Mayan Elders view of 5-6 hrs before 2012 and just after, page 3

Great thread OP, thanks for the link and info.

Ignore the 'debunkers' that criticize ideas because they cost money... these people have obviously never considered writing as a job.

If you want to change the world, you have to do it within the capitalist structure.

Bob Marley charged money for records and concerts. The Beatles charged money for records and concerts.

It is the same for someone who wants to change the world through ideas and information in writing and books.

If you commit to changing the world full time, you have to figure out how to survive within the money construct.

I plan to charge money for my next book, but that doesn't mean I am a fraud.

I believe wholeheartedly in what I convey in my writings - and I want to expose a larger audience to those ideas because I believe it will be beneficial to society as a whole.

I don't want to be rich, but I have to survive. In this way, capitalism strips society of thinkers, because a person cannot just be a full time 'thinker' without creating some product from that time spent thinking. But that is a whole 'nother subject, and I digress.

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OP, I suggest taking a look at Theosophy - because it is uncanny how much of the secret societies conspiracies, 'new age' thinking, metaphysics, and 2012 theories has been described in full by Blavatsky and others over a hundred years ago... and most of the sources Blavatsky bases her ideas on are thousands of years old.

The link above allows you to search a large database of Theosophical books and articles.

Just a quick example, I just searched for the word 'polar' in The Secret Doctrine Volume II (1888). I recommend going to the link for yourself, as there is an incredibly dense amount of context before and after these small quotes:

Does the Western Kabalist — generally an opponent of the Eastern Occultist — require a proof? Let him open Eliphas Levi's Histoire de la Magic," p. 53, and carefully examine his "Grand Symbole Kabalistique" of the Zohar. He will find, on the engraving given, a white man standing erect and a black woman upside down, i.e., standing on her head, her legs passing under the extended arms of the male figure, and protruding behind his shoulders, while their hands join at an angle on each side. Eliphas Levi makes of it, God and Nature; or God, "light," mirrored inversely in "Nature and Matter," darkness. Kabalistically and symbolically he is right; but only so far as emblematical cosmogony goes.

Nor has he invented the symbol any more than the Kabalists have: the two figures in white and black stone have existed in the temples of Egypt from time immemorial — agreeably to tradition; and historically — ever since the day of King Cambyses, who personally saw them. Therefore the symbol must have been in existence since nearly 2,500 years ago. This, at the very least, for that Persian sovereign, who was a son of Cyrus the Great, succeeded his father in the year 529 B.C. These figures were the two Kabiri personifying the opposite poles.

Herodotus (Thalia, No. 77) tells posterity that when Cambyses entered the temple of the Kabirim, he went into an inextinguishable fit of laughter, on perceiving what he thought a man erect and a woman standing on the top of her head before him. These were the poles, however, whose symbol was intended to commemorate "the passing of the original North Pole of the Earth to the South Pole of the Heaven," as perceived by Mackey.* But they represented also the poles inverted, in consequence of the great inclination of the axis, bringing each time as a result the displacement of the Oceans, the submersion of the polar lands, and the consequent upheaval of new continents in the equatorial regions, and vice versa. These Kabirim were the "Deluge" gods.

Also, if you are not already familiar with David Wilcock, I recommend taking a look at some of his free books on his website Divine Cosmos, as he (among others) also has a positive view of 2012 and some very interesting scientific theories about the whole shabang. He especially talks about the geometric structure of the aether wave functions changing form as the vibration of the planet/solar system changes. Which is right in line with the quote from Melchizedek about synthetic materials dissipating.

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Also, I suggest research into Tesla, Keely, Dale Pond, Zero Point Energy... and many other things but this is enough for now as I feel like being done with this post.

U2U me if you are at all interested in discussing further.

Thanks again for the link and info.

Oh, and one more thing... the recent thread about Sonoluminescence is very intriguing... this video:

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