Embarrassing Bush Interview on Irish TV, page 1

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 01:25 AM

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It's n intriguing transcript, one where the President seems to have his own agenda and is answering questions... but not the ones that the interviewer is asking. And check out his reaction to "the world is not a safer place" question:
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FreeMason

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 01:47 AM

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What are you talking about? He answered the questions asked and answered them well.

I'm only sad he did not mention that the UN found weapons of mass destruction when the interviewer asked "but you haven't found any WMDs".

Sauron

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by Byrd
. And check out his reaction to "the world is not a safer place" question:

I caught a short clip on the boob tube there I loved the look on his face, as he went into "leme tellya about 911" it was great only the Irish you say LOL
I'm going to read the transcript now

helenheaven

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 01:55 AM

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the only weapons of mass destruction used in terrorism have been american planes

Netchicken

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 01:56 AM

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Heh, hes doing the same sort of stuff I tried at varsity - memorise huge chunks of stuff and then just regergaitate it regardless of what the question was. Its no more successful for him as it was for me. Reading it you can see its just a premade stock answers that take no notice of what the interviewer is really trying to ask.

BTW this angle of " a minority of people abused the prisoners and that is not what the majority is like" is balony when you consider the instruction to abuse came from the top. Is he saying that the policies run by his government are not those that are in concord with the rest of the people in America?

helenheaven

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 02:02 AM

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that is because Bush is a dork that can't see past his on administration

like his father he has no grasp on the ambitions of other cultures, or any understanding what so ever that they have a different outlook in life

he says he is very spiritual but I think that is just a crock

FreeMason

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by helenheaven
the only weapons of mass destruction used in terrorism have been american planes

Oh how about all that Sarin gas they stopped at the Syrian Border?

How about that Nerve Gas in that Japanese Subway?

How about you just be quiet.

This was an excellent interview, none of you can quote one bad "piece" of it. Not one.

helenheaven

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 02:12 AM

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hmm, neither in Iraq

so where is Osama these days ?
Is the USA really that much safer with George Bush bombing Iraq ? Or has he just made a lot of people a lot more angry ?

Bastet

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 02:23 AM

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I'm with you on that one, Netchicken - regurgitating chunks of memorised stuff no matter the question being asked. Freemason says he answered fullt - well I think he simply pushed his own barrow.

Embarrassing? I think so, but I'm pretty occupied with my own embarrassment over Oz's John the Weasel.

On a happy note though - at least I've been made well aware that Bush is the first American president to call for the establishment of a Palestinian state

Pisky

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 02:26 AM

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To be fair, I didn't like the way the interviewer constantly interrupted Bush in the middle of his answers. I don't agree that the place is a safer place now - its not - but most of the interview consisted of the interviewer trying to trip him up.

I want fair answers to fair questions and I don't think Bush was given a chance to put his point across.

FreeMason

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 02:26 AM

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Several things.

First, who the f'ing-a really cares where Ossama is? He is not the "ultimate supreme leader" of Al Qaeda. Kill him and Al Qaeda will still exist. In fact killing him would probably strengthen Al Qaeda spiritually.

Next, why Iraq.

Iraq is a great place to have "liberated" from the clutches of a dictator for several reasons.

First, if he had WMDs he had to be put down immediately, UN says he did have WMDs and their recent findings are quite scary.

Second, Iraq was a regional aggressor, in order to maintain stability in the region a new regime had to be put there.

Third, Iraq openly aided Palestinian suicide bombers.

Fourth, Iraq being a rogue nation set a great example to other rogue nations (if you don't know what a rogue nation is you aren't really worthy enough to talk to me) when we knocked over that regime.

Basically, when we knocked Saddam out of power, Iran, Lybia and North Korea all capitulated in their stubborn defiance of US and UN declarations.

So we basically killed 4 birds with one stone.

Fifth, by "liberating" Iraq we have concentrated all Al Qaeda efforts on Iraq. Thus can deal with them there, not in the United States.

