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a universe full of Bubble shaped lenses (theory)

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posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:46 PM
reply to post by this_is_who_we_are

when you consider the helio lens is inside the galactic lens
you have the Possibility the two lenses factoring there effect against each other to skew our veiw
even more

here is a short thread on hubbles constant and lenses

alternate explination of hubbels constant with lenses

i have written a whole series of threads that span the whole subject of how my alternate universe works

i can post them from begining to end if you would like


posted on Dec, 7 2010 @ 01:54 PM
reply to post by this_is_who_we_are

here is an interesting explination of some of the things we are seeing that we dont understand due to these unexpected lenses

gravatational microscoping



posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 07:16 AM
Perhaps it is all due to our own eyeballs. We all look through the lens of our eyes, all our observation is based on it. Perhaps our whole view of the universe, and even the measurements and observations we take are limited by our own perceptual apparatus.

posted on Dec, 11 2010 @ 12:29 PM
reply to post by SystemResistor

thats a very interesting observation
as the eyes are lenses themselves
they must be added to the equation

posted on Dec, 21 2010 @ 02:13 PM
here is a picture of a super nova explosion
not related to the theory at all
more of a picture for invisioning what im proposing

this is not really connected but intended to show the bubble shape the objeccts in the universe can take


posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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Hi XPlodER, Heads up for all your research. My wee brain is going ten a penny now! I would add you as a friend but my 'hovering' over member under your avatar does not seem to work on my netbook to add you?

posted on Jan, 18 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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i have added you to my friends list

thank you for your feed back
this is one of my favourite threads
im glad people enjoy my work


posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:03 PM
adding some recent findings that confirm the theory that the universe is full of these lense shaped bubbles

"We show that gravitational lensing by foreground galaxies will lead to a higher number of galaxies to be counted at redshifts z>8-10. This number may be boosted significantly, by as much as an order of magnitude. If there existed only three galaxies above the detection threshold at redshifts z>10 in the Hubble field-of-view without the presence of lensing, the bias from gravitational lensing may make as many as 10-30 of them visible in the Hubble images," explains Windhorst. "In this sense, the very distant universe is like a house of mirrors that you visit at the State Fair -- there may be fewer direct lines-of-sight to a very distant object, and their images may reach us more often via a gravitationally-bent path. What you see is not what you've got!''

Future surveys will need to be designed to account for a significant gravitational lensing bias in high-redshift galaxy samples. Only the JWST -- if it gets finished as designed -- can ultimately make sense out of this gravitationally biased distant universe because it will have exquisite resolution and sensitivity at longer wavelengths to disentangle these very distant objects from the foreground lensing galaxies. This work is too hard to do with Hubble's Wide Field Camera 3 at redshifts z >= 10, because at Hubble's resolution one literally can no longer see the forest for the trees at these extreme distances.

"Our suggestion of the possibility of large gravitational lensing biases in high redshift samples is of crucial importance to the optimal design of surveys for the first galaxies

Link to science daily

the lenses discused in this article are galaxy lenses,
as detailed in the op i think the combination of these galaxy lenses and heliospherical lenses are causing a distorted image of the universe.
it seems that
the universe is full of lense shaped bubbles


posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:24 PM
reply to post by XPLodER
I was thinking if the universe is full of these bubbles, then maybe they are the invisible outline of the dark matter that everyone is talking about now?
From what I have read they have not come up with a shape for dark matter only that it exists?
Is it possible or are my amateurish ramblings giving you a laugh. he he....

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 07:40 PM
reply to post by kalenga

we can see "halos" of dark matter in some cases from the lack of anything in the area.
its my pet theory that the "image" we see as a galaxy is being distorted by a spherical lense (dark matter halo
) and that the optical and gravatational lense effects are "amplifying" the distortion and we are "seeing" a representation of what is in the "dark halo" as a image artifact.

the other point i would like to make is that galaxies themselves can magnify the image (outside of gravatational lensing) inside the galaxy.
i call this effect gravatational microscoping
it can explain some galaxies we "see" that "rotate" faster than the laws of gravity allow.
if the galaxy is magnifyed in this way the size perspective is "false" and the relitive speed is also "false" and much higher than gravity would allow.
on top of the optical lense effect is the gravatational lense effect, and when these two effects "lense" each other there properties are amplifyed

this can lead to strange observations that require strange particles and dark matter.

