I'm what I like to call a CALMIST (a non-alarmist), even though I believe in conspiracy theories.

Hello everyone!

My main interest in coming to this website after thinking about it for a while was the 9/11 forums. I lean towards the "truther" side but I want people to know that I am not an alarmist, rather a calmist. This comes after weighing both sides and deciding that

1) I do believe 9/11 was "fishy" and whether it was a conspiracy or simply incompetence by the Bush administration, I think the American people should question 9/11 because it very well could be a combination of both conspiracy and incompetence. Also, questioning anything is the quality of a free man, so if we are free Americans we better darn investigate it, otherwise it stinks of Nazi, Germany, I know you know what I mean.

However, I also believe that

2) The non-conspiracy theorists, for lack of a better term, who stick to the "official" story, have one thing going for them. While I do not believe in their story, I do however believe that we shouldn't all get paranoid about this.

So, as I said in my opening salvo, I am a Calmist, a non-alarmist if you will, in that I believe there is a conspiracy afoot, but I also believe we shouldn't lose our heads. Examples of losing our heads include

1.Stocking up on so much food that it goes bad before you have time to eat it.
2.Stocking up on gold when you still have bills to pay and other necessities to meet
3.Declaring war against society, a particular race, your neighbor, or family members (or yourself).

Rather, I think that we should be civil, lawful, and outlast our opponents, because after all, they are the ones under the gun, not us. It's incredible the amount of research that has been done on 9/11, and while I do not think certain war criminals will ever be brought to trial, I do think that society will change as a result of 9/11. It makes people think of government in an entirely different way, the nearest I can think of a comparison is George Orwell's 1984, but while 1984 is horrifying, it's only a book, whereas 9/11 was an actual event. So in that regard it is almost like a catalyst for a cultural revolution, maybe even a spiritual revolution.

To better explain how I came to these views, I'll tell you my story of how I came upon 9/11 theories.

It was 2008, a solid 7 years after the event itself, meaning I had been in the dark for 7 years before I finally stumbled upon movies such as 9/11 mysteries, Loose Change, Zeitgeist, etc. It all happened one day when my friend came over my house after his college class one day. He came in and he told me that 9/11 was set up by the government. My first response was

"No way, it would take too many people to pull it off."

I still remember that line whenever I hear someone else say it. Some people talk about where they were when 9/11 happened. I was sleeping, both literally and figuratively, so my story of where I was on 9/11 is not very interesting. However, I do remember the first thing I said when I heard that 9/11 was an inside job. I also remember the first thing I said when my friend and fraternity brother, and pledge class brother died in Iraq, but perhaps that is another story (though one that links to this story no doubt). But I digress, I told him it just couldn't be done. He then responded with:

"The structure of the building bla bla bla..." he went on and on, I'm sure he knew he was making sense, but to me it was in one ear out the other, I couldn't get it passed my mind that they would have the number of people necessary to make it an "inside job."

I was also thinking to myself that my friend, whom I knew believed in other conspiracy theories, like for example he thought he was actually living in a 1984 mentality, had some health problems and so I worried for his well being that he was dabbling in these conspiracy theories. This is why I suppose I want to be a Calmist and not an alarmist, because I feel like these conspiracy theories can push an already complicated person over the edge, and who knows maybe "they" want it to work that way.

So bottom line is, his words didn't do much for me, but he did introduce me to the documentary 9/11 mysteries and told me to watch them. Not one to shy away from knowledge, and considering myself a connoisseur of alternative theories, I watched and I learned. This goes to show that talking about 9/11 may not convince people, but showing them one of the many well thought out documentaries seems a little more professional than running into someone's house shouting that 9/11 was an inside job and we should all panic. Just saying...

So I watched 9/11 mysteries, then Loose Change, then Zeitgeist. At that point I started to become aware of the Ron Paul movement, and Alex Jones popped in here and there, but I really didn't start listening to Alex Jones until 2009-ish.