This is because Al Qaeda can not allow Iraq to become a secular democracy, if this happens the Arab world will be left utterly open to the out-side's influence. Which means modernization, which means moderation, which means a death of the Whahabi movement which means the death of Al Qaeda and the beliefs they hold.

So as you can see, directly Iraq has little to do with anything, but indirectly it has accomplished more goals than we could have hoped for.

helenheaven

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 02:35 AM

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whilst I agree that attacking Iraq may have provided those outcomes, the reality is the opposite

terrorism all around the world has increased despite more precautions and a higher level of vigilance

Bush has demonstrated little finesse in dealing with the issues, and that interview summed up how ignorant he is at understanding the problems

Jamuhn

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 02:46 AM

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Yea, I thought the interview as well was pretty solid as far as regurgitation is concerned. The part about winning the war on terror is particularly interesting because of the statements mixed blessing. Bush's response allowed for the feeling that the administration's plans are working for the best and that the success of which will boost support for more war/liberation. Obviously, Bush is and has been implying there are more wars to follow, so is that going to be a good thing or bad thing?

helenheaven

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 02:51 AM

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any more fighting is a bad thing, we all know that

unfortunately Bush's administration can't see past the fighting... (has everyone forgotten Vietnam ?) no one can ever pull out, even when it is clear the wrong path has been followed

there are very few answers left now, they should never have gone in, wrong target, wrong reasons

the longer they stay on their current course, the worse the mess

Sauron

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 03:45 AM

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My take on the president�s interview with the Irish press

Q Mr. President, you're going to arrive in Ireland in about 24 hours' time, and no doubt you will be welcomed by our political leaders. Unfortunately, the majority of our public do not welcome your visit because they're angry over Iraq, they're angry over Abu Ghraib. Are you bothered by what Irish people think?
THE PRESIDENT: Listen, I hope the Irish people understand the great values of our country. And if they think that a few soldiers represents the entirety of America, they don't really understand America then.There have been great ties between Ireland and America, and we've got a lot of Irish Americans here that are very proud of their heritage and their country. But, you know, they must not understand if they're angry over Abu Ghraib -- if they say, this is what America represents, they don't understand our country, because we don't represent that. We are a compassionate country. We're a strong country, and we'll defend ourselves -- but we help people. And we've helped the Irish and we'll continue to do so. We've got a good relationship with Ireland.

A simple yes or no would have worked here and he has the nerve to say �listen� the man has no manners

Q And they're angry over Iraq, as well, and particularly the continuing death toll there.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I can understand that. People don't like war. But what they should be angry about is the fact that there was a brutal dictator there that had destroyed lives and put them in mass graves and had torture rooms. Listen, I wish they could have seen the seven men that came to see me in the Oval Office -- they had their right hands cut off by Saddam Hussein because the currency had devalued when he was the leader. And guess what happened? An American saw the fact that they had had their hands cut off and crosses -- or Xs carved in their forehead. And he flew them to America. And they came to my office with a new hand, grateful for the generosity of America, and with Saddam Hussein's brutality in their mind.

He lies here the seven men where caught using America currency and thats why they had a hand chopped off and a X branded on the heads and there he goes saying listen again

Look, Saddam Hussein had used weapons of mass destruction against his own people, against the neighborhood. He was a brutal dictator who posed a threat -- such a threat that the United Nations voted unanimously to say, Mr. Saddam Hussein �

Supplied by his father�s administration

Q Indeed, Mr. President, but you didn't find the weapons of mass destruction.

This one is easy George no you didn�t

THE PRESIDENT: Let me finish. Let me finish. May I finish? He said -- the United Nations said, disarm or face serious consequences. That's what the United Nations said. And guess what? He didn't disarm. He didn't disclose his arms. And, therefore, he faced serious consequences. But we have found a capacity for him to make a weapon. See, he had the capacity to make weapons. He was dangerous. And no one can argue that the world is better off with Saddam -- if Saddam Hussein were in power

Guess what George the UN arms inspectors said they didn't or at lest they could not find any

Q But, Mr. President, the world is a more dangerous place today. I don't know whether you can see that or not.
THE PRESIDENT: Why do you say that?

