Hostile Takeover : Is BP PLC Vulnerable Enough For A Corporate Raid?

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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When it comes to stock, shareholders, and Wall Street the C.E.O.'s are comparable to snakes in suit.

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With the recent idiocy of BP PLC's corporate comments about "caring about the small people", nothing is more evident these people are not dealing with reality, thinking their corporate towers will defend them from us in regards to the Deepwater Horizon disaster.

But a thought came to me about another shark swimming in the proverbial financial waters.

The waters are not just filled with oil, killing off the ecosystem of the Gulf of Mexico, but the financial water are chummed up with blood in the proverbial shark tank that is Wall Street.



The waters they are churning not just with oil but with blood and the sharks are about to come out.

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Be sure and visit LadySkadi's thread, about the corporate world it will frame and reference your thoughts on how Corporate America, if you are unfamiliar with it.

Snakes in Suits: When Psychopaths Go to Work; A Review

You can as well visit my Global Meltdown thread about the Federal Reserve.

The Creature from Jekyll Island : A Second Look at the Federal Reserve



We have yet to seen the last of big news from BP PLC especially considering they are now trying to shift blame from them to the company subcontracting their oil rig in the Gulf.

The C.E.O.'s are squirming like a predator caught in a bear-trap and drowning in their own oil.

More obvious parts of this pattern was an attempted media blackout by BP PLC by their not releasing information for almost two days in regards to the Deepwater Horizon disaster.

Not to mention Venezuela had a rig, owned by BP go down, back in May.

The Gulf of B.P. Oil Disaster : A National Emergency Situation and Smoke On the Water

When it comes to Wall Street and Washington D.C. the sharks are circling in on their prey.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Wall Street

Wall Street is a street in Lower Manhattan, New York City, New York, USA.

It runs east from Broadway to South Street on the East River, through the historical center of the Financial District.

It is the first permanent home of the New York Stock Exchange; over time Wall Street became the name of the surrounding geographic neighborhood.

Wall Street is also shorthand (or a metonym) for the "influential financial interests" of the American financial industry, which is centered in the New York City area.

Anchored by Wall Street, New York City is the financial capital of the world and is home to the New York Stock Exchange, the world's largest stock exchange by market capitalization of its listed companies.

Several major U.S. stock and other exchanges remain headquartered on Wall Street and in the Financial District, including the NYSE, NASDAQ, AMEX, NYMEX, and NYBOT.


Other People's Money speech by Danny DeVito


So, ATS, do you think BP PLC is open for a hostile takeover?

Yes, there will be plenty of people who want to see them flounder, but the question is will they be taken over.

With their shareholders having their dividends suspended and Obama ordering $20 Billion set aside, for the people to make claim over, for any loss of income, life, and ecosystem repair as a general slush fund, this corporation is looking more and more like an appetizing meal for any corporate raiders out there with enough money to swoop in.

Right after the clean up is begun in earnest this stock which plummeted will be an easy target.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Corporate Raid

A corporate raid is an American English business term for buying a large interest in a corporation and then using voting rights to enact measures directed at increasing the share value.

The measures might include replacing top executives, downsizing operations, or liquidating the company.

By the end of the 1980s, management of many large publicly traded corporations reacted negatively to the threat of potential hostile takeover or corporate raid and pursued drastic defensive measures including poison pills, golden parachutes and increasing debt levels on the company's balance sheet.

In later years, many of the corporate raiders would be re-characterized as "activist shareholders".


When it comes to stocks plummeting the prices going down panics the standard shareholder, but there are people within the corporate world, who are salivating over BP PLC.

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If anyone has not read the book Agent of Influence I highly recommend it.

Agent of Influence




Amazon Review :

Readers able to shoulder the technical Wall Street details that overburden this thriller set in the cut-throat world of investment banking will enjoy its bristling view of the mercenary side of moneymaking.

The acquisition of News/Worldweek, a conglomerate of American newspapers, magazines and TV stations, will give Marcel Bresson, a French publisher with a shadowy past and a secret agenda, unequaled media power.

Mergers and acquisitions specialist Jayson Lyman will make a fortune if he can structure Bresson's purchase, but Lyman, suspecting that his client isn't who he claims to be, is soon on a trail of money that leads inexorably to Russia.

With the help of an attractive Senate staffer (who doubles as sidekick and romantic interest), Lyman works to sabotage the deal from within.

While Aaron ( State Scarlet ) brings considerable knowledge of international finance to his second novel, the story's suspense is frequently lost in the miasma of monetary doubletalk delivered by its driven, humorless hero.

Copyright 1988 Reed Business Information, Inc.


The book is all about corporate raids, espionage, and hostile takeovers and is awesome.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Takeover

In business, a takeover is the purchase of one company (the target) by another (the acquirer, or bidder).

