceased.

Both requests were denied by premier Benyamin Netanyahu. Danny Danon explained that by giving compensation would be like surrendering to terrorisme and give future terrorists more motivation.

Well the letter has been send to Turkey after all but I don't think Turkey was waiting for this answer.

Israel is naming Turkey in that letter a terrorist and practically announces they had to shoot as soon as they saw the convoy approaching.

Is Israel now trying to get Turkey angry or what?
Turkey allready mentioned before they won't tolerate any agressions from Israel anymore.



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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:31 PM
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Wow. After refusing permits to the Palestinian firefighters who were supposed to attend a ceremony in Israel, Israel now spits in the eye of another country which helped during the fires.

This letter of 'apology' is a letter of insult. Just when I thought it couldn't, the Israeli government has sunk to a new low. After the sewer, what's the next level down, I wonder, because that's where they are.



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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 03:58 PM
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I know a few Israeli people and they are nice, just like normal people......but their governments are just the opposite, they are in trouble with everybody around them..........why do they act like this, only they know.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 04:08 PM
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With your permission, one more apology is necessary, for Israel's decision to release the dangerous terror supporters who were on the ship and not put them on trial for attempted murder, and even to pay for their tickets home.

And finally, please accept our full and heartfelt apology, for not asking the United Nations to censure Turkey, and for not demanding an investigation into the connection between the IHH terrorist organization, your party and you, Mr. Erdogan. www.israelnationalnews.com...

Quite right - though Israel made a big mistake treating these people as 'peacefull activivsts' - they should have disabled the ship and left it drifting in international waters.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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LOL awesome... Spot on in all areas. Israel did offer compensation to the Turkish Government as well as 100k to each of the familes of the 9 killed.

Turkey was demanding an appology, and if I remeber right, Israel was using the term misunderstanding or something liek that. Many people in these forums were expressing opinions that Turkey should reject the offer, which also requested a return to full diplomatic status by sending ambassadors back to each others countries.
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posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by JohhnyBGood
With your permission, one more apology is necessary, for Israel's decision to release the dangerous terror supporters who were on the ship and not put them on trial for attempted murder, and even to pay for their tickets home.

And finally, please accept our full and heartfelt apology, for not asking the United Nations to censure Turkey, and for not demanding an investigation into the connection between the IHH terrorist organization, your party and you, Mr. Erdogan. www.israelnationalnews.com...

Quite right - though Israel made a big mistake treating these people as 'peacefull activivsts' - they should have disabled the ship and left it drifting in international waters.



The floatilla met criteria under international law for the IDf Navy to send the ships to the bottom of the med the moment they announced their destination. They were also given the opprotunity to divert to an Israeli port so there cargo could be inspected and sent by ground to Gaza.

The vessels in the Floatilla could not have gotten to Gaza, since the port is not large or deep enouh for the ship to dock.

If the people in the floatilla were truely concerned, they would have made sure the cargo got there, regardless of delivery method. There are also articles from turky who interviewed some of the people on board, and they admitted they wwere looking for a fight with Israel in order to use the bad publicity to push their agends.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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That apology letter was absolutely right on. Good for him. That ship acted just like Rachel Corrie, the woman who stepped in front of an IDF bulldozer and thought it would actually stop. She earned a well deserved Darwin Award for that stunt. I'm still angry at Israel over the USS Liberty, but next time some fools want to pretend to send "aid" to hamas, they should sink the ship outright.



posted on Dec, 15 2010 @ 04:24 PM
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Besides this akward and insulting letter towards Turkey, Turkey is trying to get rid of some of his generals who are in favor of Israel to replace them with others who are against Israel.


A COUP IN TURKEY BEFORE ANY ATTACK ON IRAN?

Turkey’s government is friendly with Iran and has fallen out with Israel. On 1 August 2010, Turkey’s Supreme Military Council held the second day of its annual meeting to discuss promotions and dismissals of officers in the armed forces. And, this Turkish Military Council seeks the promotion of coup suspects The military wants to promote 11 generals who have been charged with plotting to bring down the government. Reportedly, Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has called for a cancellation of the promotions for the 11 generals. But he lacks the power to cancel appointments wanted by the generals. Abdullah Gul, the president, does have that power because Military Council decisions become law only after being signed by the president. In the past, no president has dared veto the military’s plans. Reportedly, Gul has asked the military not to go ahead with the promotions, hinting that he would not sign the Yas documents if the 11 generals were promoted. A Turkish court recently issued arrest warrants for the 11 generals and 91 other serving and retired officers, with dozens of generals among them. They are to stand trial in December 2010 for their suspected participation in a plan, code-named Sledgehammer. Allegedly, Sledgehammer was hatched in 2003 and called for a coup against the government of Mr Erdogan. According to the prosecution, the plotters planned to bomb a mosque in Istanbul and to provoke tensions with Greece in an effort to cause unrest and prepare the ground for a military coup. Only one of the 102 suspects has been arrested so far. The others have appealed against their arrest warrants. Some officers, including retired high-ranking generals, are standing trial as suspected members of Ergenekon, a fascist group with links to the CIA and Mossad. Constitutional amendments designed to curb the generals’ political influence will be put to a referendum in September 2010. The government is struggling to deal with a fresh wave of attacks by Kurdish rebels, who are said to be backed by Ergenekon, the CIA and Mossad.

