i cant even speak..after watching this

Originally posted by The Sword
The comment about tons of terror cells fails to mention how they came about. It also fails to mention the possible involvement of alphabet agencies in pushing this terror threat.

Comrade, there are tons of terror cells. If you believe in the constitution, you're a terrorist.


whatreallyhappened.com...

If you believe in freedom and liberty, you're a terrorist. If you grow crops in your own garden, you're a terrorist. If you don't give all your money to the government, you're a terrorist. If you don't blindly obey the government and do as you're told, you're a terrorist. Don't you see how great our society is? This is why they hate us. Because we're free!

reply to post by Reign02


I didnt say you said that, I just stated a FACT, that the US is attacking a whole nation, and maybe a whole culture

thats a fact, you guys are in the freaking Iraq and Afghanistan , or am I wrong?

Originally posted by kyred
reply to post by Nephi1337

 

It's a freaking horror show!

I'd rather watch, or be in another George Romero movie!

This stuff sucks and it needs to be put in front of our collective face, again and again.

I am so tired of this crap I was a part of. And, now, I am so very tired of seeing my friends sending their own kids off to participate in the same activities.

There is NO honor in this stuff.

There is NO good reason to continue this stuff.

As a veteran who has been there, and done that.........nope. I won't do it again, and I will urge others, don't let this happen anymore.

Unfortunately, just like the words of a veteran who went before me, and I ignored them. my words will be ignored by way too many younger folks, who actually believe the hype of "you are keeping your country free!"

I laugh and I cry, at the same time.

yes its very sad ,and i wouldlike to say i am so happy that you made it out alive and well ,and your words are so very true ,also we are not going to relise the damage we did over their untill its all over with

thank you for your honest words

wikileaks is garbage propaganda BS.

I am done posting on this thread, for the 1 person out of everyone on this thread that was agreeing with me, I THANK YOU!!!

As for everyone else, stop falling into the ATS, wikileaks, media, and internet propaganda BS. go be a journalist over in the middle east and see how it is for yourself. You people are ignorant and can't hear what someone else is saying who knows more about that region than your whole family does. I have been in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan since 01. How many times have you been there??
I work with Special Forces doing some real stuff, while you sit at home reading all the BS propaganda on the internet and think you know everything.

I hope to god that one day they do reach the states again and you need my help. I wish I knew what you guys looked like so when the time comes I can just step right over your lifeless body or headless corpse and tell you " I TOLD YOU SO" Good day and go do some real intel gathering .......

reply to post by Reign02


can i ask you a question?
i think you are stead fast in your point because if you admitted this war is a crime against humanity the reality of your actions may sink in
and you may feel the human compasion again and with the effects of battle that could spur overwelming emotion

the one thing the military has to beat out of you for you to survive your service

if so im sorry you cant feel for the victims and yourself

xp

Originally posted by Archon_Adept

You're exactly right, comrade. They want to kill us by giving us all their oil and by letting us put Hussein in power. Muslims hate our freedom, a freedom that must be protected by putting more people in prison than any other country and by having one of the highest per capita police force. We must give up our freedoms through the patriot act, the military commissions act, and warrantless wiretapping in order to have freedom. I know exactly where you come from, comrade, and it's precisely why we must make the Iraqis pay for having wmd and threatening our great society. Thank you, soldier, for protecting us. I salute your skill in allowing 19 hijackers violate one of the most densely controlled airspace and ram them into the wtc. I salute your courage to kill women and children and unarmed men who hate our freedom to kill them. And when the time comes that you'd ever have to protect this country from men who would destroy our economy, send all our jobs to china, print money out of thin air so that they can loan the people's money back to the people with interest, well, sir, I know you would step in to protect the people because I know you would die for the constitution and to uphold it. Thank you, sir! Praise Israel!

Lol wow, blame it all on the soldier, maybe if people didn't vote the wrong people into office we would not have any of this....I'm sure you are doing your part to stop all this....

Originally posted by Reign02
wikileaks is garbage propaganda BS.