George don�t you read the papers, watch CNN at least?

Q There are terrorist bombings every single day. It's now a daily event. It wasn't like that two years ago.
THE PRESIDENT: What was it like September the 11th, 2001? It was a -- there was a relative calm, we

We what George blew those buildings up are selfs

THE PRESIDENT: Let me finish. Let me finish, please. Please. You ask the questions and I'll answer them, if you don't mind. On September the 11th, 2001, we were attacked in an unprovoked fashion. Everybody thought the world was calm. And then there have been bombings since then -- not because of my response to Iraq. There were bombings in Madrid. There were bombings in Istanbul. There were bombings in Bali. There were killings in Pakistan.

But George the Madrid bombings where traced back to the Spanish bomb squad

Q Indeed, Mr. President, and I think Irish people understand that. But I think there is a feeling that the world has become a more dangerous place because you have taken the focus off al Qaeda and diverted into Iraq. Do you not see that the world is a more dangerous place? I saw four of your soldiers lying dead on the television the other day, a picture of four soldiers just lying there without their flight jackets.

Well that�s something you don�t see here in North America George

THE PRESIDENT: Listen; nobody cares more about the death than I do �
Q Is there a point or place �?
Nobody cares more about the deaths than I do. I care about it a lot. But I do believe the world is a safer place and becoming a safer place. I know that a free Iraq is going to be a necessary part of changing the world. Listen, people join terrorist organizations because there's no hope and there's no chance to raise their families in a peaceful world where there is not freedom. And so the idea is to promote freedom, and at the same time protect our security. And I do believe the world is becoming a better place, absolutely.

I�m sure you do care about death Skull and Bonesman I guess George you forgot where you are going? Does IRA, UDA ring any bells

Q Mr. President, you are a man who has a great faith in God. I've heard you say many times that you strive to serve somebody greater than yourself.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.

Yea just happens to be the Devil, but we wont tell a George

Q Do you believe that the hand of God is guiding you in this war on terror?
THE PRESIDENT: Listen, I think that God -- that my relationship with God is a very personal relationship. And I turn to the good Lord for strength. And I turn to the good Lord for guidance. I turn to the good Lord for forgiveness. But the God I know is not one that -- the God I know is one that promotes peace and freedom. But I get great sustenance from my personal relationship. That doesn't make me think I'm a better person than you are, by the way. Because one of the great admonitions in the Good Book is, don't try to take a speck out of your eye if I've got a log in my own.

You lost me George do you have a different God, and I have a spec in my eye, I will wipe it out, that log must hurt George

Q You're going to meet Bertie Ahern when you arrive in Shannon Airport tomorrow. I guess he went out on a limb for you, presumably because of the great friendship between our two countries. Can you look him in the eye when you get there and say, it will be worth it, it will work out?
THE PRESIDENT: Absolutely. I wouldn't be doing this, I wouldn't have made the decisions I did if I didn't think the world would be better. Of course. I'm not going to put people in harm's way, our young, if I didn't think the world would be better. And �

George George, George, just like those little kiddies at the school you sat at and put in harms way, you know being a target and all, instead of being rushed out like the plans call for

Q Why is it that others --
THE PRESIDENT: Let me finish. And so, yes, I can turn to my friend, Bertie Ahern, and say, thank you, thanks for helping, and I appreciate it very much. And there will be other challenges, by the way.

