So The Antichrist Will Get To Work In 2012

It's pretty much a fact. Legitimate successor to Christ in ruling the world. As Jesus controls the heart and mind of humanity so the Antichrist will consolidate it's power, peoples, and philosophies. One could say that Jesus "set 'em up" so the Antichrist could "knock 'em down". Literally. According to certain prophesies his ambition is so great and the worldly stage will be changing so fast, there will be such a culmination of all types of energy that the many will die. Not only people but systems, all the old decayed and decadent structures will cease to have purpose when confronted by the Antichrist's God-given vision for the future 1000 years of humanity. And BTW, it's not the old God. The Antichrist's faith is a new faith and his God is a new God never before revealed to humanity. It is my belief that soon the ancient god of the bible will be achieving a promotion as Overseer to the solar system while Satan is promoted to Chief Maestro of planet Earth, not unlike God's old position - but Satan will of coarse bring him own unique flavor to ruling the earth. In essence, he has been ruling the earth for many years now but the title will be an official consecration.

To help him usher in the new reality for earth there will be an army/government/administration of 144,000 Lieutenants headed by his son and master creation, the Antichrist. Of coarse the Antichrist is to Satan what Jesus was to God so there will be many parallels between them. Antichrist will have 12 disciples as an inner circle, he will be an intellectual-combat-occult-historical genius with as much knowledge of humanity since the time of Christ as Christ was knowledgeable of the scriptures and creations of God before he started his work in the world. Early on there will be a problem of identity for our new savior, just like the old one. His first conquest will be one of self, in finding out his true identity and heritage. He will later spend all his time in arduous study of humanity under Satan's influence. And afterward he will set out in the world to claim what is rightfully his, destroying beautifully, commanding kings, and laying the foundation for a thousand year empire. Unlike Christ he will not minister for a short period of time and be crucified. This is because his purpose to humanity is different than Christ. Christ taught how to rise above our animal instincts into divine beings, to prove his selflessness and identity as one manifested of love and understanding God sent the devil to tempt him with the kingdoms of the world, a test he passed of course. His death signified his ultimate triumph.

Similarly the Antichrist is unable to fail in his mission. It is already history. It is his destiny and birthright. He is the embodiment of man in their present state and vision of man as Supermen and Superwomen. As Ubermensch. As the genuine returning to the spiritual force of the earth, the demiurge that resides in the realm beyond good and evil... A goal Hitler only dreamed of attaining with his Reich. I admit Hitler was a preview to the Antichrist and heavily controlled by Satan but the problem was Hitler was a very imperfect human being. To create the impetus necessary for a complete restructuring of the world there needs to the perfection at the core of the movement. Hitler was not this, he was a failed artist and possibility the result of two generations of incest. Perhaps he is the John the Baptist of the Antichrist. They were both pretty weird anyway, overdrawn, and lacked a subtlety of perfection that Jesus had and the one to come will also have.

Similar to Oedipus, the Antichrist will solve a riddle to redeem an entire population. He will solve the problem of Israel/Palestine/Iran to bring peace to the middle-east. One could say God placed a Sphinx in the middle-east to torment them, for even if Israel is the stronger they are tortured nonetheless, and as prophesied the one to solve this will be the Antichrist. He will bring to unity all the paradoxes, all of the uncertainties, all the polarizing factors of the modern world. He will transition the entire planet through sheer will into the age of a thousand years peace, a marriage between the bride and bridegroom, to herald the coming of unspeakable great ages to the human race, ages of true enlightenment. Although like any transition it will most certainly not be bloodless, easy, or uncomplicated. The Antichrist will suffer as will humanity. But ultimately everything works out and history will end. God and man, good and evil will be reconciled. We will be free to be as Gods. We will live in harmony.

