Greetings,

I have read a post that made me think, are peoples definitions of Right/Conservative and Left/Progressive misguided?

So I guess we will soon see.


I will post my take after a few replies.

Progressives believe in change for the better. They believe in cooperation. They believe that humankind can improve. They believe in ideals above the behaviors of our animal instincts.

Conservatives believe that most changes cause more problems than benefits. They believe in competition. They believe in tradition and authority.

The most interesting phenomenon I see today is Tea Party types wearing 18th century outfits as if to imply that they believe in the ideals of the Founders. In fact, the Founders were very progressive for their day. The same people who are Tea Partiers today (oh, the irony) would surely have been the Tories of the revolutionary war period.

I am sure that in 1776 some brassy broad loudly proclaimed that "we want our country back," by which she meant a return to the rule of the King.

AH, stimulating indeed.

As if thou have not discovered, I shall reveal this one; easily and briefly:

Conservative: Wealthy-Powerful-Caucasian-Only-Clan, Christian-Influence (a disgusting but powerful tactic to gain the lower classes votes) Anti-disabled, Anti-Senior-Citizen, Anti-Social Security, Anti-Workers-Rights, Anti-Regulation, Anti-environment, to name but a few!

Liberal: DESPICABLE-Middle-Class-And Lower-Class-Lovers, Pro-Employee-Rights-And-Wages, Pro-Environment, Pro-Veteran-Care-Rights-Benefits, Pro-Senior-Citizen--Benefits-Assistance, Pro-American-Workers, to name but a few.

Our fat Elephant shall gain control soon enough and rightfully take from thy middle class. Thou despicable COMMONERS have had enough help from thou LIBERALS. We shall terminate this; for the commoners deserve nothing but ENSLAVEMENT.

We shall win over the despicable liberals and thy despicable commoners. We shall RISE AGAIN!!!

We must rise and destroy the economy again before those Liberals get it back to prospering levels with surplus.

Nothing shall thou commoners do to stop us.

Despicable pheasants are thou and their Democratic politicians shall not win.

Well, my take will be on the implementation rather than the theory. There is a big differance.

Conservatives have shown that they pursue the following ideals:

* Preservation and contribution to large corporations
* Strengthing of Military Assets and Foreign Policy (empire building) at the expense of induvidual welfare
* Supposed reduction of government by way of reduction of funds to social programs
* Implementation of socially conservative policies that prohibit the free expression of self

Liberals have show that they pursue the following ideals:
* Preservation and contribution to populist organizations such as trade unions and civil defense organizations
* Bloating of government through increasingly larger social programs that are tied to complicated regulations.
* Total ignorance (when allowed) or foreign policy (with the exception of Israeli matters) to the point of isolationism
* Implementation of facist like strictures against public expression to "support civil liberties and rights"

In other words, both are basically the same. They bloat government under the guise of "protecting" us. All the while they are fattening their wallets and guaranteeing, in the off chance that they lose an election, that there is a lucrative paycheck as a consultant somewhere waiting for them.

I heard an interesting remark recently:

Two astronauts land on a new planet.

The conservative astronaut worries what about the planet constitues a danger to him.

The liberal astronaut worries what about him constitues a danger to the planet.