Proof of extra dimensions soon says CERN

reply to post by oozyism


The first thing that popped up in my head when i read your thread title was HALF-LIFE the pc game. Kinda scary to think we could not be to far off from doing the same thing. If i remember correctly, the game revovles around some scientists. Who using a machine similar to the LHC, look for other dimensions, and accidently open a door to another dimension and the creatures from the other dimension pour through.

I posted a thread on a similar topic, thought i would share

Link www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by miracleretiree
I discovered extra dimensions in 2009. I have pictures to prove them. And i did not do this with a 5 billion dollar budget i did it with less than 500$.

everything you can see has many dimensions you cannot see.

Did you post these pictures?

reply to post by jackflap


I like your explanation as to how we might 'experience' another dimension, and you could be onto something. The problem is 'visualizing' another dimension. In math/science we start with 1 dimension, the x-axis. It is a straight line to infinity in both directions. Then we add a second dimension, the y-axis which is also a straight line to infinity in 2 directions and it is perpendicular to the x-axis. Then we add a third dimension, the z-axis, and it is perpendicular to the x and y axis and now all three axes are "planes" instead of lines. Anywhere in the coordinate system all three axis are perpendicular.

Now, mathematically, to add a 4th dimension, it must be perpendicular to x, y, and z in all places. Maybe you could visualize this as another plane that is spherical and scalable so that anywhere it intersects any of the other 3 axes it is always perpendicular. We can prove that it is possible mathematically and we can define the 'plane' or 'surface' in such a way that it is defined in all areas and it has equations that make it useful. So, we can somewhat visualize that extra dimension.

Then it gets really tricky, according to mathematical research, we can define more and more dimensions, each dimension satisfying the requirement that it be perpendicular to all previous dimensions. To visualize these extra dimensions is impossible, they would seem to morph in and out of visibility as they intertwine amongst the other dimensions, but always crossing in a perpendicular fashion. These dimensions are useful in math and science, we use them in calculations, we use them in business modeling and physical chemistry modeling and many other "virtual" spaces.

Since the math proves they exist, and since we have found useful applications for their equations, it isn't difficult to believe that they are real and they serve some physical purpose. Last I heard scientists had been able to define up to 14 dimensions.

Since each dimension gets exponentially more complex, it is amazing to think we are only experiencing the first 3 with our physical senses. Imagine what the more complex universe must be like to experience! Imagine beine immersed in an experience that is 1000's of times more stimulating to your mind! If our mind could learn to experience all 14 (or more) dimensions and not be limited by our 5 physical senses we would either go completely insane or become Gods!

It is said that people with dyslexia interact with their environment on a more 3D level, and that is why they have a hard time with 2D characters on a page. Perhaps they have a better grasp of that next level? Many artists have also been said to have thought patterns that were abnormal or considered insane, yet they could accomplish great artistic feats. Perhaps they were operating with a grasp of at least one more dimension. Some people are psychic or have ESP or precognition, perhaps these folks are getting just a taste of intersecting with other dimensions.

Imagine having all of those things, at all times, and even more!

reply to post by getreadyalready

I like your explanation as to how we might 'experience' another dimension, and you could be onto something. The problem is 'visualizing' another dimension. In math/science we start with 1 dimension, the x-axis. It is a straight line to infinity in both directions. Then we add a second dimension, the y-axis which is also a straight line to infinity in 2 directions and it is perpendicular to the x-axis. Then we add a third dimension, the z-axis, and it is perpendicular to the x and y axis and now all three axes are "planes" instead of lines. Anywhere in the coordinate system all three axis are perpendicular.

You could probably tell that I seriously don't know what the heck I'm talking about concerning another dimension actually. I was just messing around. I love the idea of it even though I do not fully grasp it. You seem to have learned and acquired a realistic grasp of the concept. This may sound like a silly question to you then.

How do we know all of the planes are perpendicular? I know you mentioned that utilizing the formulas gleaned from these extra dimensions are applied to real world applications and they work but how in the world have we figured out that another dimension would have perpendicular planes?

I posted these links in a different thread but i dont think anybody has checked it and i thought it truly deserved its Own Thread, This is a serious topic that could have a serious debate with like minded people.

These links are for a documentary made by the bbc ( 5 part ) and covers a lot of theory and Science into the "start of the universe" and has a explanation as to how the "BIG BANG" Actually occurred. It also explains theory for the possibility of their being other dimensions ( 11 ) and many "possibly infinite" reality. The are a few " Experts " who give their theory and explain it in easy to understand terms with excellent visuals.