In the UK, the term refers to the acquisition of a public company whose shares are listed on a stock exchange, in contrast to the acquisition of a private company.


Another excellent thread you might read, is tothetenthpower's on, Financial Assassins.

The Economic Hit Man—The Shadow Government’s Most Useful Weapon

Anyone who has read books, watched movies, or purchased stock knows that BP PLC is undergoing not only a physical ordeal, not that I care or give a damn, but a financial one as their shares drop below the mark, while they are not only being investigated, but watched worldwide, assistance was offered and turned away, but the Government cries through Obama's claims of benevolence to try to get us off the oil teat.

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Wall Street, just like Washington D.C. is a money-making opportunity, the difference between those corporations trading via the Security and Exchange Commission is they trade on money, timing, and opportunity, and D.C. trades on backroom deals, timing, and opportunities, just like the current political climate circulating around BP PLC.

It is of course, those of us sitting in the middle, the citizens, no matter which country, who are caught in the crossfire between the frenzy it is to make or break a company, or a politicians making a name for themselves, and we suffer, while they look down and laugh.

It just does not matter an iota to me if BP PLC ever recuperates its losses, I care however about our environment and the ecosystem their oil is destroying, but if I had billions I would buy as many shares as I could when the dust settles, just to vote the current Board of Directors out on their boney butts for screwing up and reacting slowly.

This is one of those disasters which like the Exxon Valdez, people will not only suffer for decades, but will not likely ever forget, because our economy is already in its death throes.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Exxon Valdez Oil Spill : Litigation and Clean-Up Costs

In the case of Baker v. Exxon, an Anchorage jury awarded $287 million for actual damages and $5 billion for punitive damages.

The punitive damages amount was equal to a single year's profit by Exxon at that time.

To protect itself in case the judgment was affirmed, Exxon obtained a $4.8 billion credit line from J.P. Morgan & Co.

This in turn gave J.P. Morgan the opportunity to create the first modern credit default swap in 1994, so that J.P. Morgan would not have to hold so much money in reserve (8% of the loan under Basel I) against the risk of Exxon's default.

Meanwhile, Exxon appealed the ruling, and the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ordered the original judge, Russel Holland, to reduce the punitive damages.

On December 6, 2002, the judge announced that he had reduced the damages to $4 billion, which he concluded was justified by the facts of the case and was not grossly excessive.

Exxon appealed again and the case returned to court to be considered in light of a recent Supreme Court ruling in a similar case, which caused Judge Holland to increase the punitive damages to $4.5 billion, plus interest.

After more appeals, and oral arguments heard by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on January 27, 2006, the damages award was cut to $2.5 billion on December 22, 2006.

The court cited recent Supreme Court rulings relative to limits on punitive damages.


When it comes to corporations, anything is possible, hostile takeover, bankruptcy, or just dump the responsibility onto those subcontracting out under them, and BP PLC and the oil industry is capable of any of those things and all of those things, and it would not surprise me in the least is there was a combination of all of those soon to happen.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]




posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:28 PM
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Great thread Spartan.

I would not be supprised if Exxon or Shell or any of the other big oil companies came in and tried a hostile take over of the company.

With it's stocks in the pucket and no dividends being paid, shareholders would be more willing to accept such a scenario if the other company could guarantee dividents or other perks.

I think they need to be very wary of this concept and prepare for pressure from all sides.

This may be BP's nail in the coffin.

It actually makes me warm and fuzzy inside to think that at least they will be destroyed by their own idiocy.

~Keeper



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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State Street Corporation (biggest holder of BP, EXXON, Halliburton, and Chevron will be the major winner in all this)

And ofcourse Shell with as biggest holder Jacob Rothschild.

The family stepped out of the goldmarket and into the oilmarket some years back and with being on both sides like in wars, you can never go wrong.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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Still reading the opening post - but wanted to put this information out there:
From today's NY Times...

Oil Execs. Break Rank in Testimony


Seeking to insulate their companies from the continuing crisis in the gulf and the political backlash in Washington, the leaders of Exxon Mobil, Chevron, Shell and ConocoPhillips insisted at a Congressional hearing that they would not have made the mistakes that led to the well explosion and the deaths of 11 rig workers on April 20.

“We would not have drilled the well the way they did,” said Rex W. Tillerson, chief executive of Exxon Mobil.

“It certainly appears that not all the standards that we would recommend or that we would employ were in place,” said John S. Watson, chairman of Chevron.

“It’s not a well that we would have drilled in that mechanical setup,” said Marvin E. Odum, president of Shell.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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reply to post by tothetenthpower
 


That's exactly what I'm talking about here, tothetenthpower, the sharks are coming out.

When it comes to corporations, the hostile takeover, is one of the biggest conspiracies.