Now it's 2010, and what I see of America is a very divided nation. You have the "tea party" and the "liberal" party and both seem like they won't budge from their positions, and won't convince the other side, and who knows, maybe that is on purpose to distract the masses. A lot of my friends have no idea of 9/11 and/or no intention of knowing about it. Other than the previous friend I mentioned who got me going on the 9/11 conspiracy train, my other friends range from either

1. Aware of it, wanting to "do something" but quitting when they realize it takes too much to "do something." Sadly, they turned to alcohol, and even though they're in college and deserve to party down, I worry they've lost that fighting spirit.

or

2. They are aware of 9/11 theories, but believe they are just theories, ridiculous, ludicrous, preposterous, anything at all except true. They are usually "gate keepers" that try to steer other people away from it, calling it "hogwash" and "bunk."

3. The final section of my friends just have no idea about it. It's as bizarre to them as quantum science. Most of these people detest reading, almost to the point of bragging about how they've never completed a whole book in school before (and yet they're in college).

So, as you can see, my friends really aren't much of conversationalists when it comes to 9/11 conspiracy theories, which is why I decided to come and share my knowledge with the group here on ATS. This website seemed the most "in the know" and the amount of mindless trash is down to a minimum. One website I went to, you couldn't even say anything, because someone was always putting up some monkey-porn and bla bla-ing about how they hate Jews. Seriously, it was bad. I forget what it was called, the only good thing they had was a repetitive song with a lot of bass. But, if I wanted to hear music, I'd go to a bar, but I'm more interested in talking about some conspiracy theories!~

But, as a Calmist, not an alarmist. I'm sure no one tries to intentionally be an alarmist, but either way, I want to emphasize my calmist philosophy least someone call me an alarmist.

I guess this is the end of my story, and all that's rest is answering some questions about myself, or whatever goes on in these threads. My main view is that I think the American public should investigate 9/11, but at the same time, not to let the conspiracy theories get to their head, because I had a friend that was sort of too much into them, and I worry it is negatively effecting his health. I think that "they" want us to become paranoid over the secrecy and either think we are being targeted or generally be so overwhelmed with fear we don't want to go outside or go places for fear of being "watched."

Okay, that's my intro, hope you enjoyed it, sorry if it put some to sleep, and if you didn't read it all, well you probably won't get to this part so Blrrpppppppp!

you are on the right path

a lot of people here are alarmists or just crazy closed minded people (or paid closed minded)

reply to post by Faiol


Thanks, I wasn't sure what kind of responses I would get, I'm glad the first post was a positive one!

Yes, some people are closed minded, and I wonder if they are being paid to be so, it seems almost like that is the only explanation to be able to deny the political corruption. However, I do admire their ability to not panic or pretend not to panic in the face of a diabolical scheme, I guess my aim is to combine a non-denial of conspiracy theories with the ability to say "just relax, the sky is not falling."

Great post, I'm new here and it describes the way I feel very well. I have always been mild-mannered, even in times that most people freak out about (having no money, 9/11, car crashes, being robbed). There is no reason to lose control, and I think people like us will be the most calm during the times ahead- neither a clueless sheep or crazed alarmist screaming I told you so. We realize the truth, accept it, and the move on and prepare. No scawbbling or pointless arguing (that runs rampant on this site). I have managed to wake up two of my friends, but not by telling them everything I knew but by leading them there with a trail of "breadcrubs".

I do want to reach a friendly hand out because I didn't have anyone to talk to about these hidden truths either. I don't really get into the conversations much on here because they can devolve quickly, and when the SHTF nobody on here will be able to help me anyways so I better focus on those that can. I understand how you feel though, and if you ever want to share info or go on a friendly rant feel free to message me (no homo)

reply to post by Skerrako


Thanks for the response. I think it's a great idea to lead with "breadcrumbs" because I think the great part about conspiracy theories is figuring them out yourself, that way you play the role as the "Mulder" (X-files) character, the esoteric thinker who questions society. If someone gives you too much info, it takes all the fun out of it. Kind of like believing one story, and now believing another, without your own considerations. Or worse, you become too skeptical, a "Scully" and you doubt it's real.