To tell the truth, humanity will not be ready for this transition that is in any case inevitable due to divine plans. The only reason it has to be bloody in parts, cruel in parts, apocalyptic in parts, is because in all instances the old is terrified by the new and seeks to perpetuate itself in its stagnation/degeneration when it senses it's time for death. When on the road to enlightenment, the ego will defend itself using whatever methods it knows how, attempting to have "you" identify completely with "it" and eliminating all of an individual's capacity to see beyond themselves and their desires. The same is going to be true on a macro level. The ego in trying to save itself will label what it doesn't want to accept, the new, as evil. "If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us." - Hermann Hesse
Therefore it is exactly those things we label evil that are parts of our unexplored self that we don't wish to find. They are the monsters of the unconscious that entrap us in our own fear. They are the reasons many would rather perish than accept a new way of life. And unfortunately the reason why the primary means to put the old world to rest in favor of the new world, will be violence. But as the scriptures say it is an enlightened violence, a beautiful wonderful destruction. For 3 and a half years there will be a terribly beautiful mixing between the old and new, the animal instincts and divine sparks. The interstices of which might be the most exciting times in human history.

The antichrist is coming, of that I have no doubt. All one has to do is look at the pattern of things in the past 30 years, watch how fast society is changing towards the 2012 date and take the progression of the ages seriously. Watch the trends in the news media and the way people think (paying close attention to irrational thoughts en mass or inflated / backward thinking) in order to get a feel for how people are being manipulated and prepared.

From reading and putting together the Bible, Revelations, Nostradamus and knowing a bit about the religion behind the other world religions and a bit of intuition, I am going to differ on your opinion about the next 1000 years. The anti-christ's reign will probably last about 30 years, and it will not be as golden as everyone (predictably at this moment in time, since he has to rise and be supported) thinks Satan is. This particular theme, that Satan is wonderful, is definitely in accordance with the time period. It is interesting how it arrived just on time, and how society changed itself just on time, to me that makes other prophecies that much more reliable.

However, Satan's rule will not be wonderful. It will probably be about enslaving the population and taking away freedom to think for oneself. The antichrist will be able to get away with a lot of horrible atrocities that his followers will praise as wonderful, even while they condemn the groupthink that caused Christ's followers to do similar things and use that for justification for their atrocities (which makes no sense, since this is illogical that means it will in the following time period be used against their philosophy).

HOWEVER, all one needs to do is look at the newest generation of college-age students to realize that they are being prepared to be a slave race that does no critical thinking or thinking of their own and follows orders unquestionably, without understanding the workings enough to realize they are being tricked. This does not mean the generation after them, or the one after that, will be groomed this way. They will probably naturally become groomed to destroy the reign of the antichrist, and think for themselves.

At any rate, assuming that the antichrist does show up, this also brings into question the reality of the afterlife, souls and such. Isn't it the greatest atrocity of all to mess with an entity's eternal life and freedom?

Continuing on, to me, everything is pointing to the antichrist playing a role he has set out to play. It will be an interesting ride, if one has the freedom to look at it that way during the evil and suppressive time period. Like the OP said, it is already written in history. The antichrist will fall after 30 years. Remember that if the reader of this ever needs hope for the future.

It is pretty simple how the fall will occur. The new philosophy will not be sustainable, and will not be what it seems to be. In other words, it will be a lie. The lie will not be able to last forever, but in order to enforce it, the antichrist will need to use POWER to force people to believe things contrary to their nature and the nature of the universe with fear. All of the energy taken to force people to his unnatural viewpoint, and the corruption in his own system, will eventually lead to a failed state. Not only will the antichrist be attacked from within his own organization by other evil beings wishing to take power for themselves, his own Kingdom will begin to decay as there will not be enough resources to hold it together.

At this point, many atrocities will come to light and then it will be a simple matter of people fighting for freedom, justice and truth grouping together to take out their evil oppressors. At this point, it is likely that no one will support the antichrist on the inside, but will not believe it possible to take down his organization.

But it is written. There will be war, and that is when a new ruler and philosophy, not Satan's, will rule the next 1000 years and the truth will come out about how the antichrist's atrocities made him and his philosophy evil.

reply to post by darkbake

But it is written. There will be war, and that is when a new ruler and philosophy, not Satan's, will rule the next 1000 years and the truth will come out about how the antichrist's atrocities made him and his philosophy evil.

Here you have succumbed to a fantasy perpetuated by the bible. It is a series of play on words and double meanings actually. The "antichrist" is just a reference point for Christians, a vague intimation towards an uncertain future. The religion of Christianity won't exist in the future. Neither will God or the Satan, as we know them. Neither will Good or Evil, as we know them. What is being extinguished with the old forms are our perceptions of these forces. Your post reeks of these outdated perceptions. Like you have never read about modern psychology, that these are simply symbols for an unexplored and child-like psyche.

