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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by shakennotstirred
I can see how that can be effective, but let's be honest here. Do you think that we could muster enough support for this considering the massive amounts of established media and powerful people against Wikileaks? We are up against a monster of sorts. It wold be very hard to overcome that obstacle. Not impossible though.
Originally posted by davespanners
I'm surprised the thread didn't get taken down as it's directly against the T&C's to post that kind of thing.
15e.) Recruitment/Solicitation: i) You will not use your membership in the Websites for any type of recruitment to any causes whatsoever. You will not Post, use the chat feature, use videos, or use the private message system to disseminate advertisements, chain letters, petitions, pyramid schemes, or any kind of solicitation for political action, social action, letter campaigns, or related online and/or offline coordinated actions of any kind.
I'm not sure why it is, but it isedit on 15-12-2010 by davespanners because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DevilJin
reply to post by wcitizen
If Wikileaks were to stop being the center of attention - would the crowd that so upheld the principle Wikileaks personified - free speech - still continue what Wikileaks started? NO!!!! Maybe small websites here and there but the whole of the population will find something new to believe in. THAT is my point - I think we are being led to believe in Wikileaks. News sources would move on to something else. No one would scrutinize the media for its possible political bias, censoring, or neglect of stories the world NEEDS to hear. It is not "easier to sit on the fence" because all I ask is for facts. For YOU, it is easier to run with Wikileaks as is it is easier for people to deny Wikileaks as genuine. You chose one side and ran with it and your opposition has done the same. There is no middle ground which is EXACTLY how people are divided in many debates. No one is going on facts. They are going on belief, propaganda, opinions, and what's trendy.
Today Wikileaks, tomorrow Israel is ready to strike Iran's nuclear facilities.
Originally posted by shakennotstirred
reply to post by wcitizen
I hadn't thought about it that way before, but it makes sense.
I for one am raising the volume of my dissatisfaction with the way things are going and conspiracy theories have definitely played a part in that.
However I understand the belief that we as individuals are small and TPTB are big and powerful but in reality that is an illusion. It takes one person to have an idea and if that idea is allowed to grow in the minds of other people and spread then it can change the world. I am not sure I expressed my sentiment brilliantly so I'll quote from Inception
What is the most resilient parasite? Bacteria? A virus? An intestinal worm? An idea. Resilient... highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it's almost impossible to eradicate. An idea that is fully formed - fully understood - that sticks; right in there somewhere.
Originally posted by christina-66
Originally posted by davespanners
I'm surprised the thread didn't get taken down as it's directly against the T&C's to post that kind of thing.
15e.) Recruitment/Solicitation: i) You will not use your membership in the Websites for any type of recruitment to any causes whatsoever. You will not Post, use the chat feature, use videos, or use the private message system to disseminate advertisements, chain letters, petitions, pyramid schemes, or any kind of solicitation for political action, social action, letter campaigns, or related online and/or offline coordinated actions of any kind.
I'm not sure why it is, but it isedit on 15-12-2010 by davespanners because: (no reason given)
Please please explain to me how this thread is breaking ATS rules? To what cause am I attempting to recruit people ? What ads I'm I posting? This thread is about people who 'walk the walk' but when asked to even the simplest of things in support of that talk they will not 'walk the walk'.
It is about peoples' irrational fear of being heard or of being seen....not a particular cause.
Originally posted by ABNARTY
reply to post by christina-66
I can feel the frustration OP. I am not sure if courage versus cowardice is the lynch pin here. Perhaps consider a different idea. The problem is the enemy is fighting asymmetrically. The reigns of control have been cut from those the Constitution put them with. Petitions, demonstrations, contacting politicians, voting, etc have all been successfully countered. All those means are based on the false premise TPTB are concerned about the public's opinion. No matter how hard we work those actions, there will be no direction change.
So how do we right our current course? We have to determine what muscles the wheel now-a-days and attack there. Look at the leverage of BP, AIPAC, or the banking industry. They get it done in quick order. You and I may never be able to muster the financial where-with-all to out leverage them but we may not have to. We do however, have to understand how that money gets in and produces action. Once we know that, then that is the infrastructure one seeks to dissect, analyze, and target. This is not violent or advocates something unlawful. If you shoot the Congressman or the banker, there will only be another to fill the lucrative void.
I wish I was an expert and it was easy. I have ideas like everybody but that is for another thread.