Venezuela selling Uranium to Iran???

Hello ATS:

The country i live in,Venezuela, has been subject in the past 10 years to Human Rights investigations and other allegations,most recently, leads to Colombian paramilitary group FARC and the basque terrorists ETA. Chavez has been very open to Iran and has made quite a number of negotiations with them,but this one seems disturbing.

From:

"Chávez has been developing the program for two years with the collaboration of Iran, a nuclear rogue state. In addition to showing the two states' cooperation on nuclear research, these documents suggest that Venezuela is helping Iran obtain uranium and evade international sanctions, all steps that are apparent violations of the U.N. Security Council resolutions meant to forestall Iran's illegal nuclear weapons program"

www.foreignpolicy.com...


Please read the whole article.


Also,I'd like to say a few things that concern me:

I know some people here,specially those anti-Bush and anti-Obama LOVE Chavez because he defies them and stuff,but that man,is sick.Hes an autoritharian,he has divided my country in 2 groups: Chavistas and Opposition,political prisoners, ties to terrorists and other stuff. But also,hes mad into thinking that USA is Venezuela's enemy and want to bring him down when it seems that USA barely thinks about Vzla. Some other countries have not made alliances but actually just plain been taking advantage of Venezuela.

-Russia sold us weapons and military planes.
-China gave us money and cheap plastic crap in exchange for subsidized oil.
-Negotiations with Iran from Cars and other rather suspicious businesses
-We now supply Cuba with 50% of their oil supplies in exchange for....Doctors and Military troops that we can have access to in out very own country.


This worries me A LOT,given that Chavez has adopted Castro as a father figure,hes a very violent militay president that seems to HATE America. I can only think of the Cuban Missile Crisis during the Cold War. Please people,i'd appreciate your comments on this. Thanks

Iran, a nuclear rogue state

Pure propaganda.Iran is neither rogue nor nuclear.

First, the guy who wrote the article:

Roger Francisco Noriega (born 1959, Wichita, Kansas) is currently a visiting fellow at the conservative think tank American Enterprise Institute.

In 1996, Noriega co-authored the Helms-Burton law which tightened the 40-year-old embargo on Cuba.

As Assistant Secretary of State for Western Hemisphere Affairs under President George W. Bush, Ambassador Noriega was responsible for managing U.S. foreign policy and promoting U.S. interests in the region.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he was related to Manuel Noriega.


Secondly, the magazine:

Foreign Policy is a bimonthly American magazine founded in 1970 by Samuel P. Huntington and Warren Demian Manshel.

Samuel Phillips Huntington (April 18, 1927 – December 24, 2008) was an American political scientist who gained wider prominence through his Clash of Civilizations (1993, 1996) thesis of a post-Cold War new world order.

Warren Demian Manshel (1924–1990) was born in Germany and went to school with Henry Kissinger. [...] Manshel was also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.


nuff said, I bolded the parts that should be of particular concern,

Agreed on your thoughts about your President.

However, wouldn't it be the other way around?

(Iran sharing nuclear secrets with Venezuela)

And as for the direction Chavez has taken Venezuela, I'm not sure how old you are, and if you remember what it was like before, but this is a list of what Chavez had done up to 2005

18 Gains of the Venezuelan Revolution

1. Written a new constitution. Fifty percent of it was written directly by the population. It was put to a referendum and it won the support of 70% of voters. This constitution extended the democratic, social and human rights of the population far beyond the boundaries of a simple parliamentary democracy. The constitution calls for participatory democratic bodies of people to organise and implement new initiatives, such as the ones mentioned here.
   
2. Eradicated illiteracy according to United Nations standards.
   
3. Lowered the infant mortality rate.
   
4. Created 3000 new Bolivarian schools.
   
5. Brought in more than 1.5 million people into the education system free of charge.
   
6. Established a free university system aimed at the poor majority traditionally excluded from tertiary education (the poor receive free textbooks, free transport to university, free meals at university). Students and staff also work together democratically to create the curriculum.
   
7. Built more houses for the poor in two years than in the previous 20 years under the old governments.
   
8. Created access to fresh, clean and safe water for millions of people for the first time in their lives.
   
9. Re-distributed millions of hectares of unused, idle yet arable (agriculturally usable) land to landless poor people.
   
10. Renamed Columbus Day (Christopher Columbus the ‘explorer’) Invasion Day and are rebuilding the nations’ knowledge of real indigenous history and indigenous resistance.
    