It happens between the corporations and unless you're on the inside, or if someone leaks information, or you're following details in the Washington Post or even perhaps the New York Times, you are rare to know exactly what is going on, on the inside.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:39 PM
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reply to post by Grey Magic
 


To the biggest shareholders go the spoils of war in the corporate war on money.

Grey Magic, can you imagine those in the Board of Directors, right now?

I would have to say they are crapping their pants not just because of the oil leaking.

But because of the stock, shareholders, and watching corporate sharks circling.

Just like predators.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:41 PM
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Of course, they are going to insulate themselves, so BP PLC does not take them down.

When it comes to oil, and regulations, and the industry as a whole, they know how the game is played.

When Washington D.C. speaks of regulations the corporate lawyers are on overtime.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:43 PM
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and I should mention Obama's teacher George Soros, he has big stakes in South American oil.

And a takeover won't happen soon, the reserves of BP are big enough to handle this, in the long term, if they can cap it with 2 relief wells, they'll get their money back next year.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by Grey Magic]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:49 PM
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Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by tothetenthpower
 


That's exactly what I'm talking about here, tothetenthpower, the sharks are coming out.

When it comes to corporations, the hostile takeover, is one of the biggest conspiracies.

It happens between the corporations and unless you're on the inside, or if someone leaks information, or you're following details in the Washington Post or even perhaps the New York Times, you are rare to know exactly what is going on, on the inside.


Another thing Spartan,

BP hired Goldman Sachs among others to help them with their shares and what not.

Don't you think that Goldman will pass off some insider information to the highest bidder? I'm sure they will.

The financial institutions that help BP operated and that are suppose to keep them "cozy" through all this will be BP's downfall.

This is how the insider trading and the take over will occur.

~Keeper



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by Grey Magic
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


and I should mention Obama's teacher George Soros, he has big stakes in South American oil.

And a takeover won't happen soon, the reserves of BP are big enough to handle this, in the long term, if they can cap it with 2 relief wells, they'll get their money back next year.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by Grey Magic]


Well, that's something significant, I wonder if people noticed Venezuela?


Quote from : Venezuela Offshore Rig Sinks

LIMA, Peru — An offshore natural gas exploration rig leased to Venezuela’s national oil company sank off the coast of northeastern Venezuela and forced the authorities to evacuate all 95 of its workers, President Hugo Chávez announced early Thursday.

It was unclear if the sinking posed an environmental risk.

In an attempt to calm nerves after the explosion of an offshore drilling rig last month in the Gulf of Mexico, Venezuelan energy officials said that there would be no harm since security mechanisms were quickly put in place to stop any leaking.

The cause of the sinking was unclear


Between Venezuela, the Gulf of Mexico, Texas, and West Virginia, there's a lot of oil.

And more and more of it is beginning to look like sabotage.

I wonder if it is mere accidents or "accidents".

[edit on 16-6-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


The Green Energy agenda is what's being pushed by these incidents.

I always said, that if you can't scare the people into thinking the environment is going to crap then you have to MAKE the environment go to crap.

This is "Eco Terrorism".

Welcome to 2010 folks, where new systems of fear are being deployed as more and more people wake up.

~Keeper



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:55 PM
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reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


yeah there should be a thread about all the weird oil spills around the world, something really fishy going on, another one in the North Sea near Norway.

OIl Spills in the noth sea tripled



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 08:57 PM
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That's how insider trading is done, someone on the inside, selling information.

It is a constant worry of corporations with Industrial Espionage among other things.

That is what the book Agent of Influence is all about.

I wrote a thread discussing using the Global Warming con as a means to force us into vehicles with OnStar, and we just had G.M. bailed out, through our Government.

The "Global Warming Conspiracy" Revealed...H.A.A.R.P., OnStar, and Tesla...

I wrote the above thread two years ago but I did not know about BP PLC then.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 09:00 PM
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reply to post by Grey Magic
 


Wow, just how many events are happening, which ones are linked to BP PLC?

This is looking more and more fishy, with less fish, and more oil in the water.

Is the World Government murdering off all marine life or are these terror-related?

I have to wonder because this is getting majorly serious now.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 12:29 AM
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If what I thought went down and the way my sources put it no.

The money IS in the relief wells. The majority will be solid for future cash earnings.

At max you will see coperate fines (big if) and at most some scapegoats in upper management. The most brilliant ploy they could use is a error in internal security and communications.

great thread.

BTW do not forget to keep notifing me of your threads I enjoy reading them.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 12:34 AM
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Thanks for the reply.

Yes, scapegoats will become evident, soon enough.

Throwing people under the bus just to make a semblance of culpability.

Meanwhile, back at headquarters, shredding of documents, and the blame game.

Take a look at my profile there's a few new threads.



posted on Jun, 17 2010 @ 05:04 AM
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Great thread Buddy, highly plausible theory.

