Why we should support the New World Order

This will cause some healthy debate I am sure, possibly even some anger.

Right now the sheeple are busy scratching their heads wondering what in hell has happened to their country, their family values, their jobs, their savings, their futures even. We however know exactly what has happened to those things; they are being changed by a controlling force/group that was responsible for the mass change that happened in 1914-1918 and again in 1939-1945

1918 saw the move to petrochemical and pharmaceutical dependency

1945 saw the move to mass transportation through cars, buses and aeroplanes as well as modern banking

2010 will see a change of similar significance if not greater and unfortunately this change will come at a price. That price as with the previous changes will be millions of human lives.

Now think about what has happened over the last 50 years, life in general has been significantly better for the majority of the world than it would have been if we lives in the previous century. Granted for millions it would have been no different and for millions it has been worse.

Now think about how you change the world if you wanted to make it a better place and you were going to start changing things back in 1900. So we want more jobs, open borders, movement of people, women's rights, minority rights, health care, social welfare, democracy and of course peace along with other very important aspects of the modern world.

There is not a single country in 1900 that would have allowed 3 of those targets let alone all of them to be introduced. So how is it being done?

When you want a child to do something you have several choices:

1) tell them to do it or they will be punished - they don't like it and try to rebel
2) ask them to do it - 50/50 may or may not comply
3) manipulate them so that they want to do it - 95% it works

So to bring the world to a better place we have to be manipulated for the greater good, or we will continue to advance and slowly create a society that dominates, kills or marginalises anyone or anything that obstructs them.

Personally I think the best way to reduce the number of people that will die is to support the change and to do so openly.

1) we want a one world government
2) we want an end to war
3) we want to live in an environmentally clean world
4) we want freedom to travel the world unrestricted
5) we want equality for all (that means ALL)
6) we want it NOW

If we do not do this then you can be assured that what is to come will have to be so despicable that the borders are broken down between nations. I.E. Mexican running over the border into the USA because of a natural disaster. The USA running into Canada and Mexico because of a natural disaster or attack.

When this happens and people are used to the blending of peoples then the idea of a country become more akin to our idea of a county or state. Once this happens you no longer have a war with a neighbour and need soldiers. Instead you have political decisions that may result in a a legal dispute which will end up in the high court. Any physical action or enforcement is now done using the police, and so it goes on, with economies, morals, religion and every other aspect of our lives.

In the end though peace is achieved; granted a very high price has been paid, but if it is a case of pay the price with a peaceful bountiful future, or pay the price and continue as we are killing each other for greed and power then I choose the first option.

One problem though is that we do not know who is in control! maybe they are taking us to a peaceful future, then again maybe they are not! The only thing we can realistically do is stand up and insist that the government tell the people the truth. Is everything that is happening due to a global event which will kill off 99% of us? or are we under attack form a powerful group, country, religion or even from a non-earth based threat.

We are not given enough credit as a race. I believe that if we were told the world was about to end, Methane bubble, meteorite impact, pole shift etc they world would not descend into total chaos. I also believe that even if that were to happen we have the right to know the truth so we can make peace with our families, friends and most importantly ourselves.

And no disclosure should not be an hour, day or even a week before. People need time to understand what is happening to us, we need that as humans, as we are sentient beings!

If it turns out that we are not under attack from aliens (False Flag), CME, Meteroite then the people need to take control of their governments. the USA, Europe etc should have a sit in. A peaceful general strike for the entire government to stand down and control returned to the people with 100% transparency. There is no such thing as national security only the protection of our freedoms, nearly all of which have been taken away from us by our governments to combat an enemy we all know were created and continue to be funded by our own governments!

Time is running short, in what I believe to be a matter of weeks events will unfold that we the people will be unable to stop. You must now decide do we go along with the proposed changes and follow as sheep or do we say "OK hold on we will make these changes but not if you continue with this policy of death and destruction!". The other option of course is defiance, refuse to be lead down this path and resist until your last breath.

The people were warned before but did not listen, now you have the benefit of hindsight.




[edit on 27-6-2010 by theregonnakillme]

[edit on 27-6-2010 by theregonnakillme]

Originally posted by theregonnakillme

I believe to be a matter of weeks events will unfold that we the people will be unable to stop.

I believe you are correct.

Originally posted by theregonnakillme
3) manipulate them so that they want to do it - 95% it works

Too much stick, not enough carrot.