Other challenges like what advice on what to do about terrorist, you came to the right place

Q Why is it that others don't understand what you're about?
THE PRESIDENT: I don't know. History will judge what I'm about. But I'm the kind of person, I don't really try to chase popular polls, or popularity polls. My job is to do my job and make the decisions that I think are important for our country and for the world. And I argue strongly that the world is better off because of the decisions I have made -- along with others. America is not in this alone. One of our greatest allies of -- in the world is your neighbor, Great Britain. Tony Blair has been a strong advocate for not only battling terrorists, but promoting freedom, for which I am grateful

Another fib George you once said � I don�t care we�ll all be dead� remember that one

Let me say one other thing about America that your viewers must know -- is that not only are we working hard to promote security and peace, we're also working to eradicate famine and disease. There is no more generous country on the face of the earth than the United States of America, when it comes to fighting HIV/AIDS. As a matter of fact, it was my initiative

George your kidding right your idea to fight famine, get a way you�re kidding right

Q Indeed, that's understood �
THE PRESIDENT: -- my initiative, that asked Congress to spend $15 billion over five years to battle this pandemic. And we're following through on it. And no other country in the world feeds more of the hungry than the United States. We're a compassionate nation

That�s very noble how many people live in poverty in the United States George

Q Mr. President, I know your time is tight, can I move you on to Europe? Are you satisfied that you are getting enough help in Iraq from European countries? You have come together, you are more friendly now -- but they're not really stepping up to the plate with help, are they?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think, first of all, most of Europe supported the decision in Iraq. And, really, what you're talking about is France, isn't it? And they didn't agree with my decision. They did vote for the U.N. Security Council resolution that said, disclose, disarm or face serious consequences. We just had a difference of opinion about when you say something, do you mean it.But, nevertheless, there's no doubt in my mind President Chirac would like to see a free and democratic and whole Iraq emerge. And same in Afghanistan. They've been very helpful in Afghanistan. They're willing to forgive debt in Iraq. But most European countries are very supportive and are participating in the reconstruction of Iraq.

Difference of opinion George that�s putting it mildly your such a kidder

Q And how do you see the handover going? The next few weeks are going to be crucial. Can democracy really flourish with the violence that's going on? A hundred Iraqis dead today, Mr. President.
THE PRESIDENT: I don't like death, either. I mean, you keep emphasizing the death and I don't blame you -- but all that goes to show is the nature of the enemy. These people are willing to kill innocent people. They're willing to slaughter innocent people to stop the advance of freedom. And so the free world has to make a choice: Do we cower in the face of terror, or do we lead in the face of terror?And I'm going to lead in the face of terror. We will not let these terrorists dash the hopes and ambitions of the people of Iraq. There's some kind of attitude that says, oh, gosh, the terrorists attacked, let's let the Iraqis suffer more. We're not going to let them suffer more. We're going to work with them. And I'm most proud of this fellow, Prime Minister Allawi. He's strong and he's tough. He says to me, Mr. President, don't leave our country, help us secure our country so we can be free.

Go, lead George get out there in Humvee lead the charge no wait George they got those 500 lb they might drop on you and kill a hole bunch of innocent people

Q Indeed, Mr. President, just to get back to that. Can I just turn to the Middle East --
THE PRESIDENT: Sure.
Q -- and you will be discussing at the EU summit and the idea of bringing democracy to the broader Middle East.
THE PRESIDENT: Right.

Yea right after you invade Iran, Syria and who ever else wants democracy

Q Is that something that really should start, though, with the solving of the Israeli-Palestinian crisis?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, I think, first of all, you've got a democracy in Turkey. And you've got a democracy emerging in Afghanistan. You've got a democracy in Pakistan. In other words �

Sorry George your team didn�t prep you on the curve ball, oh well just go on with what you practiced

Q But shouldn't that be on the top of the list --
THE PRESIDENT: Please. Please. Please, for a minute, okay. It'll be better if you let me finish my answers, and then you can follow up, if you don't mind. What I'm telling you is democracy can emerge at the same time that a democracy can emerge in the Palestinian state. I'm the first American President to have called for the establishment of a Palestinian state, the first one to do so. Because I believe it is in the Palestinian people's interest; I believe it's in Israel's interest. And, yes, we're working. But we can do more than, you know, one thing at a time. And we are working on the road map with the Quartet, to advance the process down the road.
Like Iraq, the Palestinian and the Israeli issue is going to require good security measures. And �

One thing at a time George do you mean like Afghanistan never did finish that one.

