Norse Vikings - Did they make it here a long time ago?

Hey folks,

Lately a lot of evidence has been popping up into my view that makes me wonder, did those vikings really make it this far into North America almost a thousand years ago?

Runestones have been popping up all over the central to eastern regions of the America along the large water ways that connect it to the ocean.

Giant skeletons with red hair are said to have been revealed in multiple locations throughout the regions as well.

Do we have any experts here with information that could help us understand this as absolute hoax or quite possible truth?

Are they hiding archaeological evidence from us so that they dont have to change the history books?

-G

reply to post by Gradius Maximus


I think it's more than just having to change history books. It is about control, and if a populace begins to wake up, connect the dots, then they will find out that some of us have been Americans for a long time, before America was The United States, before Columbus ever came. Who is running the show? Who is playing the game, that's the question you need to answer.

Because, let's be honest, if the truth came out, that vikings came here, and a great deal of them stayed, then, that would mean that there are other groups of peoples, not just the Federally recognized Tribes of Native Americans, that too were Native, and also, equally deserving of a claim to their land, and a piece of that Federal Pie.

I can see it now, a Viking Casino: "The Long Boats on The River"

reply to post by Gradius Maximus


Odd, I had thought that it was an accepted truth that the Vikings had made it to places such as Nova Scotia many years before Columbus. Is it actually still a matter of debate?

Here is some fodder for thought: VIKINGS IN THE NEW WORLD: OVERVIEW

reply to post by Gradius Maximus
There's no conspiracy about Vikings or Norsemen landing in the Americas. It's already an accepted fact due to the settlement at L'Anse aux Meadows.

Further investigation led Dr. Ingstad to Hungary and a private map collection where he located a copy of an original Icelandic map. On it was depicted a long, narrow strip of land marked Windlandia, and that bore a striking resemblance to the Great Northern Peninsula of Newfoundland. In 1960, while exploring terrain around a tiny community called L’Anse aux Meadows, Ingstad and his daughter met with a local named George Decker. He led the two Norwegians to a grassy meadow filled with outlines of what Ingstad was certain were ancient building foundations.

Between 1961 and 1968 the Ingstads and teams of archaeologists from Norway, Canada, Iceland, Sweden and the US studied the site. At first experts thought the foundations were that of an early Indian or Eskimo settlement. But soon many interesting discoveries were made that would corroborate Dr. Ingstad’s original theory. Out- lines of eight Viking “long houses” were unearthed. They had been built of turf, a common material for Norse dwellings. Further excavations revealed rusty nails, a soapstone spindle early Viking women used to twist fleece into yarn, a stone lamp, and a bronze pin discovered in a cooking pit. Lumps of slag were also unearthed, as well as a smithy complete with stone anvil and bits of iron. All of these artefacts were more than enough evidence to prove once and for all that Vikings had indeed settled on the coast of North America 500 years before Columbus.

www.essortment.com...

Edit to add.....

Giant skeletons with red hair are said to have been revealed in multiple locations throughout the regions as well.

The 'giant skeletons' are part hoax and part BS by people commonly seeking to lay claim to human history as a white man's achievement. It isn't always a white agenda. Sometimes it's due to fringe Hindus and Krishna believers trying to convince everyone that India is the cradle of every intelligent development in history. 'Red haired' claims are generally a feature of a racist minority who wet their pants at the idea that 'non whites' could build a wall on their own initiative.

my brother told me about a tv documentary, years ago, where scientists found this really old skull in America, and they were convinced it was european. but before they could test it. it was 'reclaimed' by the indians. ground up and put in a river.

can anyone remember that?

reply to post by Onet Wosix


Kennewick Man...5000 year old skeleton thought to show caucasian/european features, but the local tribes people for that area around Kennewick, WA claimed that the remnants was one of their ancestors and scientists haven't been able to analyze the remains sense.

This isnt about if they made it to the coastline.

This is a question of how extensively did the vikings make it into the Americas, how many of them, for how long?

A few settlements in Nova Scotia is not nearly as exciting as evidence of vikings settling in the Minnesota region, or who else can imagine where?

To what extent did they interact with the native americans I wonder?

reply to post by Onet Wosix


Actually, I remember that scientest were able to have it scanned to make a 3D replication of the skull, and take other samples and measurements before being ordered interred by the courts. So at least there is some data that was saved, but yeah, another anomoly buried.

www.cracked.com...

read the number one spot. i'm sure there are much, much more factual and informative citations i could have linked, but enjoy. cracked.com actually has really entertaining and fairly well researched lists, i try to check em out every coupla days.