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posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 02:53 AM
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'Israel won't apologize for Gaza flotilla raid'Deputy FM tells the Knesset that Israel won't apologize for Gaza flotilla raid, despite recent reports of Israel-Turkey talks aimed at ending the diplomatic crisis between the two nations.By Jonathan Lis Tags: Gaza flotilla Turkey Avigdor Lieberman Yisrael Beiteinu

Israel has no intention of apologizing to the Turkish government for the Israel Defense Forces raid on Gaza-bound aid flotilla in May that left nine Turkish citizens dead, Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon told the Knesset on Wednesday.

Ayalon, a member of Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's Yisrael Beiteinu party, came in the wake of recent reports that Israel and Turkey have been in negotiations to end the diplomatic crisis between the two countries.

This week it was reported that the negotiations have become deadlocked. The reports of a possible Israeli apology for the IDF raid, as well as Israeli compensation for the families of the dead Turks, aroused sharp criticism aroused sharp criticism from Lieberman and others within Yisrael Beiteinu.

"An apology to Turkey is giving into terrorism," said associates of Lieberman.

Lieberman associates argued that it is Turkey who should apologize to Israel for the Gaza flotilla incident.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 03:12 AM
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There's nothing Turkey can do without shooting it self in the foot.
All it's military equipment is European and American.
Even the stuff they build them selves, is sourced from the West.
They go against Israel, they go against the West.

Israel trying to anger Turkey? Perhaps it's more like some in Israel finally having had enough of Turkeys rhetoric.



posted on Dec, 16 2010 @ 04:40 AM
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Originally posted by Xcathdra
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LOL awesome... Spot on in all areas. Israel did offer compensation to the Turkish Government as well as 100k to each of the familes of the 9 killed.


Yes, money solves everything


All that does is allow Israel to believe that it can kill any national they want in the future, as long as they pay a few grand for it (considering they get $3billion a year just in "military aid" from the US, lives to the Zionists are worth chump change).


The floatilla met criteria under international law for the IDf Navy to send the ships to the bottom of the med the moment they announced their destination.


For one, the IDF assaulted the floatilla in international waters.

Secondly, does this also mean that Iran has the right to attack American ships if they announce that they will patrol the Persian Gulf?



That apology letter was absolutely right on. Good for him. That ship acted just like Rachel Corrie, the woman who stepped in front of an IDF bulldozer and thought it would actually stop. She earned a well deserved Darwin Award for that stunt.


The bulldozer operator knew she was there. He was looking straight at her as he ran her over, stopped, and reversed over her body.

She was an American who finished university and decided against being a drone worker in the US and believed in the Palestinian right to live. She went, as part of an international peace movement, to Israel. She was protesting Israeli actions in destroying Palestinian homes in order to expand Israeli settlements (which is illegal and immoral). The IDF viewed her as a "terrorist sympathizer" and that was enough justification for them to run her over with an American-built caterpillar.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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Subsequently, an Israeli military investigation (never published) cleared the driver, and no charges were filed in the incident. As a last resort, the Corrie family has brought a civil case against the state of Israel in Israeli court. But he'll do so anonymously, from behind a screen to protect his identity, which Corrie's family finds disappointing. The Israeli investigation -- or whitewash, according to critics of the proceedings -- concluded that the driver didn't see Corrie. But fellow activists who witnessed the death said the driver's view was unobstructed and pointed out that Corrie was wearing a bright orange jacket.

As you might guessed the bulldozer driver won't be charged of murder.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 03:49 PM
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What part of them running a blockade and attacking the commandos don't people understand?

Its easy to place all the blame on Israel and to claim they were "peaceful" protesters (who were attacking commandos with axe handles and knives, one of which stole a hand gun and began to fire upon them) the fact of the matter is, Israel isn't at fault and they shouldn't be forced to apologize for any of it.

Don't want to die? don't run a blockade and attack the commandos boarding your ship.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 06:16 PM
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Let's not fool ourselves. The Turkish firefighting planes did not douse the flames that continue to scorch Turkish-Israeli relations. Even if a formula is found that would satisfy Turkey's demand for both an apology from Israel and compensation for casualties of the Gaza flotilla incident, we will still be facing Turkish policy that is fundamentally problematic.

Turkey today is not the same Turkey we once knew. The country has experienced a major internal change, reflected in its foreign policy: From being a state loyal to NATO and a close friend of Israel's, Turkey has transformed into a country that follows an independent policy line - to the point of defying Western interests, flirting with radical forces and displaying hostility toward Israel.



posted on Dec, 17 2010 @ 08:28 PM
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Both requests were denied by premier Benyamin Netanyahu. Danny Danon explained that by giving compensation would be like surrendering to terrorism and give future terrorists more motivation.


