Just a matter of time...watch.

Am I the only one who sees the signs.?'
Does it not seem as if were on the brink of a new war.
Every where I turn I am witnessing the propaganda at every turn.
Iran.
South Korea.
Iran.
Iran.
Iran.
South Korea.
South Korea.
Iran.
Iran.
SANTIONS.
SANCTIONS.
SANCTIONS.
I am going to suggest to you...
Maybe Sanctions are just a warning sign..
OVER AND OVER.
OVER AND OVER.
SANCTIONS.
We can say it's against them.
But in the end no one ends.
We can use fear as fuel.
It's a crying shame.
Anyone who tries too hard to be your friend, is not to be trusted,
I use to think that was what ran the free world. The cycle of building trust.
I am wrong it is a crying shame

So why are you watching the propaganda?

And why are you posting stuff like this in the first place? You want to take the fear you got from the propaganda and spread it to more people?

Ask yourself if you are not reacting exactly like the propaganda makers wants.



[edit on 24-7-2010 by Copernicus]

show no emotions do right thats it # what war or agenda they are on just live ya life we all die sometime just make sure u did what u need to do in ya life........ ww3 is inevitable it was written thousands of years ago... we knew it was coming prepare

I am so great full for a response.
How are we suppose to warn people of something unfolding before our eye with out ripping the cloth right off?
I want to thank you so much.
I watch the propaganda because it is the first of warnings.
And as previously said.
You must live for what you want done.
I am yet to be 21 and yet I still feel as if people are still so lost to as whats actually going on.
Every single day, I awake with the same feeling..
something is wrong.

Anyone who's followed my posts probably thinks I'm pro-military, and I am for the most part, but I think it should be for defense and not for plundering and pillaging any nation that we feel needs plundering and pillaging today.

I say pull back to our borders, and make a global announcement: "You have nukes? Good for you. Use them on us or our friends, and we shall pave your country with our nukes. We have bigger ones and more of them. Have a nice day."

The first country that tests us, do what we said we'd do. Then ask if there is anyone else who didn't understand the announcement. I bet there'd be no more aggression from anyone.

I know, idealistic. Liberals can be idealistic, why can't I? *sigh*


As for the OP, bet on it. The war machine needs constant feeding.

reply to post by AwakeinNM


It's much more complicated than that. For instance, if we pulled back to our own borders (which I agree we should), then anyone can take out our nuclear capabilities with a strike of their own. This is one of the reasons why we have a strategic empire, because this way, we have launch capabilities from ships at sea, aircraft stationed all over the world and missile sites of every color, on every corner. If we pulled back to within our own borders, our striking capabilities would only be from our homeland, to include ships that could only operate within a predetermined radius of our own ports, thus not giving us the nuclear advantage.

With that being said, if we pulled back to within our own borders and stopped meddling in the affairs of others, then nobody would want to attack us in the first place. We are only hated for sticking our noses in other's business, our support for Israel, our economic empire and our dictation to others.

Contrary to what we are told, nobody is jealous of our freedoms, angry that we are a christian nation or any of the other silly excuses they holler down at us.

We have an economic empire that oppresses many people around the globe. It is because of us that the third world is the third world. It is because of us that many countries are bankrupt. It is because of us that many oppressive dictators rule with an iron fist. We are the cause of most of the world's ills and we are certainly the main aggressors in the world.

We do this so that we can maintain our economic empire, the same empire that only benefits the elite, corporate and special interests, at the expense of the people. At the expense of us.

For instance, we install then back brutal dictators who commit human rights abuses because these dictators either sell our corporations their resources very cheap or they allow our military bases to operate within their borders for strategic purposes. You see, if many of these people had democratic systems, they wouldn't allow us to use them in such a way, therefore it behooves TPTB to install and back these dictators.

For reference, you can look up Batista of Cuba, the Shah of Iran and many other Middle Eastern, Asian and Latin American dictators. These dictators ruled because of us. They reigned terror on their people all because of us, or should I say our corporate interests.

In many latin American countries, the populations finally had enough and so overthrew their respective dictators and through knee-jerk reactions, installed socialist governments since the governments that the US backed were usually always right wing, as to give the most benefit to US corporations. This happened in Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia and many other countries in Latin America.

As far as Iran, the people had a nice little democracy and this elected government demanded fair prices for their oil. Well, the the American and British corporations weren't going to have any of that so they unleashed the CIA on that elected government, which ultimately overthrew the democratically elected government, only to install the Shah, because the Shah would practically give away the oil and be obedient to the western powers. In turn for his compassion of US interests, he was rewarded handsomely and back by the might of the western militaries and influence. This Shah was so brutal that eventually, the people overthrew him. They stormed the US embassy because without having those hostages as a bargaining tool, the US probably would have rushed to the Shah's aid. The rest is history as the Iranian revolution grew legs and their current democratically elected and structured government is as a direct result.

