DD(X) Future Stealth Destroyer.

The DD(X) is the future destroyer of the US navy it will have stealth features and the radar cross section of a merchant vessel. It will use an electric turbine propeller to be extra quiet it will cruise up to 50 knots and have all of its cruise aegis missiles and torpedoes concealed to reduce radar cross section. It will have two 5 inch guns which will fire shells up to 60 miles and the shells will be guided by satellite to be precision ammunition. Do any other navies have anything compared to the DD(X) which is due to enter service by 2012.





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[edit on 27-6-2004 by WestPoint23]

No one in the world can match the $ we put into out military-so no one in the world will have them as advanced or as many. That said, there are several countries that are working on it-see link

news.bbc.co.uk...

yes the sweedish are working on some amazing ships but they dont stand a chance against a ddx when it is produced in 2012 it will be te stealthiest ship in the US navy.

They are looking at energy weapons or a rail gun. The "smart" electrical systems will be able to divert electricty from propulsion to the gun, then back when it is not needed....

We covered the developements of various countries recently in the thread Stealth Ships Steam Ahead.

Undoubtly the US will produce some amazing tech with the amount of resources they are investing in the project much of which will be hidden and unknown to us.

The idea of a rail gun firing projectiles 200km in support of land troop will certainly lend credence to the arsenal ship concept

Originally posted by Popeye
We covered the developements of various countries recently in the thread Stealth Ships Steam Ahead.

Undoubtly the US will produce some amazing tech with the amount of resources they are investing in the project much of which will be hidden and unknown to us.

The idea of a rail gun firing projectiles 200km in support of land troop will certainly lend credence to the arsenal ship concept

As far as I know though, the arsenal ship is dead. However, the conversion of the Ohio Class balistic subs to missile carriers is an interesting variant on it. 154 Tomahawk missiles can pack quite a punch. See it at
www.fas.org...

Originally posted by WestPoint23
The DD(X) is the future destroyer of the US navy it will have stealth features and the radar cross section of a merchant vessel. It will use an electric turbine propeller to be extra quiet it will cruise up to 50 knots and have all of its cruise aegis missiles and torpedoes concealed to reduce radar cross section. It will have two 5 inch guns which will fire shells up to 60 miles and the shells will be guided by satellite to be precision ammunition. Do any other navies have anything compared to the DD(X) which is due to enter service by 2012.

Dude, where did you get those facts from? Those are ridiculous.

First of all, it will have a RCS that is smaller than anything out there. Not sure why you would think that we would want a large one.

It will use two propellors with a directly coupled electric drive (no reduction gears, yeah) that will not propel it to 50 knots. Nothing that big can go that fast. Design specs call for it to have a speed in "excess of 30 knots."

It will not carry any Cruise AEGIS missiles (whatever the heck those are). It will carry tomahawks and ESSMs. The CG(X)'s will carry out anti-air duties.

Stick to pud, I mean ground, pounding.

Looks nice enough but it seems to lack fire power. Hasn't the Royal Navy been working on this sort of thing for a while now. BTW I think that a French destroyer known as Le Terrible was capable of doing about 50 knots. Not to sure about that.

don't let its appearance fool you it has all of its cruise and other missiles in side bays in the ship look where the red arrow is pointing.

Originally posted by WestPoint23
don't let its appearance fool you it has all of its cruise and other missiles in side bays in the ship look where the red arrow is pointing.

The missiles will be fired out of VLS tubes. The torpedoes will be fired from SVTT tubes or helicopters.

There will not be "side bays" for the weapons.

[edit on 28/6/04 by COOL HAND]

i'm glad Britain's allies with America
wouldn't want to get in the way of that beast of a ship

The stealth ships is common term for ships which are very hardly detectable by various methods namely radar, visual, sonar.

Keep in mind however there is no (and never will be) such thing like the completely stealth ship. Simultaneously with developing the stealth technology the detection methods are improved.

It is of course matter of money. Who has the biggest budget for R&D is common knowledge.

BTW: don’t you feel nostalgia for an old beauties like USS “Iowa”.

Originally posted by COOL HAND
There will not be "side bays" for the weapons.

Intead of one big centralized magazine (which is very vulnerable, hit to that propably blows up/sinks whole ship) there are many smaller ones on sides of ship.

www.globalsecurity.org...
This might even work little like ERA if done right.

Originally posted by E_T
Intead of one big centralized magazine (which is very vulnerable, hit to that propably blows up/sinks whole ship) there are many smaller ones on sides of ship.

Actually the magazine is one of the most armored parts of today's ships. Only a direct hit has any hope of causing an explosion.

The real reason to spread out the ammo is to prevent the loss of all of your weapons if you have to flood the magizine in case of fire. By placing them in groups around the ship you guarntee yourself the ability to keep shooting even if you are taking damage.

[edit on 30/6/04 by COOL HAND]

they may be reinforced but they are in one spot so if its hit you cant fire anymore but having them spread out increases your chances of sustaining fire after being hit.

Originally posted by cyberdude78
Looks nice enough but it seems to lack fire power. Hasn't the Royal Navy been working on this sort of thing for a while now. BTW I think that a French destroyer known as Le Terrible was capable of doing about 50 knots. Not to sure about that.

The thing your thinking of is the RV triton there testing the trimaran concept on it .

The triton, is a nice ship. seen it at sea once myself although from about 10 miles or so away.

the FSC and the type 47 should look good and if i could get the picture thing to work i would put pictures of them up here.
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[edit on 16-10-2004 by blue cell]

"The DD(X) is the future destroyer of the US navy it will have stealth features and the radar cross section of a merchant vessel. "

the RN's Type 23's have the radar cross signature of a fishing boat! so why you would want a merchant ship's RCS i have no idea. They got stealth by not having any vertical side to the superstructure (designed early 80's), they are all tilted to 7degs.

"it will cruise up to 50 knots"

Not a chance!! ship resistance is proportional to the cube of the speed so the power requirements for a ship this size are through the roof.

"torpedoes concealed to reduce radar cross section"

What you think this is new?

"Do any other navies have anything compared to the DD(X) which is due to enter service by 2012."

Most major navies will have some form of stealth in place by the middle of the next decade.

The Rn should have it's third class of stealth vessel being built by then (type 23, type 45 and FSC). It is the FSC for which a number of designs have been looked at recently including trimairan hullforms (r.v. triton)

frn.beedall.com...

also see the sea wraith

www.defence-data.com...

There is also work to reduce all other sinatures, including light, IR, noise, and all electronic emmisions (did you know a sub can track a vessel by the electronic emmissions given off by the ship's Impressed current cathodic protection system - turn it off to be stealthy and the ships rusts!!)

so to answer the question of will anyone else have anything comparable to the DD(x), it would have to be that yes there will be other stealthy ships out there, i doubt they will be quite as effective (they will be much cheeper to build tho'). The yanks are NOT as far ahead of the rest of the world in ship design as you may like to believe.


[edit on 16-10-2004 by paperplane_uk]

The only countries I can think of that even stand a chance to the us in stealth ship design are great britain, and sweden. But if you have some links to prove otherwise please show them because Iwould be very intrested to see those designs.