Going into this new age the old God becomes a different god, akin to a promotion. The old Satan becomes a different entity also with a new name. Similar to the 144000 who sing the new song and have the new name of god written on their foreheads. So too does the Antichrist worship a new god known as the god of forces (or however you want to translate it, it is still NEW), so too does he usher in a new government and completelly new reality.

Because of all these new developments the bible is little able to describe in much clarity what is to come. The writers were imperfect mediums lacking much. The words were too narrow to describe the indescribable. On top of that it is filled with symbolic language, plays on words, and to take it literally is a grievous mistake as it is not even meant to be understood like that.

In the realm of mythology, Christ and Antichrist are twins who arrive on earth from the same source, one yin the other yang. Two aspects of the whole of the creator, one does not deserve more of a bias than the other. Both are equally important in terms of understanding. Both good and evil are eternal forces that one should rise above and not succumb to. Many people, mainly Christians, succumb to the good thinking they are righteous. When in fact, to succumb to good is the same action in reality as succumbing to evil. One has to exist beyond these things as a whole.

reply to post by AProphet1233


You have also done the same. Fantasizing about a philosophy that would pertain towards the macro of the ego. The ego itself is need to be "watched"...this "new and old" thing you're talking about is nothing but old news. It's like when you go to the supermarket, how do you know if the boxes of cereal labeled organic is really organic or made with other ingredients that the FDA says IS organic? The future, speaking of 2012, is to be watched, just like with our ego. To be a master, you must be a slave and to be a slave, you must be a master...OF YOURSELF. The Yin and yang.

And from there, whoever this antichrist is, he will know that his plans are going to fail. Deep down in his intermost ambitions to change the world for the better, it will fail. Why? Because even Jesus Christ denied it in his 40 days in the desert (if you believe the story or not, think if you were in the desert without food, your inner voice will tell you such things and thats the fact), his ego was the manifested devil that was trying to get Jesus to bow down to him. God isn't the G-O-D that you might talk about, it is the energy that created this world. It is what scientists are looking for, the inside of an atom. Did they find it, yet? Who knows...

But sooner or later, (if the reader could understand this because you can't, no matter how many sources you show, YOU can't reason the logic of the creator, it manifests from within and stays hidden) this world will face a huge change and the politicians will believe that their ruling is right and as they strip down the freedom (rights)of what we have, they don't realize that the macro ego is winning. It wants to be the master over the human slaves. The reason why it isn't fully in power is the Ying and Yang scenario, some people believe in some faith and some just are ignorant/arrogant. Once it finds its way out of the balance, it will take over and it will do whatever it wants: enslave, worldwide holocaust, paradise on earth etc....therefore don't bow down, don't give in, and just watch because the creator created us with the balance of inner knowing, intuition, and you'll know when to make the right decision. Just have faith.

It's like what this one guy said (forgot where and who; Good though): "Just as in the beginning, so is the end."
Now take that and notice how human beings are born with light (in the head) and die.........have fun

Please.

Religion is already corrupting this world very badly.

If something comes and disproves all religion it would be a true blessing.

It's not the Antichrist that you have to worry about destroying everything.

It's the religious nuts of all faiths who think everybody should believe exactly what they believe that are already destroying things.

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In the end the Antichrist will not win, it is a done deal he will lose!

Originally posted by DARKCYDE_CROWLEY
Please.

Religion is already corrupting this world very badly.

If something comes and disproves all religion it would be a true blessing.

It's not the Antichrist that you have to worry about destroying everything.

It's the religious nuts of all faiths who think everybody should believe exactly what they believe that are already destroying things.

You may have just outted the antichrist!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by AProphet1233
It's pretty much a fact.

I'm interested to understand how you came to the conclusion that anything you posted can be deemed a fact. It all read that opinion to me, but again, I'm interested in understanding your process. Thank you.

Originally posted by DARKCYDE_CROWLEY

It's the religious nuts of all faiths who think everybody should believe exactly what they believe that are already destroying things.