This same scenario has played out in country after country, from Panama to Grenada, Cuba to Haiti and every country in between. In order to get Congress to go along, they have to put the American people through a charade, so they basically spew out propaganda about "this country hates us for our freedoms", "that country is communist" or even "this country is a huge threat and is acting belligerent".

Then, we move to terrorism. Islamic extremists usually tend to not like us solely because of our support to Israel. We supply Israel with their weapons and we give them lots of money, money that in turn is being used to oppress the Palestinians.

At this point, you may ask how we bankrupt other countries. This we do through the World Bank and IMF. We basically go to these third world countries and tell them that we can build their infrastructure so that their economies can grow. We promise them vivid dreams of growing to be just like America and we send in American corporate consultants to promise the feasibility of these false dreams. Then, we lend them the money for this infrastructure, things such as a new port, airports or high rise buildings. Maybe a new large hydro-electric power plant. This money goes directly to American corporations who wind up starting and finishing the projects but when their economies don't grow because of these large and wild projects, they are unable to pay back these loans. They then go in debt and as a condition of their debt, we demand things, things such as military bases, cheap minerals or UN votes.

If a country has large reserves of natural resources, such as oil, nat-gas or even fruit or drugs, then we demand our corporations get the contracts for these resources. If the country has a strategic location, then we demand they allow us to operate military bases. If they have neither, then we demand they vote along with us in the UN or to simply boost our international political power.

Well, you may ask what happens when a country doesn't take the bait by purchasing the loan for new infrastructure? That's easy. We send people to threaten these countries. If that still doesn't work, we either assassinate their political leaders, or stage a coup d'etat. If this also fails, then we send in our troops, under the guise of fighting for freedom and world democracy.

How do we know this? Easy, their has been several whistle blowers who have blown the lid on this scheme to empower the economic empire, among many other things that lead one to this conclusion. One such whistle blower is named John Perkins and he wrote several books, one titled "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man".

This really is a shame and once you learn of exactly how they do this and why, to include the details, it becomes pretty obvious and you hit yourself on the head for not realizing this earlier.

Of course, there is much, much more to it than this, however this is it in a nut-shell.

--airspoon

It doesn't take a Nostradamus to predict that sometime in the future of the world another war will start.

Sure its easy to predict a war.
But identifying the first stage of propaganda as it is happening.
identifying the soon to be enemy.
now that gives you some insight

reply to post by tribaltrip


why can't we all just get along??


can't imagine that, can you? a planet where everybody is free. a world where we all can play together, enjoy life together, in peace. no fear. of anything. ever. a world where there is nothing to protect or attack. only EVERYTHING to share.

we all must get to a point where we can imagine this, see this and WANT more than anything THIS.

why can't we all just get along?? can't imagine that, can you? a planet where everybody is free. a world where we all can play together, enjoy life together, in peace. no fear. of anything. ever. a world where there is nothing to protect or attack. only EVERYTHING to share. we all must get to a point where we can imagine this, see this and WANT more than anything THIS.

THIS is exactly why I started this tread.
Because I'm sick of having my tax dollars supporting puppet wars.
I'm sick of seeing blatant injustice. I am sick of the control conditioning through amusement.
I have it nice up here in Canada, but I would give up 9/10s of what I have if I could actually help some body.
I don't get how any body of people can spend trillions of dollars on a war to "protect" them selves. But doesn't spend a fraction of that on actually keeping its people alive.
If they truly want a war, it seems the people will soon enough give em one.
What then, will our brothers and sisters in authority jobs turn on us? For some pitiful war after another?

Originally posted by airspoon



With that being said, if we pulled back to within our own borders and stopped meddling in the affairs of others, then nobody would want to attack us in the first place. We are only hated for sticking our noses in other's business, our support for Israel, our economic empire and our dictation to others.

Well I think you can thank the Japanese for that!
Minding our own business letting Hitler take over Europe then bam! Has not been the same since

[edit on 24-7-2010 by paradiselost333]

reply to post by paradiselost333


It didn't quite occur like that. In fact, we were shipping supplies to the enemies of Japan, even breaking our own declaration of neutrality. Fact is, we provoked that response from the Japanese.

As far as Hitler and his taking over of Europe, he would have never even came to power, if it wasn't for the meddling in affairs by America.

You see, during WW1, the Germans had all but won the war, before America stepped in. In fact, Germany was considered our ally during the first parts of the war. After Germany whooped the crap out of the allies, they came to the peace table with very attractive peace conditions for the UK and France. In fact, Germany was offering to let bygones to be bygones and all countries go back to their pre-war borders/conditions.