Definitely worth a watch, you would not regret it.

www.youtube.com... Part 1
www.youtube.com... Part 2
www.youtube.com... Part 3
www.youtube.com... Part 4
www.youtube.com... Part 5

Link - www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sorry for repost but it is very appropriate for this topic

reply to post by jackflap


It's been a while since I was in school and studied this level of mathematics, but I think we arbitrarily assigned this definition to a "dimension." In other words when we laid out the x, y, z, coordinates that we are all familiar with, they were defined to be perpendicular to one another, so when mathematics advanced, we kept that definition in defining further "dimensions."

This forum has to have the dumbest people around, and that's saying alot.

Originally posted by dominicus
Honestly,
Im a little uneasy about this.

I can see stargate coming soon, accessing those dimensions ...who knows what Beings, Viruses, disease, and other sorts of craziness is there.....

No imagine some of that craziness released into our dimension...

Too many scary scenarios

Some people would tell you that we already get visitors and 'craziness' from other dimensions, who know how to access our dimensions

they have it all wroing,we are in a black hole each dimnesion is a black hole within a black hole hence why the curvature of space timeis the same as a black holes and the universe began with a singularity...what else creates a singularity other than a black hole?

mainstream physics is a joke im gonna take on the whole physics community and best them ive already done it with the aliens and their cover up program ie that intelligence in humans can only bee mathematical because computers are mathematical and computers are mathematical aka archimedes and his kin,i completly annnihilated him and his work.he ended up just copying my work and pretending it was his.

reply to post by oozyism


I hate to be bursting bubbles here, but this isn't what these scientists mean by extra dimensions. They mean spatial dimensions. (The end of the movie even says that this isn't the accepted model for multiple dimensions)

Draw a line. There's your first dimension. Draw a line at a 90 degree angle to the first. Second dimension. A third line at 90 degree angles to the first two create a third dimension, and to create the fourth dimension, draw a line a 90 degree angle to the first three. That's it. It isn't time, time is a parameter... space is a function of time.

Im not saying that video might not contain true things about the structure of the multiverse, but it is not what these scientists mean by extra dimensions

Originally posted by HeresHowItGoes
they have it all wroing,we are in a black hole each dimnesion is a black hole within a black hole hence why the curvature of space timeis the same as a black holes and the universe began with a singularity...what else creates a singularity other than a black hole?

mainstream physics is a joke im gonna take on the whole physics community and best them ive already done it with the aliens and their cover up program ie that intelligence in humans can only bee mathematical because computers are mathematical and computers are mathematical aka archimedes and his kin,i completly annnihilated him and his work.he ended up just copying my work and pretending it was his.

Troll of the year?

I think so!

reply to post by oozyism


Anyone seen the movie, "The Mist"? It's about a "mist" which is released from a government experiment in opening dimensional doors (good movie btw) which released the inhabitants of said dimensions. Now of course this is a movie and not real life, but how do we know what lies beyond? What may sound extremely fantastic for us, may be the norm for the next dimension etc.

Either way, cool thread.

It's an extremely fascinating topic. Just the thought of possibly one day knowing "what if". The question remains though.... would it be one of those things that are better off not known?

So was CERN built to try and punch into extra dimensions? Really?

Originally posted by john_bmth

Originally posted by HeresHowItGoes
they have it all wroing,we are in a black hole each dimnesion is a black hole within a black hole hence why the curvature of space timeis the same as a black holes and the universe began with a singularity...what else creates a singularity other than a black hole?

mainstream physics is a joke im gonna take on the whole physics community and best them ive already done it with the aliens and their cover up program ie that intelligence in humans can only bee mathematical because computers are mathematical and computers are mathematical aka archimedes and his kin,i completly annnihilated him and his work.he ended up just copying my work and pretending it was his.

Troll of the year?

I think so!

so you actually are denying the fact that we exist within a black hole?

do it please......if you cant deduce this is the truth it shows your lack of intelligence serverly.

Originally posted by Frontkjemper
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Anyone seen the movie, "The Mist"? It's about a "mist" which is released from a government experiment in opening dimensional doors (good movie btw) which released the inhabitants of said dimensions.

Yep I've seen "The Mist"...........It's a good movie and is much more interesting,involving and gripping movie than the rather plain title might at first suggest.

Well worth a viewing if you've not seen it yet.