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How I believe we can annex Mexico in the U.S.

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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 06:47 PM
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Let's see if we can learn something here. I know Canada will never become apart of the United States. Still there is a flood of Mexican immigrants coming into the U.S. Why? The immigrations laws, cheap labor, and above all the Drug War in Mexico. The U.S is one of the most populace countries on the planet as I type this and Mexico is right up there. How can we deal with this subject? I believe I know the answer and I would like to propose the answer the best way I can for both Americans and Mexicans. I believe following One country, Two systems will ease the flow of people going into the newly formed country and still allow Mexicans to have their own area.

"One country, two systems" is an idea originally proposed by Deng Xiaoping, then Paramount Leader of the People's Republic of China (PRC), for the reunification of China during the early 1980s. He suggested that there would be only one China, but areas such as Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan could have their own capitalist economic and political systems, while the rest of China uses the socialist system. Under the suggestion, Taiwan could continue to have its own political system, legal, military, economic and financial affairs, including commercial and cultural agreements with foreign countries, and would enjoy "certain rights" in foreign affairs.

Look at this snippet and then apply it to the U.S, Mexico, and the other territories of the United States.
I believe this is the best for the people and would create peace!




posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 06:54 PM
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Try telling Taiwanese people that they and China are one country.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 06:59 PM
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Ask the United States to ask them. I'm to busy with Mexico at the moment.
Taiwan is under the Republic of China government.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:01 PM
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If Mexico didn't have a capitalist economy they wouldn't need to come to the US.

They have the same economic system we do and the country is very wealthy, but the wealth stays at the top and the workers are paid next to nothing. The wealth is more unfairly distributed than it is in the US.

They need a labour movement, like you had in the US to better your working conditions, if you hadn't you would all be running to Canada now.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:03 PM
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I agree with that statement! That is one of the many reasons I support the EZLN and the views of the group.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:03 PM
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the problem with this is that it was designed for distinct regional areas, not distinct ethnic groups spread fairly evenly through out most of the country(ies) considering such a policy. If employed, the results would be little different than the current one, Mexico would still have it's problems to solve and the 48 states would still have a huge group of Mexican citizens that contribute little to the US, add to the crime and disease issues, and draw a lot of resources to keep themselves sheltered, fed, and tended to medically



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:13 PM
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Romantic_Rebel,

The ole USA has too much burden of their own without taking in Mexico. We are so busted, more than broke that is not even a possibility. We'll never take in Canada but the time is coming Canada will take in a lot of the northern states of America. A Russian analyst has put out that opinion and Bible prophecy also makes it look that way too. America has been had and lots of people know it and the rest soon will.

Truthiron.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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Well since you used it as an example, I assumed you would know more about it.

Taiwan is not under Chinese government. It is an independant nation, with its own government.

If the US arbitrarily decided to take over Mexico, how would it care for the people?



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by InvisibleAlbatross
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel
 


Well since you used it as an example, I assumed you would know more about it.

Taiwan is not under Chinese government. It is an independant nation, with its own government.

If the US arbitrarily decided to take over Mexico, how would it care for the people?


I believe you're mentioning Tibet here and not Taiwan or the Republic of China.
Tibet and the Dali Lama? Republic of China
I believe the Mexican people themselves and a government by the people which would work with the U.S. control the country.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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The Republic of China is Taiwan. The People's Republic of China is China. They are separate countries. Taiwan (ROC) has its own government.

If Mexico were to be annexed, huge amounts of foreign aid would have to be given, in order to stabilize the economy. I just cannot see this being feasible with the economic problems facing the US itself. Ending the War on Drugs and NAFTA could potentially have a far greater effect that annexing an independant nation.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:29 PM
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I believe if the Drug War was ended and the legalization of Drugs legalized then we would have a better chance of taking care of the economy. I believe this could work. Just give it time and it will work.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by Wally Hope
 


I agree with that statement! That is one of the many reasons I support the EZLN and the views of the group.


Thing is China is not socialist, it was a dictatorship. True socialism wouldn't have a dictator, and doesn't even need government (see libertarian socialism). Most of Chinas industry was privately owned by foreign interests.

Socialism and capitalism cannot work side by side. The goals are too different and would cause a lot of conflict.

This is why there are no socialist countries, we have a world wide capitalist system, any country that doesn't play the capitalist game are simply economically destroyed, and sometimes militarily.

Socialism will only work if the majority of the economy is socialist (as in the workers ownership of the means of production).

Because the wealth in capitalist countries is concentrated in the hands of the few, and the wealth in socialist countries more evenly spread, the capitalist country will have the economic power to exploit the socialist country. The same thing happens inside the capitalist system with the owners and the workers. The owners have the economic power to exploit the workers. In socialism the wealth is more evenly spread and gives no one person the advantage to economically exploit others less fortunate.
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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:42 PM
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Well you do have Vietnam and probably a few others. I haven't really looked into what country is which in a while now. I do agree non these countries are truly Socialist or Communist.



posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to post by Wally Hope
 


Well you do have Vietnam and probably a few others. I haven't really looked into what country is which in a while now. I do agree non these countries are truly Socialist or Communist.


Vietnam is not socialist either, just another dictatorship masquerading under a false name. If the workers don't own the means of production, and there is top down control, then it's not socialism.

Government systems have often used terms that are a contradiction, National Socialism is a good example, used to make the people think they were for them. Nationalist they obviously were, socialist they most certainly were not (they cannot be both anyway). They do it to keep the populations confused and realising the true nature of what they support, and still do it today. Government, and the state system, can only exist if we allow it to, we used to understand that far more than we do now.
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posted on Dec, 5 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
I believe I know the answer and I would like to propose the answer the best way I can for both Americans and Mexicans. I believe following One country, Two systems will ease the flow of people going into the newly formed country and still allow Mexicans to have their own area.


What your describing is already the case. That is the problem,not the solution.
Keep dancing.

edit on 5-12-2010 by RRokkyy because: (no reason given)



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