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reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 02:16 PM by Becker44

Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money.

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Becker

reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 02:22 PM by GeosAlien

Originally posted by Becker44
Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money.

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Becker

Great statement for the fun of it.

But seriously, this is not happening, as it doesn't happen to pension funds, insurance companies and the like. No worry, governments taxation systems will top up the shortages.

This is happening in socialist countries and guess even in the USA...

So where are we talking about ??

[edit on 18-8-2010 by GeosAlien]

reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 02:26 PM by woodwardjnr

reply to post by mnemeth1

At the end of the day my friend it' a an ideological point and me and you seem to be at opposite ends. Not once have I advocated violence.

My point will always be that if you want a society to succeed you need to convince people, that children's education is good for the society not just your child. (I dont have kids). We want good education for all children as these children grow up and become part of the society. Surely better to have an educated populace?

The same applies for health. A healthy society is more likely to be successful. I think its good we have doctors and nurses who can bring you into the world and help you should you become ill.

edit to add

If you believe that America is now a socialist nation you are seriously confused.

[edit on 18-8-2010 by woodwardjnr]

reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 02:28 PM by mnemeth1

Originally posted by GeosAlien

Originally posted by Becker44
Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money.

second line

Becker

Great statement for the fun of it.

But seriously, this is not happening, as it doesn't happen to pension funds, insurance companies and the like. No worry, governments taxation systems will top up the shortages.

This is happening in socialist countries and guess even in the USA...

So where are we talking about ??

[edit on 18-8-2010 by GeosAlien]

I can't tell if you are joking or being serious.

Given that this is ATS, I'll assume you are being serious.

If the average person was to take all of the money they put in to socialist security over their life, and purchase gold with that money, they would have at least a half million to retire on.

Of course, since the gold would be their property, they could pass it on to their kids, donate it to charity, or do whatever else they wanted to do with it.

Today socialist security is bankrupt as its income stream is now less than its outflows. This obviously requires that the government use more violence to loot the public as well as raising the retirement age in order to make it solvent once again.

Of course, if you should die before retirement age, the State keeps your property. Thus the State has an active interest in seeing you dead as soon as you have outlived your usefulness.

Without guns and brutal totalitarian violence, socialist security would be impossible because no one in their right mind would willingly invest in it.

[edit on 18-8-2010 by mnemeth1]

reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 02:34 PM by GeosAlien

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by mnemeth1

If you believe that America is now a socialist nation you are seriously confused.

Depends on what you mean by socialistic.
If in your mind socialistic is equal to communistic then I would say that is absurd.

In any case America is definitely NOT socialistic nor communistic. But it won't harm to make some moves to become more social. It will make you all much more happy, for a fact !!

reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 02:37 PM by GeosAlien

Originally posted by mnemeth1

Originally posted by GeosAlien

Originally posted by Becker44
Socialism is great until you run out of other people's money.

second line

Becker

Great statement for the fun of it.

But seriously, this is not happening, as it doesn't happen to pension funds, insurance companies and the like. No worry, governments taxation systems will top up the shortages.

This is happening in socialist countries and guess even in the USA...

So where are we talking about ??

[edit on 18-8-2010 by GeosAlien]

I can't tell if you are joking or being serious.

Given that this is ATS, I'll assume you are being serious.

If the average person was to take all of the money they put in to socialist security over their life, and purchase gold with that money, they would have at least a half million to retire on.

Of course, since the gold would be their property, they could pass it on to their kids, donate it to charity, or do whatever else they wanted to do with it.

Today socialist security is bankrupt as its income stream is now less than its outflows. This obviously requires that the government use more violence to loot the public as well as raising the retirement age in order to make it solvent once again.

Of course, if you should die before retirement age, the State keeps your property. Thus the State has an active interest in seeing you dead as soon as you have outlived your usefulness.

Without guns and brutal totalitarian violence, socialist security would be impossible because no one in their right mind would willingly invest in it.

[edit on 18-8-2010 by mnemeth1]

ROFLOL
Sorry but have a twisted view of the world.
You are a typical American that can't be saved from anything.
The best with your dreams.

reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 02:38 PM by mnemeth1

reply to post by GeosAlien

America is a fascist police state.

private ownership of the means of production with socialized losses.

America does have some socialistic tendencies though, such as State ownership of interest rates, State ownership of the money supply, State ownership of mortgage market, State ownership of the school system, State ownership of security and fire services, State ownership of an auto producer, State ownership of postal services, State ownership of retirement funds, etc...

reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 02:41 PM by mnemeth1

Originally posted by GeosAlien
ROFLOL
Sorry but have a twisted view of the world.
You are a typical American that can't be saved from anything.
The best with your dreams.

I'm not the one that believes I need to be saved by violent looting of myself.

Your arguing that in order for me to be "saved" (from what?), I must first be looted at gun point.

And you're saying I'm the one with the twisted world view?

reply posted on 18-8-2010 @ 02:42 PM by Baloney

reply to post by AwakeinNM

And the padded room for paranoid right wing propaganda victims is across the hall from it, ya better hurry up.

They dont serve Kool-aid there though because they used up all the funds to pay for the usual PROPAGANDA. So no Kool-aid for your group.