11. Opened popular food markets which buy food from food cooperatives, it then gets sold in the popular food markets at 30% below the price of food in the big supermarket chain stores.
    
12. Opened 1000 free kitchens have been opened to provide free meals for people without homes.
    
13. Constructed a massive free healthcare system which now provides free healthcare for the first time in history to poor workers and unemployed people.
    
14. Struggled for and won back control of the gigantic oil industry (off corrupt executives and top management) which is now managed jointly by the government and the oil workers.
    
15. Increased taxes on corporations, and forced them to actually pay their taxes (McDonalds and Coca Cola were shutdown for three days as punishment for avoiding payment of their full tax bill).
    
16. Increased the minimum wage by 30% in 2004 (this was not the first increase since 1998). Government revenue from corporate taxes and oil sales have been used for many social programs and minimum wage increases.
    
17. Banned employers sacking workers (which was declared by the government in early 2003). This has been extended and continues, allowing the rapid growth of a strongly rank-and-file-active democratic trade union movement that is washing away the pro-boss unions.
    
18. Recognition of domestic work, extending permanent social security payments to people who do domestic labour (mainly women), none of this payment is taken away if their companion is in work.
    

reply to post by ghostsoldier


alright ghostsoldier here we go.See this is why i think people needs to live here to actually be informed.Hope you dont give me 20 achievements of the cuban revolution as well:

1-The constitution has been violated repeatedly with politics in jail and everything

2-The UN was a good blow

3-lowered the infant mortality rate but increased the adult mortality rate as well,and crime,and hospitals are crap.He denies money to governors of opposition states.

4-3000 bolivarian schools,good. Creating "child bolivarian circles" with "socialist" indoctrination.Also,the adult bolivarian circles and militias are going to receive military weaponry.And not exactly for the good of the people but for anyone that opposes the revolution

5-As i said, this whole "socialist" indoctrination has nothing to do with values but the militarized mentality and anti-empire speeches.Its very irrational.kids dont need or want to get involved in politics.

6-proffesional lawyers and whatnot that graduated in less than 2 years.Are they prepared?

7-It was a good project but guess what.Only 11 houses were made. thats ELEVEN.

8-Fresh clean water? theres people all around the barrios that don't receive water or electricity or security.the only water people are getting right now are the heavy rains destroying houses.

9-I got some pictures to show you how these "unused" lands look.I just don't know how to put em.

10-Thats good. but i think its time to get past living in huts and "palafitos" and get civilized.You can keep traditions without living in the jungle.

11-yes the popular supermarkets are a good thing.Except they blamed the private markets for hoarding all the food and it was the other way around. Google the PDVAL scandal

12-Haven't heard of these kitchens,though some people do this voluntarily.

13-Yes the free healthcare was a good idea.But the bad idea is giving Cuba oil for the cuban doctors that will vote here AND work in these free clinics. they are NOT good doctors(weird coming from cuba) and there are plenty Venezuelan doctors that could have used the job.

14-Well working in the Oil industry used to be a privilege.now everyone works there,and if you wear a red shirt youre practically in.Who cares about degrees and knowledge when you support the lieutenant colonel.Corruption off,hell yes good job.horrible management and believe me,it is still corrupt.Where are these profits?!

15-Yes good thing with the taxes.Now they pay higher taxes and the power outages too.

16-Social programs are abandoned.Minimum wage is a joke since prices and inflation are skyrocketing.

17-i dont understand what you mean my english gets weird sometimes

18-I can honestly say that i have never seen these domestic job payments.For real.

You can't just support anyone who is against America,and specially don't believe their official stories.Dig a bit.not all revolurionaries are good.They are mostly totalitarians and dictators. Im trying to promote this because im living in in. I applaud the anti-imperialism thing.but hes not doing what hes supposed to be doing.hes not helping the poor.Hes got this horrible cult of personality and brainwash of the population. You wanna see a good president? Go to Brazil with Lula da Silva. But Chavez is a joke. hes hungry for power.he has been corrupted. He is a hypocrit. Too bad the opposition is too....but 11 years of revolution have done nothing. Believe it or not.Please do NOT believe the official stories you hear. or read.



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