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Organized Pedophilia? food for thought

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posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:12 AM
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There is a dirty secret among the elites, and it may be hard to believe: secret pedophilia rings? This sounds quite preposterous but please hear me out. Just some food for thought.

First of all, check out this documentary, called Conspiracy of Silence. It was produced for the Discovery Channel and scheduled to air on May 3rd, 1994. However, it never aired. A more complete description can be found in the beginning of the video. The documentary covered the Franklin Cover-up in which an investigation on then Senator Lawrence King for financial fraud led to a much more shocking discovery of a pedophile/drug ring; a conspiracy reaching all the way to the top. After watching the video, you will understand why it never aired. The documentary is very well made and also includes interviews with the victims.


Google Video Link


Interestingly, a key supplier of young children was Boys Town, Nebraska, which is an organization that cares for and houses "at risk" children. It was originally founded by Father Flanagan as an orphanage for young boys. It is run by Catholic Priests.. and Catholic Priests are to pedophilia as prison is to getting raped. More interestingly, Father Flanagan was ordained with the Jesuits.


Fr. Flanagan was ordained with the Jesuits at Innsbruck, Austria, July 26, 1912.

fatherflanagan.org...


This is not the only case, nor was it the first. A more recent controversy that some may have already heard of is the Hollie Greig scandal in which a girl with downs syndrome was allegedly a victim of a [guess what?] pedophilia ring that reached high up into the Scottish establishment. The story was quickly buried although it sparked much interest when it first broke. Here is an article regarding this story. Doing some simple research yourself may also prove to be quite enlightening.

www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...


Another case that is interesting is the Finders Cult. Read the article, and note that the CIA stepped in to disrupt further investigation.




Former FBI Ted Gunderson is convinced that the elites conduct "satanic ritualized child abuse," and that the CIA is involved in the "international trafficking of drugs and children." You can watch his testimony/lecture and decide for yourself his credibility:

Google Video Link


Corruption in Child Protective Services:


Sen. Nancy Schaefer exposes the CPS:


Here is a woman who makes some interesting points that connects everything together.

Google Video Link



Senator Nancy Schaefer dead March 2010 from alleged murder-suicide? There were also rumors that she was planning on releasing/revealing information to expose a pedophilia ring amongst the elites.

www.ajc.com...



Just some food for thought.

[edit on 9-7-2010 by italkyoulisten]




posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:24 AM
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The shocking story of Holly Grieg


"Medical and other evidence supported Hollie`s account and Grampian Police accepted the truth of Hollie`s statement. Nonetheless, no action was taken by Grampian Police against the perpetrators and despite Anne Greig`s persistence, the Procurator Fiscal, now Lord Advocate, Elish Angiolini prevented any police action taking place.

In fact, the authorities instead attempted to discredit and intimidate Anne by having her forcibly taken to a mental institution, with the intention of handing Hollie back to her abuser father. Fortunately, Anne Greig had the presence of mind to have herself checked by a leading psychiatrist, who proclaimed her perfectly sane, a view with which even the institution were forced to concur."


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posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:30 AM
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This gets covered quite a lot here, it's thoroughly despicable.

You may be interested in a current case concerning a girl (now woman) named Hollie Greig, there are various threads discussing it here - the case is ongoing and is still not receiving enough attention.

There's a farcebook group that posts out news and updates on the case regularly, it can be found with a simple facebook search.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:35 AM
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I read that facebook has deleted the Hollie Grieg facebook page
edit to add there is a small page currenntly for HG
but
www.abovetopsecret.com...
this claims a huge page was deleted.


[edit on 9-7-2010 by Danbones]



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:45 AM
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Seen that Ted Gunderson video, and I believe every word of it.

Seems ridiculous to some people, because they cannot accept something so evil could happen.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:50 AM
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Yes, I am aware of the Hollie Greig case and it is briefly discussed in the OP. I am interested if anyone has anything to add to the list. Things that immediately comes to mind are the Catholic Church and McMartin Preschool. But there must be more

Thanks for the links!

[edit on 9-7-2010 by italkyoulisten]



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 06:09 AM
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I'm downloading the video to watch later.
Thanks for the info
Whatever happened about the Madelein McCann case? I think there were a couple of threads on here.

Regards



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 06:15 AM
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"satanic ritualized child abuse," BS

Everyone of these so called satanic child abuse rings have been found to be bogus.

They have been found to be based on reports from children and adults using therapeutic and questioning techniques now considered illegitimate,

This is not saying that there is not ritualized child abuse in other countries like in Africa. more the local witch doctor that likes kids.
but they likely are shamanistic practices by small religious groups.

The practice of men in Africa with AIDs having sex with young kids to cure AIDS
Because some witch doctors told them to is a case in point.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 06:38 AM
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I can't remember what the official reason was that Farcebook used for closing the group originally, but the people that run it were very well organised - I think they were expecting it.

The group is still going strong and is very good about putting out up-to-date information. Don't think they suffered a significant loss of numbers.

Interestingly, I just searched for the group and the main one isn't coming up - this might just be Farcebook being crap though.

Here's the link to the group I'm subscribed to:

www.facebook.com...#!/profile.php?id=1320810714



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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Are they really bogus though or is it not more likely that the police and investigators are being leaned on to whitewash everything from those higher up the chain of command.