I agree...it's the:

E-E-E-E-E-GO!

Ego needs security (hence religion) of all things and in some, it wants more and all of it.

Originally posted by slinger
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In the end the Antichrist will not win, it is a done deal he will lose!

Pffft.
That's like saying a certain football team will win because they said so.

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by slinger
reply to post by adkchamp

 

In the end the Antichrist will not win, it is a done deal he will lose!

Pffft.
That's like saying a certain football team will win because they said so.

Did'nt win the first time what makes you think he will this time! pffff

I think your story is fabulous if I were on the "wrong" side of this coming War! Where is Christ in your assessments? You have removed him because in this Story Christ had his moment now it is the A/C's turn for 1000 years. That is not the real Story that the rest of the Universe openly knows. So it is doctored at best and most likely for the sake of capturing all the Minions who will think there is a new World with a new God, with a new Religion! It is the False Story behind the Truth if Christ is not part of the equation.

A delicious story if you are influenced by such evil intents, a tasty morsel filled with Souls upon Souls.

No Thanks!

Originally posted by slinger
Did'nt win the first time what makes you think he will this time! pffff

Practise makes perfect.

Originally posted by hippomchippo

Originally posted by slinger
Did'nt win the first time what makes you think he will this time! pffff

Practise makes perfect.

Thats funny dont care who you are !

Greetings my friend,

I see you have fans already. This is good. At least someone is paying attention, even if they do not have the same view. This whole Christ/AntiChrist thing has been bugging me for sometime now. I think it a rather narrow view to assume that any savior or anti savior would be so restricted as to come from one faith, and one faith only. How egotistical can Man get than to think his world view contains the sole kernal of truth while ignoring the whole cob. It makes one shake their head in dismay.

Truth is, many many religions and traditions around the world are anticipating a coming of a new age. It is a story as old as Man himself. It is a natural cycle of events. Any wiseman of a bush dwelling tribe can look to the magnificence of the constellations above him, and know that all things have their season. Christians presume they are the keeper of some great and immortal secret when all they possess is a battle plan carved out by man, nay by Men who had the foresight to see the coming of the obvious. Jesus Christ himself knew the part he played. Humble as he was he knew that even him could not stop the rising tide of evil he faced at his time. His death was a symbol of a time not yet come. A prophecy, one of many, of the day when that time should come, how to prepare for it. Yes, there is a Satan and it dwelt with Christ, even within him. Peer through the allegorical tale and you see a Man a mortal man who fought the same demons which confront us all. Yet, he persevered. He did not refuse the earthly Kingdom, he reclaimed his own. He shook off his shackles of serfdom and stood level with the world. He was eye to eye with the Priests that persecuted him, and with the Roman authorities that had him slain. He died, but he died a King.

The anti Christ has had dominion on this Earth since Mankind stood up to walk upon it. It has grown in strength and in numbers. It is Man, and his unwilligness to hold himself accountable for his own free will. The Anti Christ is LEGION, spread out on this earth numbering 6,660,000,000 strong and counting. It resides in each and everyone of our hearts, tempting us with his trinkets, begging us to partake in his sickly reign, wooing us with his false love, love of money, fame, and fortune. What ever scrap of these things he is willing to give us we will gladly trade our very own soul for. We starve our Brothers around the world that we may be but one step further up the food chain than their miserable selves. We sell out our family for blind devotion to his unholy Empire of Nationalism, Racism, Fundamentalism, and Egotism. We sacrifice our own young at his alter of selfishness, denying even those innocent souls knowledge of their own God given free will. We are in his Hell, and we are deserving of our punishment because we will not give back those evil things he bestowed upon us. Sick and wretched we have made this world and we done so all at his command. The blood of our Brothers and sisters has stained the soul of every scrap of creation. Every living hand is washed in blood for not one has taken the road to self sacrifice needed to bring about heaven on this world given us by God. So pathetic it has become that Man has begun to rationalise God completely out of the picture. Fools! You curse religion not seeing that it is the creation and direct proof of the evil that is Satan.