Q And a bit more even-handedness from America?
THE PRESIDENT: -- and we're working on security measures. And America -- I'm the first President to ever have called for a Palestinian state. That's, to me, sounds like a reasonable, balanced approach. But I will not allow terrorists to determine the fate -- as best I can, determine the fate of people who want to be free.

Right after we take all the peoples rights away back in the States

Q Mr. President, thank you very much for talking to us.
THE PRESIDENT: You're welcome.

I don�t know why they let this guy out on the world stage he an embarrassment to the country

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fawlty

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 08:14 AM

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This is for the people trashing the president (hey Michael Moore does it...and he makes movies..so it must be cool). Saddam was a liability. We couldnt let him control all of that oil money and spend it on funding terrorist groups for attacks on U.S. interests. Do you think Saddam would refuse giving Al-Qaeda WMD technology or money to buy needed materials, information or training? Saddam publicly gave money to palestinians to blow themselves up. We invaded Iraq to remove it as a high liability. It was feasible. It is not as feasible to deal with N. Korea or Iran or even Syria although it could easily be done if we really wanted to do it.

Foreign Policy is about planning for the future...its not just reactionary. Why did countries like France oppose war with Iraq? Not because of some high ideals, but because they were illegally dealing with Iraq and making a lot of money. No one out there is going to watch your back....

by the way...those are some of the stupidest questions I have seen asked. Who cares about Abu Ghraib!!! No one seems upset over Americans burned and drug through the streets or beheaded. Where is the uproar over that? Damn liberals.

curme

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 08:26 AM

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The 9/11 reference was hilairious. It's like he throws it out whenever he doesn't have an answer, which is a lot, whether it has a relevance to anything or not.

Anyway, I don't know who should be more embarrassed. The President for looking so incompetent or the US press, who has been so soft on Bush and afraid to ask hm any of the hard questions. Because they both look like fools shown next to a european journalist. Compare how many press conferences Blair has and how many Bush has. We could learn a lot from the europeans.

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d1k

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 08:41 AM

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Sorry Byrd I don't see how that is embarassing for the president. All I see is the US president trying to answer questions and the interviewer keep inturrupting him in the middle of his answeres.

koji_K

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by fawlty
Do you think Saddam would refuse giving Al-Qaeda WMD technology or money to buy needed materials, information or training? Saddam publicly gave money to palestinians to blow themselves up.

saddam would likely not have given money to al-qaeda. i could explain why, but this article does it much better than i could:

www.meadev.nic.in...

Foreign Policy is about planning for the future...its not just reactionary. Why did countries like France oppose war with Iraq? Not because of some high ideals, but because they were illegally dealing with Iraq and making a lot of money. No one out there is going to watch your back...

countries like france were also selling arms to iraq because america asked them to under the reagan administration.

-koji K.

E_T

posted on Jun, 26 2004 @ 09:57 AM

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Those replies are in same class as Finland's (dictator-like) ex-prime minister's... who promised full support for Bush's "war games", and would have wanted to hide that from people.

www.rationalrevolution.net...
www.opensecrets.org...
Any conflicts of interest? (or how it's said in english)

Ooopss:

Vice President Dick Cheney was, until last year, the CEO of Halliburton, the world’s largest oil field services company. Halliburton, through its European subsidiaries, sold spare parts to Iraq’s oil industry, despite U.N. sanctions.

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

And Bush's government have really much commonalities to "Nightwatch", "Ministry of peace" and those others in Babylon 5 serie.

Office of Global Communications
www.disinfopedia.org...

(and also Hitler, Stalin and communistic/all dictatures used/use this anti-alien/foreigner propaganda)

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."