Sadly, I agree with you, gonna strap myself in and see the furore this causes.

S+F Sir.

It all comes down to whether you are more for humanity as a whole, or humans as individuals [Which may still benefit us as a whole, but the process would be muuuuch slower].

The most ideal of course would be a path with minimal suffering, but with progression. The individual.

On the other hand, those for a New World Order are more radical that they are blinded by their ideals of a 'perfect' world that those in their way are subject to suffering, and death.


I myself would prefer Individualism. Rather than just causing our species to suffer in pursuit of an ideal that never seems to get closer;

a perfect world, with a perfect society.


This is a nice thread, brings up some necessary thoughts and reminders of why we are here on ATS.

reply to post by theregonnakillme

2) we want an end to war 3) we want to live in an environmentally clean world 4) we want freedom to travel the world unrestricted 5) we want equality for all (that means ALL)

Wars are usually started by those that will control us in the NWO. The big poluting companies are owned by the same elite.

In a NWO world travel will be equally or more restricted, becqause they can.

We will all be equal. We'll all be slaves.

The problems that are solved by supporting the NWO, are problems that are mainly caused by the people behind the NWO in the first place.

Maybe it would be smarter to remove these people from power, instead of giving them more.

Wow. Support the NWO? They want to kill most of the people on the planet. Not their families mind you but mine and families like mine. And those that are left will be slaves to them in THEIR WORLD. Not our world. You go ahead and support the NWO and I'll go ahead and die trying to stop you.

Be careful when people talk about equality.

There are two types of equality.

Equality forced through suppression (By who are we forced? And because that question should have to be brought up, are the 'who's equal as well? Obviously not if they have the ability to suppress.)

and

Equality under the law, and freedom of expression.

The second is what we (hopefully) strive for.

[edit on 27-6-2010 by BlubberyConspiracy]

reply to post by BlubberyConspiracy


Sadly, some feel and can argue a good point that with the US that type pf freedom was exactly what the founding father were trying to create but along the way our system was hijacked by corrupt bureaucrats and big business.

reply to post by theregonnakillme


why not manipulate people into uniting as a species while retaining there freedom rather then manipulating them to gain more power?

reply to post by theregonnakillme


Yes, I originally hated the idea of the NWO when i first found out 5 yrs ago, hated it with a passion, but look at it logically.

Think about where there is conflict at work, where each of you has a different view on how something should be done, now if each individual was to go ahead this is counterproductive, the company suffers and therefore there is no benefit to any party. By a manager coming along and deciding, we the team will all do it this way, the company will perform better, and will benefit all parties (yes, it depends on the competence of the manager, but for illustration lets just assume they know what they're doing)

All of these people see the benefit, and this is just by consolidating the power into one set of hands.

Imagine a world where all the people were pulling in the same direction, where we would all benefit.

In my own opinion the biggest problem is not the NWO, but the very opposite, as long as there are people in dissent, then humanity will never come together in an effective way. WAKE UP to the great things the NWO will mean for us, and accept it, for I believe it will happen anyway.

A heirarchical power structure montrosity that's entirely inefficient, oppressive to the people, and set on world domination? Sure, I'll support that.

Christians couldn't go along with this. I know most people don't care what the Christians do; but to play along, let's look at the shear number of Christians in America that by definition, could be leery of a one world government, and anything to do with a one world religion. The following data is a sample from Wikipedia. en.wikipedia.org... Only 13% claim no religion.

The data is Church, year reported, membership in thousands, and clergy/pastors/ministers visit link for more information