I am done posting on this thread, for the 1 person out of everyone on this thread that was agreeing with me, I THANK YOU!!!

As for everyone else, stop falling into the ATS, wikileaks, media, and internet propaganda BS. go be a journalist over in the middle east and see how it is for yourself. You people are ignorant and can't hear what someone else is saying who knows more about that region than your whole family does. I have been in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan since 01. How many times have you been there??
I work with Special Forces doing some real stuff, while you sit at home reading all the BS propaganda on the internet and think you know everything.

I hope to god that one day they do reach the states again and you need my help. I wish I knew what you guys looked like so when the time comes I can just step right over your lifeless body or headless corpse and tell you " I TOLD YOU SO" Good day and go do some real intel gathering .......

I might consider being a journalist over there, but I'd get killed for being a terrorist, and as for that whole "I told you thing", I knew soldiers would willingly kill american citizens. That's the whole point of sending you guys over there, to desensitize you to killing so when shtf over here because of total economic collapse, you guys would have plenty of experience to kill your fellow americans without any remorse or mercy. Then it'll be us who said we told you so.

Originally posted by Reign02
wikileaks is garbage propaganda BS.

I am done posting on this thread, for the 1 person out of everyone on this thread that was agreeing with me, I THANK YOU!!!

As for everyone else, stop falling into the ATS, wikileaks, media, and internet propaganda BS. go be a journalist over in the middle east and see how it is for yourself. You people are ignorant and can't hear what someone else is saying who knows more about that region than your whole family does. I have been in and out of Iraq and Afghanistan since 01. How many times have you been there??
I work with Special Forces doing some real stuff, while you sit at home reading all the BS propaganda on the internet and think you know everything.

I hope to god that one day they do reach the states again and you need my help. I wish I knew what you guys looked like so when the time comes I can just step right over your lifeless body or headless corpse and tell you " I TOLD YOU SO" Good day and go do some real intel gathering .......

well you just proved to every one what kind of person you are , you will wake up one day ,hopefully you will be able to share your story on how you were brain washed since 01 , i am sorry you have not yet awaken i truly am however love is the key so even know their was negitive words between us i wouldlike to tell you that i value your life as a human as i and you are my brother and i love you

thank you for your time and serves

Nephi

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Archon_Adept


Lol wow, blame it all on the soldier, maybe if people didn't vote the wrong people into office we would not have any of this....I'm sure you are doing your part to stop all this....

You mean like how the people voted in kerry and al gore, but got bush twice? lol, you actually believe voting means anything? If voting actually worked, it would be illegal. Of course, those electronic voting machines sure do make a good act. You believe in santa claus too, huh?

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reply to post by Reign02


man, go play some Call of Duty, so you can get your skills ready then


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you never stop to realize that maybe, just maybe, you are wrong?

its not internet propaganda, man, I really want you to explain to me right now, how the math works: you kill one insurgent, you kill his child, then he gets scared and help you guys to tell where the bad guys are? please, I want to understand your side, but you fail to provide enough evidence that your strategy is working

in my opinion, your strategy is just creating more hate

reply to post by kyred

I think your a more logical member or ex-member of the armed services as versus the point man for Roger Ramjet whos probably assisted in sending a great deal of people to their maker and loved every minute of it.If there are all these terror cells in Britain and the USA as well as a failed state Mexico next door what are the best soldiers and specialists doing out of the country.

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by Reign02

 

can i ask you a question?
i think you are stead fast in your point because if you admitted this war is a crime against humanity the reality of your actions may sink in
and you may feel the human compasion again and with the effects of battle that could spur overwelming emotion

the one thing the military has to beat out of you for you to survive your service

if so im sorry you cant feel for the victims and yourself

xp

LOL feel for my victims??? Well seeing how my victims were grown ass men that threw a grenade at me while I was passing out food and water to a bunch of kids in a local village.. I got out of the way but 3 innocent kids died just because some raghead wanted me dead. Hmm that sounds really nice of him to try and kill me while im passing out food and water to a local village building relations..... So I honestly didnt feel anything when I took care of them.