A new age is coming. Yes, a savior is coming. Yes it is coming to throw down these havens of hell, these Empires of Evil. The trumpets are sounding! If you bury your head in the sand waiting on this Christ to come save you, you will not be saved. The time has come for Man to stand and save himself. God gave us all free will, it is time to use it to reclaim our earthly Kingdom. The time has come for us to assume the awesome responsibility of being our own Kings. The time has come to recognise that we each have this divine right.

We are our own savior. We are our final prophet, We are Sons and Daughters of God.

If no other Man has the courage to say it, let him be damned, but for me, with the courage that surges through my veins I swear this by God:

I AM
KING

And I am taking my Kingdom back!

I am the Son of God
I am the Son of Man

Who will stand and proclaim it with me? Is there not one?

Judge not, Love all, Be at peace

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by Greensage


You have to expand your horizons Greensage!

I would hate to see such a wonderful person as yourself marginalized for the next millennium simply because the banal atmosphere didn't suit your delicate tastes. Just try it once and see how much you like it. First time is on the house. I promise, you won't regret it.

Edit - and by millennium I mean in terms of reincarnation/the archetype you represent. Hehe.

Also, I have paid my dues already to the "Christ camp". I know the man as well as any other contemporary historian or artist concerned with that subject. This is just to say that I have reverence for the past. But there comes a time when one must wake up from the nightmare of decaying corpses and look to the future.

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I really have nothing else to add to this thread after that... well done.

Edit - Just want to add that if the Antichrist did come at some point in the future there would be dual meaning to his existence like that of Christ. Jesus was Jewish, the prophesied savior of a certain group of people yet at the same time a savior for all of humanity despite his parents, upbringing, or cultural origins. Hence the importance of the label "Son of man". The macro importance of this title refers to him being the embodiment of the entire spirit, the hopes and dreams and future, of his age.

In the same way there is Hitler from recent history. Very different from Christ, yes. I am not comparing the two in any way. But it is true that Hitler was the manifestation of something. Him and the Nazis were symbolic of the latent evil impulses inside every one of us. That men can blindly follow orders to commit obscene atrocities. That ideology can so corrupt a person's soul. That the modern perspective of life can so justify evil and violate the human spirit... Since then the very definitions of humanity have changed drastically. Hitler was the defining point in history where humanity transitioned from God's world (albeit by certain awkward justifications) to Satan's world (a world of human ______)

Anyway, for the future manifestation of an age there needs to be something/someone to unite all the different perspectives of what it means to be human. Indeed it must unite the good with the evils ince both are inexplicable forces. What this person would look like is anyone's guess. We aren't used to the idea of our heroes having personalities that span the entire range of good and evil. Most people settle on one or the other. Eventually though one must rise above both and the very terms "good" and "evil" should be done away with.

The antichrist is only going to reign for 3.5 years or 1335 days.

Rev 12:12...because he knoweth he hath but a short time.
(ironic that verse is 12:12 too)

Revelation 17:10
And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

The one that IS is Jesus Christ. The one that's coming is the antichrist he shall fall too.

Originally posted by AProphet1233
Eventually though one must rise above both and the very terms "good" and "evil" should be done away with.

Precisely my friend. Since joining this forum I have been trying to get people to open their eyes to this false ideal. There is no "Good" or "Evil". What we perceive as good are those things which benefit ourselves, personally. This is a false ideal, for in order to benefit ourselves, it must come at a cost to someone else. Thus, by our own good, we create the evil we perceive else where.

Would a thief be a theif if you gave your Brother what he needed willingly out of love? NO

Would a murderer seek to murder if all gave him love from the day he was born? NO

Would a child molester be a child molester if he himself was not so molested as a child? NO

No man knows what horrors have brought another man to the point of him committing "Evil". What we do know, is we have sat by and allowed the society to become so depraved that it drives people to evil.

Balance is needed. We can cure each other of these things. WE MUST!

It is our divine charge. We are all good, regardless of what judgement we cast at each other. Stop judging and start healing.

Even your harsh childhood my Brother, what pain drove your father to his own evil? Had he a better life, who knows what wonderful things he would have given this world. The same with all Man.

Judge not, Love All, be at peace.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by iamnot


Just admit you have no clue what it all means. You read a biased Christian interpretation of the Book of Revelations. Simply put, you don't speak the language and are heavily indoctrinated. Peace be upon you. Go away now.