Some of the stories that emerge from these family courts appear to support the fact that paedophilia is practised by those in power.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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I am aware of many more cases, and I learned about them here on ATS. I wouldn't know where to start in a search though.

I think I remember several women and a couple of men coming forward about ritualized abuse in Denver. They were passed around for years, and their stories were checked out and deemed credible. Like most, the investigations were quashed as soon as they were checked out and confirmed. No action.

It may take awhile, but ATS has many, many more cases like these.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 04:51 PM
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Sorry did not read this post.

I only understand and believe factual evidence of pedophilia and child abuse.

There IS a worldwide pedophile ring and it is headquartered in Rome.

That is a proven fact.










posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:41 PM
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I can say that I personally know that these types of things occur more than we think, and I know that they happen in foster care systems, and large capacity group home. Where children, including homes for the disabled, are routinely passed around by both female and male staff members, and given drugs and alcohol, and sometimes while intoxicated moved to other areas, that most time the children don't really remember or have vague memories of the incidents.

Most of these large capacity facilities are run by the state, but owned by the church. This is why IMO a lot of the children that leave these places end up having horrible adult lives, due to abuse, they either know happened, but cannot prove, or don't remember the specifics and spend their lives trying to remember, and have lost their identities in the process.


Peace to you...



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 06:12 PM
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Reminds me of this interview I came across a while ago with Dean Warwick. The interview is kind of all over the place, but he does bring up ritual abuse/abduction. For anyone not familiar (which I'm sure everyone at ATS is) Dean Warwick was the guy who was demonstrating why 9/11 was an inside job, when he suddenly clutched his heart and dropped dead on stage. Seriously. Some of his claims seem a bit like a deranged James Bond fantasy, but for what it's worth...

(Sorry for all the bits that are not about child abductions)...

Dean Warwick interview (shortly before mysterious death on stage)



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 06:24 PM
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So, any of you who believe in organized ritual abuse of children: what do you think are the reasons for it? Brainwashing? Religious ritual? Pseudo-religious ritual? Pure evil? Just for kicks? (Unfortunately this last possibility is all too real).

However, I personally know someone who underwent hypnosis as an adult and came up with "repressed memories" of her mother sexually abusing her, and her brother and sister having sex with each other. I also know her mother, brother, and sister personally, and don't for a minute believe it. A lot of the satanic abuse stories came from "repressed memories" like these. I have to take them with a grain of salt. If you read transcripts of interviews with people who say they've been ritually abused, they're sometimes full of physical impossibilities.

So, what if these are false memories, and there is actually something else taking place? What if this is some extension of MK-Ultra and these are a certain type of hallucination?



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 07:38 PM
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we have no idea how long ago they started Pedophilia in the church. 500 years? more? so the church would have been protecting them for 500 years. hand in hand!



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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You have to be extremely careful with hypnosis. It is true tht the person is very susceptible to suggestions while under. If the hypnotist is not very careful with their phrasing of questions then memories can be implanted rather than remembered. Somebody should always have a buddy with them if they are going to a hypnotist. Video is even better than a buddy.



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 04:14 AM
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Here's an interesting take on the hypnotic suggestion/false memory idea. The claim is that the False Memory Syndrome Foundation has ties with the CIA, which in turn has ties with mind control experiments.


Martin T. Orne, for example, a senior CIA/Navy researcher, is based at the University of Pennsylvania's Experimental Psychiatry Laboratory. He is also an original member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation's advisory board, a tightly-drawn coterie of psychiatrists, many with backgrounds in CIA mind control experimentation in its myriad forms. The Foundation is dedicated to denying the existence of cult mind control and child abuse. It's primary pursuit is the castigation of survivors and therapists for fabricating accusations of ritual abuse.

Dismissing cult abuse as hysteria or false memory, a common defense strategy, may relieve parents of preschool children. In a small percentage of cult abuse cases it's possible that children may be led to believe they've been victimized.

educate-yourself.org...


It does seem very plausible that ideas can be planted based upon questioning. However, in many cases of pedophilia/child abuse rings, the victims had scars or other physical evidence. In the case of the Finders, video and photographs were discovered.

[edit on 10-7-2010 by italkyoulisten]



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by burdenofdreams
So, any of you who believe in organized ritual abuse of children: what do you think are the reasons for it? Brainwashing? Religious ritual? Pseudo-religious ritual? Pure evil? Just for kicks? (Unfortunately this last possibility is all too real).


I'm not sure why. But the evidence does suggest that something fishy is going on. The woman in the last video suggests that the child abuse/pedophilia is an outlet for mind control victims who were themselves abused [for mind control purposes] when they were young but may not remember. I don't know what I think about this idea, though.



posted on Jul, 10 2010 @ 05:26 AM
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This stuff is organised at the bottom of the rung too. My friend worked for a big funded rehabilitation charity which included paedophiles among the 'service users'. When they're released from jail or wherever they've been they have to attend the police station about once a week to sign a register and also attend counselling. These meetings are not one to one. They gather there, meet like-minded folk, and when they leave they're told they must not get the same bus home because "you're not supposed to be seen together". That's how lone perverts get to meet others like themselves.

Another little fact. When these men/boys are in jail they cry to their social workers that they need new clothes. The social worker sends them catalogues. They use these to perv on the childrens pages.







 
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