what you see is not whats really there
some objects are obscured
some are lensed like a magnifying glass
some objects locations are reflected from other locations

when we see "halos of dark matter" i insert lense shaped bubbles


edit on 30-1-2011 by XPLodER because: correction backwards

posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 12:53 PM
reply to post by XPLodER
It is just like the hall of mirrors at the funfare, aint it? It just seems like when we look through our telescopes, nothing is as it seems? How can this theory be unified and finalised as to the 'real' reality of the universe? Has anyone shown a diagramatical paper on how this would look taking into account the lensing effect? What does our universe really look like?

posted on Jan, 31 2011 @ 04:11 PM
reply to post by kalenga

the important point to note is that with the correct numbers and types of lenses our galaxy surveys could change.
as could their "perceived" distence from us.
its an intersting idea that if these bubbles truly are all around us our universe could be "reflections" from other bubbles "reflections"
what this means is that some of the galaxies we see may be image artifacts that are in multipul locations from different angles and none of the images are acually where the physical galaxy is.

so this has the ability to really change our veiw of the universe, including the distences to a large number stars.

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and this may increase by an order of magnitude

An order of magnitude is the class of scale or magnitude of any amount, where each class contains values of a fixed ratio to the class preceding it. In its most common usage, the amount being scaled is 10 and the scale is the (base 10) exponent being applied to this amount (therefore, to be an order of magnitude greater is to be 10 times as large). Such differences in order of magnitude can be measured on the logarithmic scale in "decades" (i.e. factors of ten).


untill the survey is complete this is an estimite nonillion to Decillion which is
a 10 with 30 to 300 zeros behind it depending on the survey results
so its posable a large chunck of the universe is lensed

these figuars are estimites only but show how big a change this could be

i am cautious about predicting exactly what will be found other than to say
the universe really is full of lense shaped bubbles and spherical shaped heliospherical bubbles.
and we are inside a bubble inside a lense, its no wounder everything is in the wrong place, when we look out of our bubbles.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 09:39 PM
the latest voyager videos have lens shaped bubbles magnifying the internal system

from this NASA video

the universe is full of lens shapped bubbles


posted on May, 8 2011 @ 03:40 AM
There is a binding force that seems to give atoms thier memory, so that they remain in specific shapes and forms, there could a principle of light that allows light to cling to certain objects in space, although along the lines of traditional thinking, light is projected and reflected off other objects.
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posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 03:58 AM
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A gravitational lens not only distorts the image of a distant object, it can also act like an optical lens

A false-color image of a galaxy in the distant universe as seen by the Submillimeter Array (SMA). The four knots in the image are all the same galaxy; it appears multiple and distorted because of an intervening galaxy (not visible to the SMA) that magnifies and deforms it. Credit: M. Negrello et al.

A gravitational lens not only distorts the image of a distant object, it can also act like an optical lens, collecting and refocusing the light to make it appear brighter. Wondering if gravitational lensing might be responsible for the unusual brightness of these objects, the Herschel scientists teamed up with CfA astronomers Mark Gurwell and Ray Blundell to use the Submillimeter Array (SMA) to help resolve the question through its superb spatial resolution.



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edit on 20-7-2011 by XPLodER because: add more

posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 04:10 AM

The Herschel Space Observatory, launched in May 2009, has a powerful new camera designed to image the heavens at very long infrared wavelengths; galaxies undergoing bursts of star formation appear bright at these wavelengths because their young stars heat dust which then radiates in the infrared. When Herschel scientists analyzed the first images from the new camera, they discovered many new galaxies -- and a handful of outstanding, bright ones.


hershal infra red space telescope

The SMA found that indeed the bright objects were distorted images of distant galaxies. Optical follow-ups helped to solidify the conclusion

credit NSF

a very reliable method for finding lenses


posted on Jul, 20 2011 @ 05:07 AM
november 19 2010 release NSF
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posted on Jul, 26 2011 @ 05:55 PM
Perhaps, light is actually projected from another dimension, and the interaction of light is a secondary phenomenon and additionally our sense of light might only be correlated to the secondary interactions as opposed to the primary interactions.

posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 03:42 AM
here is a recent release that supports the theory that the universe is full of lens shaped bubbles

The two images illustrate the effect of gravitational lensing. A massive galaxy at the center of the right panel causes the images of the background galaxies (white spots) to be enlarged and brightened.(Image credit: Joerg Colberg, Ryan Scranton, Robert Lupton, SDSS


the following picture is of the bubble around a galaxy and a star in the back round is allowing a spectrographic reading of the bubble to take place


posted on Feb, 14 2012 @ 04:44 AM
Mad work well done.

Could not help but be reminded of this thread from earlier:

Another subject I could not help but be reminded of is the cell membrane.

Thanks for sharing.

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