reply to post by Gargamel
I have studied this issue extensively, in an actual academic setting
and without getting into every detail of the past 60+ years (which I will
state can not be ignored) I genuinely believe that the Israeli government is simply adhering to the terrorist tactics that gave birth to the nation.
The Israeli government would love nothing more than for the Palestinians to pack and move elsewhere, anywhere else, they don't care, so long as it is
not anywhere that Israel has defined as its borders.
You asked what acts of aggression have the Palestinians committed and acknowledged the random rocket, I'll include suicide bombings (which have not
been a fan favorite recently). The Palestinians, when launching an attack is relatively ineffective, they maybe kill or harm 50 people at the most,
typically you can count the total number on one hand. The retaliation from Israel typically includes a few hundred harmed or killed, at least.
At this point, I tend to believe that the Israeli government is in self preservation mode, not from outside threats, but from the growing Palestinian
There was a study done a few years ago (I can locate it if you like) that stated based only upon birth rates, the Palestinians will out number the
Jewish Israeli's I believe by 2025 (again I'd have to double check) this means the Arab population within Israel, which does not necessarily include
Gaza and the West Bank, although once a majority is achieved in Israel it may be/would be easier to allow access to Israel proper from those areas.
Despite what some may poorly believe, there is a substantial Arab population that lives within Israel. They are Muslim and Christian (typically) and
they are Israeli citizens. By launching an attack upon a population where you have excessive deaths you are limiting population growth. I also must
include that Arab Christians are treated exactly the same as Arab Muslims, not that I personally feel there aught to be a difference. However, many
media outlets like to herd people that all Palestinians are Muslims, and for some reason all Muslims are evil to Christians and Jews. If an
evangelical (which I am not one of) were to visit Israel they would quickly learn that there Christian "family" is deemed just as evil, for the
simply fact that they are not Jewish Israeli's.
Now, I stated at the beginning that Israel was simply adhering to the terrorist tactics that brought forth the birth of the nation. I stand by this
statement and if you are interested, I wrote a thread awhile ago where you can read further into the subject
(you needn't reply, I'm not fishing just for a more in depth study).
Now, really who am I to judge, my country was also formed by a group of people that would today be deemed terrorist in nature, but I however am
willing to admit it.
Now, in context to what I believe you were getting to, which is the attack on the floatilla, I believe that it was nothing short of an act of piracy,
there is no difference between what the IDF did and what Somali pirates do. They hijacked a ship, lied about the initial events (they did not use
paintballs good grief), and then attempt act as if they were the victims when the passengers/workers attempted to fight them off.
The IDF was NOT a victim, they boarded a ship in open waters, which makes them pirates. Thanks to this most recent example, I now have lost the
meaning of terrorism along with antisemitism, both are now two words that have no meaning other than propaganda definitions to me which is supposed to
mean "evil person" but now mean "someone who Zioinists or a nation does not like for any possible reason, and may be speaking the truth".