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The burning of the Quran on the 11th, and something you should know.

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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:09 AM
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The people who are for the Quran burning definitely have the right to do so, burn ten if you want. But I have to say You all look like a bunch of ignorant pricks. There's no reason for the hate of Islam in the first place. Basically, we used to be their good buddies back in the day, back when we benefited off of them while giving them weapons to fight the Russians. Back then, the leverage that the propaganda had against us isn't much different then the same tactics they use today to make us fear the -insert different culture here- Because they're everywhere and they have #-tons of -insert weapon here- They will -insert verb here- your family and your fellow citizen because they absolutely hate you and the fact that your an American, and by god -insert a god here..wait no, only Jesus- we will put -insert drastic minimization of your freedom here- in place to protect you from -insert "imminent danger" here- And you'd better be #ing terrified because they're attacking tomorrow, or this week, or..just stay alert at all times citizen.
That sums up the past 9 years, and most of our wars. Do you realize how easily people buy into it? The fear that Americans have felt because of what we were being told, and the propaganda and constant reassuring that what they are doing is patriotic and right was the same spiel the German people got before going third Reich on Europe's ass. Iran could be to America what Poland was to Germany. And we'd have Iran from all sides, right out of Hitlers play book
The same people who have backed our current war time and time again are the same one's who don't actively speak against hate and sometime encourage hate against Muslims.

Please rethink your hate for another religion just because there's a very small minority of them who would love to kill you. The reason why some of them kill our soldiers is because we're occupying their countries and killing a lot of civilians in the cross fire, and sometimes deliberately. That doesn't mean their culture is based on terrorism. Would you not do the same if we were invaded? I think the better thing to do this 11th would be to donate some money for the victims of the flooding in Pakistan. Show some damn respect for other cultures. This world is a lot more than just America.

edit for grammar.


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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:17 AM
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Originally posted by patent98310
The people who are for the Quran burning definitely have the right to do so, burn ten if you want. But I have to say You all look like a bunch of ignorant pricks.


tl;dr - the quote above sets the tone, and I'm sure no opinion, argument, or discussion will avert your claim

Ignorant pricks.. Bet you get stars..

And I will edit to add-

Do I agree with this burning? Yes. Why? Because WHY not.

When people hated christians for fun, we hd pisschrist. Those twits have suffered far worse than this prissy little religion. And for longer, at the hands of those in the west. Do I think it's a good idea?

No. Not for them nor anyone else. Offence for the sake of it, is stupid. BUT hey, its life.

So, bag on xtians, oh the fun we had.... bag on islam, OH SHAME ON YOU!!

Pfft.

Did you hear the one about the zoroastrian? Couldn't light a fire in an inferno.. With a zippo!

*Boom boom*

No outrage, I guess they're just fire worshipping pacifists..







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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:28 AM
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Yes the first sentence of this thread makes it irrelevant. Don't read it, it's not good for you to consume. Sorry that you can't read past "pricks". I'll keep it PG from now on.

edit to add: I don't bag on Christians. I bag on the Dogmatic nature of Christianity in America.




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posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by patent98310

edit for grammar.



i got to the end and i got a chuckle from that last line, for some reason.

tolerance good

ignorant something bad



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:34 AM
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Originally posted by badw0lf

Did you hear the one about the zoroastrian? Couldn't light a fire in an inferno.. With a zippo!

*Boom boom*


ha ha. that is funny. et likes funny.

edit out the *Boom boom* and put this there instead:



edit on 10-9-2010 by Esoteric Teacher because: add: ha ha. that is funny. et likes funny.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:42 AM
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I love it! Typical ATS replies. All smearing and joking that amounts to a circlejerk, yet no thought put into writing an apposing ideal to validate ones opinion.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by patent98310
The people who are for the Quran burning definitely have the right to do so, burn ten if you want. But I have to say You all look like a bunch of ignorant pricks.

I stopped reading your post at this point. If you had something contructive to say or a way to impart some kind of wisdom or new thoughts on it then you would have not needed to insult people.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:53 AM
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Interpol wouldn't have to put out a severe warning of threats of violence to 188 countries if it were just a few muslims.

They started the party before the book was even warm.
www.bbc.co.uk...

Religion of peace. Put up or shut up.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:53 AM
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I wish the US would pull all of the troops out of all middle eastern countries as well as any aid and get off oil,we have the technology to do so. We should also QUIT SUBSIDISING AFGHANI POPPY FARMERS. We really have to attend to the beam in our own eye and let our neighbors attend to the splinter in theirs.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:57 AM
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Begining a post by calling folks ignorant pricks, makes you what?????

People have the right to their opinions, this site is full of folks giving them away. As of now, I know 2 pricks on here, one is oozy the hatemonger, and now you have just added to the list.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 02:59 AM
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The hate is ALREADY there, threatening to erupt. This dude in Florida is just an excuse.
Again, in video above, you see they got the party started early.

He threatens to burn their book, they burn US flag and an effigy of HIM.

Oh, but let's protect and coddle them. Yeah, let's just denigrate the preacher dude.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 03:13 AM
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Yes lets also coddle ignorance. It's the American way since 2001.
I could care less if they burn the American flag. I could care less if you burnt a Quran.I'm not coddling those who are burning the American flag and images of the preacher, I can't speak in Arabic to let them know they also look like a bunch of ignorant people. I would like for Muslims to realize that Americans like you make up a very small part of our country and that we all don't think like you. And I would like for Americans to realize that the Muslim religion doesn't equal extremist suicide bombing hijackers.