Most likely they did. My American history book says they arrived here around the 1600s.
Kind of cool.

Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Most likely they did. My American history book says they arrived here around the 1600s.
Kind of cool.

way off, it was at least as far back as 1000 AD

Yes i also have read of this being true. In fact, in Maine somewhere there is a large stone slab with celtic or norse writing that is dated around 500 AD. Also I have read that either norse men or Irish men made it as far as the present day guadalajara region of mexico around pre 500 AD, which is why ancient mayan and aztec writings speak of a white 'god' like man who brought them great knowledge. Then nearly 1000 years later when the spainards arrived, the native people thought they were the 'great white god's' their scriptures mentioned, which is why they so openly accepted them. There is so many things that show this as being true, but I would have to refresh my memory to accurately detail them.

If your really interested in this stuff, I recommend you pick up a book called "In Quest Of The Great White Gods" by Robert Marx. It will blow your mind away, and make you look at your history books with a much more critical eye.

This is from a review of his book:

Ancient Egyptian statuettes have been found "under 10 feet of sand on a beach . . . in El Salvador," or so Marx reports. On an island off the coast of Maine are Celtic inscriptions on stone: "Cargo platforms for ships from Phoenicia." "A hoard of Roman jewelry" was discovered in a grave site near Mexico City, and the stonework of a ruin in Peru is thought to resemble "Etruscan polygonal walls."

reply to post by LifeIsEnergy


The problem with identifying anything from the ancient past, our mother earth takes it all back if its not made of stone, and even the stone cannot hold the test of time in some cases.

If you imagine our civilization 300,000 years ago, if we disspeared, how much would be left today?

Would a tank not turn to dust within 20,000 years?

Could plastic eating bacteria not form, consume all the plastic, then die leaving no plastic left?

We are talking about the life cycle of a planet that is billions of years old.

How many times could human beings have been here previous to our "Seeding" if you want to call it that.

What if the poles shift and the earth splits open beneith us, what would remain except for us, back to stone aged man?

With all of this taken into account, I find it hard to beleive vikings stopped at canada, I would believe even that white man made it all the way to mexico fairly easily and had relations with the locals.

This world is ancient, nothing is known for sure and TPTB surely do not want us knowing everything that has transpired.

As far as I know, this whole subject has been part of Canadian history since I was in elementary school (which admittedly is only like 15 or so years ago). We've got very viking houses on our east coast, in Newfoundland I believe. It's been pretty much accepted that it was Norsemen.

But then with the way our views on the world have been changing as of late, it's anyone's guess.

yes they did make it, but got their ass handed to them by the natives.

True enough. And I see know that this more about them being in even more varied locations then just that patch of Canada. So I may have been a bit hasty.

Originally posted by Vaykun
True enough. And I see know that this more about them being in even more varied locations then just that patch of Canada. So I may have been a bit hasty.

There was a butternut found at L'ans aux Meadows. They are not found north of New Brunswick. That is the only real evidence of Viking incursion anywhere other than "The Rock"

However...Red Bay, Labrador, may turn up evidence of pre-Columbian visits by the Basque. I visited both sites last summer and I remain overwhelmed by the stark beauty of the land..

Kennewick Man. is about 9,300 years old and may have been Clovis culture and not Indian at all.
en.wikipedia.org...

The Clovis people may have been of european origins and be of the Solutrean culture.
en.wikipedia.org...

The problem is the native americans go to court to recover any bones that may be Clovis before the DNA can be taken.

Its to the American Indian advantage that they are seen as first and not the Clovis people if they are of european origins.

The native Americans have a history of blocking any thing that might prove Clovis/Solutrean culture
en.wikipedia.org...
www.harbornet.com...
Its interesting that kennewick and East Wenatchee Clovis Site are close together.

other interesting skeletons likely to be clovis
spirit cave man and Wizard's Beach Man
www.cabrillo.edu...

Then you have the PEñON WOMAN
first-americans.blogspot.com...

And the Minnesota Woman
en.wikipedia.org...

www.stutzfamily.com...
www.sciforums.com...
anthropology.net...

I've read about the Viking Settlement in Nova Scotia (Link) and another one discovered in Mexico, but cannot find a references about the mexican one.

Pretty much everyone visited America before Columbus.

Here is a LINK to a website that lists finds of ancient artifacts and coins in the Americas.



Peace

Rock Ape

Originally posted by platipus
yes they did make it, but got their ass handed to them by the natives.

Is there anything to support this? I can't remember where but I believe I've heard that there was evidence to suggest that there was trade relations between the 2 people and not war.