African Methodist Episcopal Church 1999 - 2500 7741
African Methodist Episcopal Zion Church 2002 3226 1431 3252
American Baptist Association 1998 1760 275 1740
Amish, Old Order 1993 898 227 3592
American Baptist Churches USA 1998 3800 1507 4145
Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America 1998 220 65 263
Armenian Apostolic Church 1998 28 200 25
Assemblies of God 1998 11937 2526 18148
Baptist Bible Fellowship International 1997 4500 1200 -
Baptist General Conference 1998 876 141 -
Baptist Missionary Association of America 1999 1334 235 1525
Christian and Missionary Alliance, The 1998 1964 346 1629
Christian Brethren (Plymouth Brethren) 1997 1150 100 -
Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) 1997 3818 879 3419
Independent Christian Churches/Churches of Christ 1998 5579 1072 5525
Christian Congregation, Inc., The 1998 1438 117 1436
Christian Methodist Episcopal Church 1983 2340 719 -
Christian Reformed Church in North America 1998 733 199 655
Church of God in Christ 1991 15300 5500 28988
Church of God of Prophecy 1997 1908 77 2000
Church of God (Anderson, IN) 1998 2353 234 3034
Church of God (Cleveland, Tennessee) 1995 6060 753 3121
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 2005 12753 5691 38259
Church of the Brethren 1997 1095 141 827
Church of the Nazarene 1998 5101 627 4598
Churches of Christ 1999 15000 1500 14500
Conservative Baptist Association of America 1998 1200 200 -
Community of Christ 1998 1236 140 19319
Coptic Orthodox Church 2003 200 1000 200
Cumberland Presbyterian Church 1998 774 87 634
Episcopal Church 1996 7390 2365 8131
Evangelical Covenant Church, The 1998 628 97 607
Evangelical Free Church of America, The 1995 1224 243 1936
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America 1998 10862 5178 9646
Evangelical Presbyterian Church 1998 187 61 262
Free Methodist Church of North America 1998 990 73 -
Full Gospel Fellowship 1999 896 275 2070
General Association of General Baptists 1997 790 72 1085
General Association of Regular Baptist Churches 1998 1415 102 -
U.S. Conference of Mennonite Brethren Churches 1996 368 82 590
Grace Gospel Fellowship 1992 128 60 160
Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America 1998 523 1955 596
Independent Fundamental Churches of America 1999 659 62 -
International Church of the Foursquare Gospel 1998 1851 238 4900
International Council of Community Churches 1998 150 250 182
International Pentecostal Holiness Church 1998 1716 177 1507
Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod, The 1998 6218 2594 5227
Mennonite Church USA 2005 943 114 -
National Association of Congregational Christian Churches 1998 416 67 534
National Association of Free Will Baptists 1998 2297 210 2800
National Baptist Convention of America, Inc. 1987 2500 3500 8000
National Baptist Convention, USA, Inc. 1992 33000 8200 32832
National Missionary Baptist Convention of America 1992 - 2500 -
Orthodox Church in America 1998 625 1000 700
Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, Inc. 1998 1750 1500 4500
Pentecostal Church of God 1998 1237 104 -
Pentecostal Church International, United 2008 28351 4037 22881
Presbyterian Church in America 1997 1340 280 1642
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) 1998 11260 3575 9390
Progressive National Baptist Convention, Inc. 1995 2000 2500

reply to post by AlSayr


amazing how fear can recruit aint it? just think the only reason why there are so many christians is b/c people didnt want to be killed being claimed to be a witch or told that they were gonna burn in eternal flame if they didnt become christian or better yet tortured until they switched to or died..hmmm sounds like christianity breeds fear! as it has survived and lives off it

if someone is not chirstian the herd will attack him only politicians who announce they are chrtians get elected in a occupation where separation of church and state religion still rules the roost and who is atop that roost christianity!

IF

the so-called powers that be (and they got no power over me except what i allow) were even a little bit WISE and had just a smidgen of COMMON SENSE and FORESIGHT, i might agree.

but look at the mess that the world is in!
if there are demi-powers ruling this world, they are doing the worst job ever!

and think about this:
what good is demi-power if there is no one to exert one's weight against? slaves and elite...what kind of world would that be for the power-hungry?

their power rests in the people. without the people, there is no power.

reply to post by metalholic


Well yes it is. Fear is something the Church has used forever with the eternal hell facade. I don't believe in hell being eternal; not going to preach on this post though.

To be fair though; my post is relevant even if you hate all Christians. Because there is a majority of them, they would not be interested in jumping on the side of the NWO. Which is what thread is about. Peace.

I have a question that i've been asking myself for quite some time about NWO:
Is the NWO is a criteria for something more, something we fail to see?

NWO is not an achievement in itself...there's something more.

What is it ? thats the question
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oh ! will the third of poeple on earth wich have been denied food will be fed?

i think not

[edit on 27-6-2010 by SSimon]

reply to post by theregonnakillme


In all fairness that is a good question. I even wrote a thread on the topic.
For your reading pleasure.

Enjoy.
NWO or Type 1 Civilization?

PEACE

Slay