Harvard students challenge TSA

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


This is how it workswww.justice.gov... Law enforcement are the ones that initially were and are still guided by the constitution. This is no different from law enforcement raiding your home without a warrant. The spirit of the law is so that the authorities can not take action against the populace as they are now doing in airports. These are clear violations and I am so pleased to learn that some have finally decided to challenge the abuse of authority.

reply to post by Witness2008


The above link doesnt work.
This entire situation caused a brief uproar in the US. It was on every news channel, articles on every news page...up through Thanksgiving. The last week, not so much.
The PTB think the storm has passed. We as Americans cannot it die. Unfortunately, for it to reach the mass and continue, it needs to be covered. One of these lawsuits have to work. Or Orwellian, he we come.

reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


Scanning your body unwarranted is deemed illegal, and an infringement of the Fourth Amendment right. Suggesting that no one is forcing you to be scanned would hold true, if a person was able to retreat, and leave the premises. Only problem is, if as a potential customer of any airlines, you decide to NOT par take in any form of scan/pat down, you can't just leave the airport. You now get detained against your will, and questioned as if you are a terrorist.

Case in point: Apparently, passengers do not have the right to leave the security area if they decline the new security procedures according to a ruling by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals:

"Requiring that a potential passenger be allowed to revoke consent to an ongoing airport security search makes little sense in a post-9/11 world. Such a rule would afford terrorists multiple opportunities to attempt to penetrate airport security by 'electing not to fly' on the cusp of detection until a vulnerable portal is found."

source: www.tripadvisor.in...

This statement from the very own TSA website, under the title [ Mission Of The External Compliance Division, Office Of Civil Rights And Liberties] claims and I quote: To ensure that the civil rights and liberties of the traveling public are respected throughout screening processes, without compromising security. The Division ensures that Agency processes and procedures do not discriminate against the traveling public, and abide by the constitutional freedoms of the traveling public.

source: www.tsa.gov...

With the knowledge that they " claim " to embrace the peoples constitutional rights, infringing on the Fourth is permitted? How does that work?

Btw, you stated and I quote, " As soon as YOU get in line on YOUR OWN BEHALF, YOU have initiated the search process and are giving them permission to scan you. "

With your above comment, are you seriously suggesting that people are " waiving " their rights? Are you serious? You actually believe that by standing in a simple line, that gives them permission to violate your rights? You can't be that uneducated?

Stop watching re-runs of Barney and get with the program!

and then you turn around at the last minute, you give them probable cause to search you because it is suspicious activity. They will follow you and force you to be searched.
reply to post by gift0fpr0phecy


Bad analogy young man - the only way your analogy would work is if there was a checkpoint at your driveway everytime you got in your car - I guess you could then walk because YOU don't have to drive

Which law school did you say you went to?

reply to post by Whereweheaded

With your above comment, are you seriously suggesting that people are " waiving " their rights? Are you serious? You actually believe that by standing in a simple line, that gives them permission to violate your rights? You can't be that uneducated?

Keep watching re-runs of Barney and ignore the pogrom!

Fixed

reply to post by ReadyPower


Thank you, my husband works specifically point to the ability of traveling on notice, this means, by car, airplane, bus or else to meet goals and time lines.

So for many people traveling in an airplane is not a luxury is a necessity.

So to say that people have choices, while that may be truth in some instances is not many choices at all for those that their jobs depend on how they can travel the fastest and in a timely manner.