The whole point of my thread - if you happened to wade through it after that crucial first sentence - Is that the hate Americans are stirring up against Muslims is likely to cause some #ty stuff to happen down the road. What I find perplexing is that the biggest sources of hate and propaganda in this country are behind labeling the peaceful and logical ones as hateful socialist Nazis that should burn in hell.

But you probably didn't read past:"Yes lets also coddle ignorance. It's the American way since 2001."



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 03:17 AM
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Originally posted by space cadet
Begining a post by calling folks ignorant pricks, makes you what?????

People have the right to their opinions, this site is full of folks giving them away. As of now, I know 2 pricks on here, one is oozy the hatemonger, and now you have just added to the list.



Very big contradiction there.
I believe my first sentence was also correct. Some may think people look like pricks for condemning a religion and burning their holy book because of ignorance of Islam in the first place.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 03:24 AM
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I really think that you are the one not paying attention or reading.

I'm saying it's gonna happen anyway.
It HAS happened.
How many died over a cartoon?
How many died over a teacher naming a teddy bear the 'wrong' thing?

www.newsok.com...

I usually don't like Michele Malkin but that's a good article, full of reminders.
I'd forgot all about them threatening Claudia Sheiffer with death because she wore a dress that offended them. I didn't even KNOW about the Burger King or Nike incidents.

It's about a clash of civilizations. It might be a nut job that brings the festering sore to a head, but he's NOT the one that caused the infection. You've got a very basic clash of values. Free expression vrs my way or the highway.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 03:29 AM
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THIS is what earned this gorgeous woman DEATH threats. Heck, she was just a model doing her job.




posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 03:50 AM
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Yes, the people who did that are #ing nuts. So that justifies condemning Muslims?
What is your suggestion for handling the Muslims then, if they're all insane fundamentalists? Hmm, let's put a crescent moon and star patch over their left breast so we can tell the terrorists from Americans. Those Muslims are a bunch of worthless dogs huh?
Do you also hate American born Muslims? And go ahead, reference Ft. Hood and Nidal Malik Hasan. But also reference all the school shootings in American history compared to all the terror attacks carried out by Muslims. Don't forget Joseph Stack, James Earl Ray, THIS , Bill Ayers, Eric Rudolph. The list goes on.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 04:06 AM
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Just know that all this hate is taking us in a very bad direction. Learn to differentiate between Muslims and terrorists; They are not one in the same. I think the only way for you to truly understand is to suffer through terrorist attacks from your own people over and over. Then live through being associated with that terrorism because of your religion. How would you feel if another country ripped through America, blowing # up and killing off your family and friends, And when you decided to fight back you were labeled as the bad one. All because some lunatic fringe decided to gather under their version of your religion and attack a populated city in another country? We could just as easily be labeled the terrorists if some Christian-fringe group planned out such an attack on foreign grounds.

I'm done with this thread. It's like arguing with a bunch of 13 year olds with ADD.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 04:10 AM
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You're the only one saying THAT. I haven't heard a SOUL state that they felt that all muslims were terrorists.

I've only heard people say they are sick and tired of the ones that are.



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 04:20 AM
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Originally posted by patent98310
The people who are for the Quran burning definitely have the right to do so, burn ten if you want. But I have to say You all look like a bunch of ignorant pricks. There's no reason for the hate of Islam in the first place.


I agree with you OP but I would have said "ignorant dupes".

"The objective is to sustain the illusion that "America is under attack" and that Muslims across the land are complicit and supportive of "Islamic terrorism".

The demonization of Muslims sustains a global military agenda. Under the American inquisition, Washington has a self-proclaimed holy mandate to extirpate Islam and "spread democracy" throughout the world.

What we are dealing with is an outright and blind acceptance of the structures of power and political authority. America's holy crusade against the Muslim World is an outright criminal act directed against millions of people. It is a war of economic conquest."

www.globalresearch.ca...



posted on Sep, 10 2010 @ 04:40 AM
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I've said it in another post, I shall say again: Don't just burn the Qur'ran.
Burn the Bible, the Book of Mormon, Dianetics, books by John Steinbeck, flags, used KFC Buckets...

Why?
None of it means anything. They are all paper and ink or cloth and ink. They all promote bad things which we should all just move on from. In today's day and age though-it wont be possible to annihilate all those Grapes of Wrath books *shudder*.

The ideas they promote will remain, people will get their panties bunched up and wedged in any crack they can over this and then: it will go away. As the Christian Cross Bearers squeal every year that evil people are trying to destroy Christmas... Contention, religious martyrdom and provocational porn is the life bread of these people.

I think it would be so nice to just toss them in the bonfire too. But then, I am not Christian so I consider such things wrong. I am an educated individual which means I agree with the right to burn any such book by an individual whether I like the meaning of it or not. I support gay marriage because I do not have the right to limit others. I support "socialized medicine" because I think my tax dollars are better used saving lives than going after people across the world so more business owners can gather more dynastic wealth. I support "socialized education" because a smart citizenry is a powerful one.

Any rational and intelligent individual fights for the rights of all. Like dominos: once they start falling you run out of friends. On the one hand we have to support the right to burn the stupid things, on the other we must not hesitate to put bullets through the heads of Christian terrorists who are targeting taxi drivers who profess Islam, or mosque burners.

This all has to do with doing the right thing BECAUSE it is the right thing.
Thats the only way it can be really.




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