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** Breaking News: All Ten Defendants in Russian Spy Case to Plead Guilty

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posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:29 PM
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not news article yet. Just a header placed on FOXNEWS.com.

More to come.

Seems like there is more to this than we have been told.




posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:30 PM
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Your name is salt?
Then you are russian spy.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 02:42 PM
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Plead guilty ????
Last I heard there might be a prisoner
exchange, now they're pleading guilty??
What's up with that?? Do they have to
plead guilty as part of the exchange
so that they will not be allowed back into
the US?



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:18 PM
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Im thinking they would first have to plead guilty so the Feds would have the evidence for the deportation hearings etc?.

I still think there is much much more to this than we are being told.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:20 PM
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Here is the updated news story:

U.S. Defendants in Court Ahead of Expected Spy Swap, Will Plead Guilty


www.foxnews.com...

Sorry, I was in a meeting and could get back till now.



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 03:30 PM
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Is it possible for the red-head to stay in the US on some sort of work release program??

So, Russia gets 10 and we get 4 back. Alrighty then....



posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 05:26 PM
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Maybe our four are like Super Spies-they equal 10 of theirs?

It's a long shot but...... lol

More craziness from the Clown Obama-daily anymore. Just more evidence of his inexperience IMO.

Again, I can safely say: This wouldn't be happening if Palin/McCain were elected.
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posted on Jul, 8 2010 @ 06:55 PM
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i smell a setup


them being caught so soon after russian presidents visit.


they are to be exchanged 10 russian spies for 4 american spies ....?

obama is letting the us get shafted agian

no interrogations no charges......

obama lets the rest of the world piss on us and he smiles and says more please...


AMERICA wake the f up and elect a real leader in 2012.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:21 AM
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WHat I find interesting is the lack of responses on this thread. It indicates to me that people could care less-like Russia isn't a real threat etc.

Prior to say..... 1990, this would be a HUGE matter and taken more seriously. Now, the giant (US) sleeps in hybenation as it's enemies plan their attack(s).



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:31 AM
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I think people are realizing the zionist controlled west might just be far worse then the Russians or Chinese ever were.

What were these spies infiltrating?
Harvard and businesses - not even typical guv or military stuff

As far as why not much attention - it is not really catchy except for the silliness of the episode and the cuteness of the red head.

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posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 05:58 AM
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This is OLD cold war stuff people.

You mean you all have never heard of prisoner exchanges?

Jesus Christ! This is just classic run of the mill crap. It's not even really news worthy, and yes we get back only 4 spies, but does that mean that's all the spies of ours they caught?

What did you expect? A firing squad?

You Obama haters have no freaking clue how the world works yet you somehow find fault with ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING the POTUS does. Even when he does the right thing, you bitch about it. It's shameless and bull [snip].

If you think you can do better, get elected to office, that way we can slander you and make fun of absolutely everything YOU do.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 07:52 AM
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The FBI has been tracking these "spies" for nearly 10 years. 10 years of work and the gig is up?? a quick guilty plea and now they are on a plane for home as we speak!!

Wow!! Does not compute!!! Did we learn all we need to know in the short week that we had them in custody? Doubtful.

I guess this can be expected from an administration that mirandizes terrorists and dismisses voter intimidation charges against those who are clearly guilty of a crime.

The US is soon to become Russia's new lap dog.

Sure, have an exchange but why so speedy?? 10 years of investigating for what?? Some of these spy couples have children that were born here in the US.

John L. Martin supervised 76 espionage cases during his 26 years at the Justice Department, but he’s never seen one end like this one.

Martin said swapping spies who have not been sentenced to time in prison, much less served it, is "all but unprecedented."

Martin could recall only one case in which an accused spy was swapped without first being convicted and sentenced to prison.



“For earlier exchanges, we worked for a number of years before we came up with a final number of people we would be willing to release,” among other considerations, he said.

"Both sides were doing that," he said of the Cold War era.

"We would arrest people, they would arrest people. As we arrested more people, the negotiations would intensify."

All of which makes the speed with which the latest case played out "absolutely unprecedented," he said.


Did we go soft because of their children??


The fate of their children were certainly "part of the negotiations, " Martin said -- another precedent.

The Russians will claim those who were Russian-born are their citizens, Martin said.

"For the children who are native-born Americans, the Constitution confers American citizenship," he noted.

But evidence that their parents' citizenship was falsely obtained will complicate matters.

"Children who are foreign-born and whose parents used false documentation to obtain their child's citizenship, places the children in jeopardy in terms of their status," Martin said.

Those over 18 can decide for themselves what to do, unless they are here illegally.

But in the end, Martin said, "the families will have to make the decisions" on the fate of their youngsters, he said.

"It puts them in their lap."

Some of the accused have been expressing deep worries about their childrens' well-being, but Martin said his sympathy for them has limits.

"They should have been thinking about that before taking on their spying assignments," he said.

blog.washingtonpost.com...

I will place blame for this debacle where it belongs. With the current administration!!!

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[edit on 9-7-2010 by jibeho]



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 08:22 AM
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Wow!! Does not compute!!! Did we learn all we need to know in the short week that we had them in custody? Doubtful.


No, we learned all we needed to learn in the 10 years that we were tracking these spies.

That's why it's called an investigation, learning about connections, finding out about contacts, finding how they operate, who is involved, what they were doing, what assets in country are compromised.

They were arrested after all that could be learned was learned. Evidence was collected for a case and then, the arrest warrant was issued.

Kinda stupid to arrest someone on suspicion of espionage without any evidence of said espionage isn't it?

So, yea, must be the current administrations fault



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 08:26 AM
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So, nothing can be learned from interrogation? How about some jail time and a little subsequent conversation? I would prefer some water boarding!!

Nice job defending the administration though. Mission accomplished. If it were only that simple.



posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 08:33 AM
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So, nothing can be learned from interrogation? How about some jail time and a little subsequent conversation? I would prefer some water boarding!!


Nice, torture, sure, why not? Hey, while were at it, let's put bamboo shunts under their fingernails and hook up a car battery up to their genitals! What is this, Nazi Germany?


Nice job defending the administration though. Mission accomplished. If it were only that simple.


Yea, a 10 year investigation is simple, following leads, getting court ordered wire taps, inserting plants. Yep, all simple.

You know what? You should work for the NSA or FBI or CIA, because obviously they are sorely lacking in the art of investigations and evidence collecting techniques.

And hell, while your at it, you might want to put in a resume with the state department because you obviously know way more about international relations than they do!

This has nothing to do with the CURRENT administration if this investigation has been going on for the last 10 years. Sounds to me, like most Neo-Cons you are just rewriting history to blame the current administration for the previous administrations failures.

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posted on Jul, 9 2010 @ 08:33 AM
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They pleaded guilty to being "unregistered agents of a foreign government," not "espionage." There are a lot of lobbyists, advertising men, reporters and TV "commentators" who would also be guilty of that charge. Their mission was terminated before they did any harm. In exchange, we get successful spies and a peace activist (who may or may not be a real spy as well.) Fair exchange. In Britain, the ten "deep cover" agents would have been "turned," but the US doesn't play by those rules.( Espionage, like treason, can be a very difficult charge to prove in court. None of the ten was caught with stolen cd-roms, microfilm, etc.)



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