There is definitely something going on. A possible takeover of BP is not out of the question. They seem to have enough capital and sufficient banking facilities to handle the economic cost. However I can see them losing all worldwide deep water drilling and exploration due to this, and this is probably where the future of oil drilling lies. The more we exhaust the easy to get at reserves, the more we'll be forced to drill deeper and deeper.

This may be a very long term plan to destabilise BP, forcing them to relinquish rights to some of the more complicated drilling fields.

But as you and I know mate, TPTB are patient, very patient.

Having said that, the furore generated over this may point to a rapid decline in BPs fortunes, in that case a takeover may be a lot quicker than any of us imagine.

Great thread!!


S+F




posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 06:32 PM
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To the TPTB



To hell with T and C....

SKL do you want to put together a corporation to raid the bastards. If you do I will begin to put together the corporation...

My girlfriend keeps asking what type of business I want to go in...

From the movie Hook

Wendy Darling:


Wendy Darling: So, Peter, you've become a pirate.


You in SKL...
Stage one incorporate LLC, Authorised to raise money for itself as a holding company..

Once X cash collected begin the raid... BP has potential to be a very profitable company..

Since your better organised I have a huge suggestion, You want the CEO's spot


Thats right I am suggesting we organize the corporate raid...

To the Mods: We ll offer stocks later... This is a legal post by the way... I am starting a conspiracy right here. I am merely suggesting we make a difference nor of note have I made any actual transactions...

If its not legal by T and C





SKL:

I believe we can post any results here because it is a conversation about how we might
make a difference

I am curious do the rest of you think this could be done?

A the mods... I am trying to start some more in depth controversy over some threads that have deserved a little more views and responses...

Please do post your response to the ideas I suggested...

[edit on 7-7-2010 by ripcontrol]



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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Well, considering the Exxon Valdez is still affecting the environment, more than 20 years after the fact, I can see BP PLC's stock being in the whole, for a long time.

Meaning, any time would be a viable buying time, and a corporate takeover is plausible.

It is just too bad those of us who know this do not have the money to do it.


Originally posted by ripcontrol
To hell with T and C....


You may say that, but you would be a meat-head, being banned, and miss ATS.


Originally posted by ripcontrol
SKL do you want to put together a corporation to raid the bastards. If you do I will begin to put together the corporation...


Unfortunately, the answer to that question, is I have zero money.

Whether I want to become a corporate raider, or not.

Or even if I wanted to have even a slot in the Flea Market.


Originally posted by ripcontrol
My girlfriend keeps asking what type of business I want to go in...


I suggest something online if you're going to open a business.

I loved Peter Panning literally becoming a "pirate" via corporate raids in Hook.

It was the quintessential double-play of origin verses becoming that which he hated most.


Originally posted by ripcontrol
You in SKL...
Stage one incorporate LLC, Authorised to raise money for itself as a holding company..


Again, I have zero money, to register a business.

And when it comes to business I am ruthless and cut-throat.

I have just learned far too many things about corporations.


Originally posted by ripcontrol
Once X cash collected begin the raid... BP has potential to be a very profitable company..


If I was to take over BP PLC I would maximize profits and shut off all losses.

While doing the right thing in regards to how business was run.

And everything would have a contingency plan organized with it or heads would roll.


Originally posted by ripcontrol
Since your better organised I have a huge suggestion, You want the CEO's spot


I am already working towards being a multi-cultural and multi-level conglomerate owner.

My biggest problem is cash-flow.

And finding an Angel Investor or Venture Capital.


Originally posted by ripcontrol
Thats right I am suggesting we organize the corporate raid...


I know all the in's, out's, and how-to's.


Originally posted by ripcontrol
To the Mods: We ll offer stocks later... This is a legal post by the way... I am starting a conspiracy right here. I am merely suggesting we make a difference nor of note have I made any actual transactions...


Therein lies the rub in that it would violate the terms and conditions.


Originally posted by ripcontrol
SKL:

I believe we can post any results here because it is a conversation about how we might
make a difference

I am curious do the rest of you think this could be done?

A the mods... I am trying to start some more in depth controversy over some threads that have deserved a little more views and responses...

Please do post your response to the ideas I suggested...

[edit on 7-7-2010 by ripcontrol]


The over all problem is I do not do business, with friends or family, just as I do not date co-workers, people get hurt, feelings are hurt, and everything changes.

Anything regarding business, of any kind, would be simply business.

Contracts, expected results, and follow-through or heads will roll.



posted on Jul, 7 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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A takeover is not only possible , it is more than likely probable .

BP hired Dick Cheney's press secretary as a spokeswoman .

Whoever succeeds in the takeover , be assured that Dick Halliburton Cheney will be right in the mix of it all .





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