To make along story short, the German Jews (an influential group of them anyway) made a deal with the British to get America into the war on behalf of the allies if Great Britain would do a few things for the Jews. This is something that was unheard of, as Germany was our ally, not the British. In fact, German U-boats of WW1 would dock in our harbors and we would throw parades for them and welcome them with open arms.

You see, certain Jews had a lot of clout with the American government, seeing how they had just passed the Federal Reserve Act and were establishing Hollywood and had much control of the industry in this country. They had also just successfully engineered a revolt in Russia, that we call the Bolshevik Revolution. These Jews were able to convince the Britts that they could pull through and Great Britain finally agreed and to the astonishment of the Germans, backed away from the lucrative peace deal that Germany was offering the defeated allies.

Low and behold, the Jews were successful and America was thrust into the war. We eventually kicked the German's butts and pretty much forced them to sign the Treaty of Versailles, which basically put all of the war debt on Germany, which ultimately bankrupted the country. Germany also lost a lot of territory.

The Germans were angry. How could the allies impose such harsh conditions on the germans when only a few short years ago, they offered such a nice peace deal to the same countries? They didn't understand why their former allies would turn around and fight against them.

Then, it became public knowledge about the deal that the Jews had approached Great Britain with. This made the Germans very angry, after all, the Germans had accepted the Jews with open arms, even when the rest of the world was shunning them. Up until that time, Germany had been the best place for the Jews to relocate and the Germans felt betrayed that a group of Jews would pressure America, Germany's ally, into the war against them that ultimately led to their defeat.

Enter Hitler. Hitler used this anxiety about the German-Jewish community to rise to power. He captured and built onto the fear that the Jews had instilled into the public. He then used this fear to get the public to go along with his demands and accept his now seemingly absurd policies.

All in all, it was the Americans who meddled in the affairs of both Europe and Japan that would ultimately lead to war with both countries. It wasn't that we were minding our own business and these countries just decided to bring the war to us. Had we have kept to ourselves, none of this would have happened.

With that being said, I think it's important to note that we wouldn't have the perks that we do either, had we not meddled in the affairs of the world, such as cheap gas, all kinds of imported and useless plastic crap as well as the other cheap imports. We have to ask ourselves if these "perks" are really worth the destruction we cause and not only to the rest of the world, but also to ourselves. Personally, I don't feel that one American heroes' life is worth saving a few dollars on gas or being able to buy cheap plastic crap from Wal-Mart. That's just my opinion. The American corporations benefit greatly from our empire, unlike the public who just get the relatively small perks mentioned above.

--airspoon


p.s. Arguably, Hollywood came to be so successful because of their effort and drive to propagate anti-German sentiment in an effort to get America into WW1.

reply to post by nltkn


If you look at how children play on a playground you will notice that conflict arrises. You will see bullys stomping icecream in the sand, because they didn't get any. You will see the kid who realises that by controlling others by invoking their fear, he can get whatever he wants.
I think that this is a microcosm of the world stage. It comes down to this. You can't expect the world to be better than you personally are. If you want things to change, change yourself first, then change others. (hint: start with the people in your life)

THe new world order creates illusions threw fear. Just remember that. So what you might be so sure of could just be there to trick you into fearing.

reply to post by airspoon


Interesting info. As I said in my post, I was being idealistic, and certainly simplistic in my statements.

If your assertions are correct, that would make the U.S. the 800lb. gorilla of the NWO?

reply to post by tribaltrip

Hi tribaltrip.

[ ! You don't see the world as it is, but how you are ! ]

To lift up your spirit, see my signature's first line! B-)

It made people loose weight, stop smoking, even stop to suicide ! !

Blue skies.

Well to the original poster....only 21 and you feel that something is just wrong..I give you credit for being "aware"....To Airspoon-Thanks for the info there was some mixed in that I wasn't aware of and I'm 36.

My question is this-
If we are aware of the World Bankers...and the NWO agenda that's gears turn as we speak...What do we do? Be kind to those around us, enjoy the time that we have with our loved ones while we still can? I Know that this is about the "information" and "waking up", but when people on this forum and others bring information to bear they are "fear-mongering".
So if we have a soul and we wish that the crap about to come down on us wouldn't and would do something to stop it, what do we do??
I don't want to say there is no hope, but for months I have pondered what if anything can/could be done to stop this agenda and I have to say I'm in a darker place for it.....mind you I know the "light & Love" is there but I wonder if we are more or less destined to leave our bodies to get there....Anyone able to lighten my perspective...
I think I'm gonna miss my Sam Adams when it's time to go....