No... Just because you value possession so much you would kill for it does not mean every one would...
Some times it's when people at the top say things like "We won't give you compensation, because than it would set a trend or something." Seriously? It's when people don't listen. When people don't force them selves to witness. It's when people ignore the obvious. It's when people accept the unacceptable.

That my friends, is what really, really motivates people to do acts of terrorism.

Why don't you train your troops to not jump to the trigger so fast...
I mean we had a bunch of people show up on our door step not to long ago. A bunch of TAMILS a known and considered terrorist organization by the federal Gov't of Canada.
They showed up with 500 people. They could have all had suicide bombs or something...
Hmm did anyone die on that occasion?
Nope. It was guided to a Naval base.
We helped those people, help themselves. I don't get why Israel couldn't have boarded and just checked the ships and see that they were cleared then bring the items right up to the shore and distribute them with the people.
I guess I'm just a dreamer.Source. Tamils.
It's okay, you can call me an anti-Semite. Pretty sure I'm already on the "red" list.



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 01:36 PM
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You aren't a dreamer, after the referendum in Turkey were many people opposed too, the Turkisch government gave with this referendum a go ahead for changes in the government. The referendum meant for muslims more power in Turkisch government. Shortly after this the Turks stated that Israel was a threat to her surrounding countries. They also have a alliance with Iran. Also has Turkey stated that every agressive act of Israel will be retaliated by Turkey.

Israel is playing with fire so to speak.



posted on Dec, 18 2010 @ 02:23 PM
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Turkey is just insane here.

Turkey is engaged in a cultural/linguistic (and military) war against its large Kurdish minority population big style murdering tens of thousands .

Turkey gives the Germans a run for their money when practising Genocide. I saw the details while in Jerusalem's Armenian Quarter of the plans and camps and transports during Turkeys attempts to rid itself of its Armenian population. Absolutely sick and they killed them by the million just like the Nazis

Now the (same) regime acts like annoyed because some of its citizens tried to enter a foreign zone when they knew they were taking the piss and aiming at entering a closed military zone

Turkey was known as 'The Sick Man of Europe'

What changes?



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 07:54 AM
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Both Israel and turkey are insane.

Another aid shipment is sent and I am wondering if Israel will attack this one too.


The Asia solidarity convoy heading to the Gaza Strip to deliver humanitarian supplies arrived in in Turkey on Friday after it left Iran on its way to deliver humanitarian supplies to the besieged coastal region. Thousands greeted the activists and chanted in support of Palestine.

Representative of the Turkish Relief Society (IHH), Salah Ed Deen Auzer, stated in a press release issued by convoy that the convoy, organized by Asian countries, will be heading to Gaza to break the illegal Israeli siege to deliver humanitarian supplies.

He thanked the participants and all individuals and groups that donated to the campaign.

“We want an end to injustice practices by the Zionists”, he stated, “All illegal practices must end, solidarity ships will not stop until the siege in lifted”.

The IHH will be sending, on Saturday morning, a solidarity convoy carrying more than 150 members from 22 countries around the world.

The Asian Convoy left Delhi on December 2nd passing through Pakistan and Iran, and is expected to pass through Syria on its way to Al Arish Egyptian Port before heading to Gaza on December 27 as convoy members plan to enter Gaza on the eve of second anniversary of the war on Gaza.

1419 Palestinians, most of them civilians, including children and elderly, were killed during the war and approximately 4000 were wounded. The army bombarded homes, medical facilities, education facilities, UNRWA facilities and schools.



posted on Dec, 19 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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Turkey is engaged in a cultural/linguistic (and military) war against its large Kurdish minority population big style murdering tens of thousands .


Bullcrap lies, Erdogan is on a peace mission with the Kurds. The Kurdish population is growing in Turkey and what you just stated is a thing of the past, time to move on ufodude.


Turkey gives the Germans a run for their money when practising Genocide. I saw the details while in Jerusalem's Armenian Quarter of the plans and camps and transports during Turkeys attempts to rid itself of its Armenian population. Absolutely sick and they killed them by the million just like the Nazis


You don't even understand what you did there...you compared Turkey of now to Germany of the past. Why don't you compare the past to the past when it comes to things like this. Neither Germany nor Turkey is in the proces of genocide. That doesn't make the crimes against so many people any less disgusting.


Now the (same) regime acts like annoyed because some of its citizens tried to enter a foreign zone when they knew they were taking the piss and aiming at entering a closed military zone


Same? Beyond that, way to apologize for Israel. You just compared the Turks to Nazis and you critisize a humanitarian mission. Closed military zone? Excuses, excuses. Now, kindly go back to the ufo forum where your opinion is looked upon as more factual. Bye.



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