Originally posted by Reign02
reply to post by Archon_Adept

 

no you would get killed by a terrorists you anti-american hippy.
I hope you are from another country because if you are american you need to leave ASAP.

But that's why we have you over there, buddy. So they don't attack us over here. Oh wait, they still are, so I guess you just aren't doing your job well enough. lol. good thing we got some people with a ged running TSA, so they can throw handicapped people out of their wheelchairs. Good thing we've sealed up our borders to stop all those illegals and terrorists from coming over here...oh wait, borders are wide open. Good thing we've got warrantless wiretapping spying on everyone and secret bases committing torture to stop all those terrorists because that'll stop the terrorists! lol!

reply to post by Reign02


just because 3 guys tried to kill you, that means everybody wants to kill you and everybody is bad?

good logic

reply to post by Faiol


where is your evidence of anything??? I have my word and that counts for something cause i have been there numerous times..... where have you been, ohh yea thats right nowhere....

reply to post by Nephi1337


You are nothing more than a gossip mongering degenerate. Although I have only done three tours, one in Afghanistan and two in Iraq, I know that most of the stories told about us troops are nothing but lies and propaganda spread by imbecile foreigners. Reign02 is correct, our orders were never to "Open fire at the slightest threat." or "Give a full 360 fire-at-will upon IED or other attack." If I remember correctly, the exact orders that were ALWAYS given to myself and my platoon, and every other platoon that we came into contact with was " Only open fire upon ARMED soldiers or civilians. In the incident of an IED, rocket, missile, or any other attack on our platoon, DETERMINE THE SOURCE OF THE ATTACK before returning fire." Also, if there were to be any unarmed civilians or children in the vicinity we were to HOLD FIRE until such persons got clear of the area, even if it meant being pinned down in some #hole that barely gave us any cover for hours at a time.

I'm sick and tired of you tree-hugging bastards that believe and spread every bad word you hear about us soldiers. When you get off your sorry asses and go over there yourself and see how things REALLY are, your tune would change fast. It's easy to scream "war crime" when you have no idea what is going on. You've never seen a young woman that you just passed untouched, because she was unarmed, pick up an automatic weapon and proceed to fire upon soldiers when their back was turned to her. You've never seen a nine year old child running towards you and your brothers with an IED strapped to him. You've never seen teenage kids pretending to be innocent civilians, just to attack you when you least suspect it with fully automatic weapons that they had hidden. What do you do in these situations? You will never understand what we go through over there.

Personally, I feel that ANYONE is a threat at this point, simply because I and my platoon have been attacked by every source imaginable. My platoon has been ambushed countless times by "harmless" civilians. The things that are happening to these people are being brought onto them by themselves. Most of you can't even comprehend what is happening over there because, compared to the rest of the world, American's are spoiled lazy #s who don't know what the real world is like. Spend one day in a soldiers boots and see if you're crying "war crimes" then. Enough said.

Originally posted by Nephi1337

say what you will ,but the government tried to hide it and wikileaks exposed it ! need i say more ? wikileaks will hopeully prove more later on hopefully

Could be true, so I guess we can speculate on it all. I do agree that our government does not send this stuff out to the networks when it happens as in “boy did we screw up, take a look”.

To be quite frank I’m against both wars. I would rather just let that part of the world live in their own little hell. If they want to kill each other and enslave their female population so be it. Most of that area is so backwards that I would leave and give them a few 100 years to work it out.


We should have learned from Somalia, but we didn't.

Originally posted by Faiol
reply to post by Reign02

 

just because 3 guys tried to kill you, that means everybody wants to kill you and everybody is bad?

good logic

Dude I swear to GOD, STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH!! When did I say everybody is bad??????? PLease fcking tell me this........................




And thank god I finally got some backup in this thread im starting to go bald!!!!

[edit on 14-8-2010 by Reign02]

Originally posted by Reign02
reply to post by Faiol

 

where is your evidence of anything??? I have my word and that counts for something cause i have been there numerous times..... where have you been, ohh yea thats right nowhere....

The power of Google in an air conditioned house is where they get it all hehe