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posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 01:28 AM
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10 years after droping out the first time, I have enrolled for the past two+ years to finish my college degree. A person that I have spoken to for quite some time told me about an incident that bothered me a bit, especially after watching the Godlikeproductions(GLP) site throught the aussie bloke deal.

He said that his neighbor clicked on a child porn link and within a few hours he was arrested by the FBI. Is this possible, or is it like I assumed and there is more to his arrest?

The twisted freaks on GLP would commonly post links that were represented as something legit, and would come up porn. If one would turn out to be kiddie porn, would you be responsible for a crime?




posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 01:47 AM
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i doubt it.....

i dont really know though



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 02:14 AM
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If the F.B.I. was already monitoring the site then they would have the IP address for anyone that accessed the site.

There also would be a record at GLP of the bozo that posted the site though.



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 06:20 AM
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I think it would be a slap on the wrist unless you started downloading it, or they later found saved files on your hard drive...or if they find you e-mailed or forwarded or distributed in any way...

Then you're going down.

I think most of the time for any casual or accidential viewers they just make a list for later use...titled "People who are not going to be President."



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 06:31 AM
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You can basically expect that some child porn sites,especially those that can be found with the most common search requests,are fronts for law enforcement agencies.

U.S law would prohibit them being based in the U.S because you can't break the law even to catch others that do it.So sites are set up in countries with less strict laws and monitored.

My advice is just don't go looking for it and if you come across one accidently get out as soon as you realise what it is after saving the URL and report it.

But if you find it and get caught I have no sympathy whatsoever.



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 07:40 AM
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There are a few sites for child advocacy agencies sponsored by the government that advise you just to shut it down and clear your history and cache if you find it. Then you're advised to report the URL to your local law enforcement agency and they will determine how to proceed. Just FYI, never ever email child porn links or anything like that to law enforcement, you're committing the crime you're reporting by doing that.

That would be a dangerous gambit also, they'd have to search out child porn to put the link up to it. John Bull is correct, if you can find it easily, its most likely a government sting. Operation Falcon is the name of the government's program to catch and disband child pornography rings. They go after the "big fish" in the industry and its doubtful they'd arrest someone for merely clicking a link. Most likely what you heard was an urban legend, unless that person was involved in child pornography more than your friend was aware of.



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 06:32 PM
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I thought that there must be a lot more to it than what was described to me. There have been others arrested in this area, after a very long investigation. The person that told me this is a rather strait forward guy, not the type to exagerate things.

A personal note: I have four kids and the thought of child porn or molestation makes me sick. Give 'em the chair!!



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by mo_trot


A personal note: I have four kids and the thought of child porn or molestation makes me sick. Give 'em the chair!!

or just turn them over to the gen. population I'd love to take out a few



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 06:48 PM
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It has been some arrest around were I live for child porn but this person had it in their working place, one was a male teacher he had it at the school and another one was in the military base he had it at his desktop, now how stupid that can be.


The scariest thing is that the teacher at the high school was one of my daughter's teacher went she was in high school and 3 years latter after the scandal and arrest my daughter's friends say that they knew about that but no body said anything about it.


I believe the FBI maybe posting this phony sites to trap people.



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 06:51 PM
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I remember clicking on a link here at ATS for something in a thread, and it went there! (glp)(NOT for porn!)

Should I be worried?

I did a search at ats for the site and found MANY links to there!



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 06:53 PM
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There was a rather interesting reverse bust not too long ago. Hard to give it a name. Usually people are busted for posting or downloading child porn. But in this case it was the kid posting her own pics. I believe it was a 15 year old girl posting sexually explicit pics of herself on the net. What an idiot.



posted on Jun, 8 2004 @ 07:50 PM
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I was doing a search the other day for something (not porn) and got porn. It got my attention, and the best of me, so I clicked through a couple of pics for the hell of it and all of a sudden, there were some pics of very young looking girls.

I'd guess that the ages were between 13-15 years old, I immediately closed that page, closed my web browser and cleared my history and cookies.

Just the thought of the pics that came up being "children" made me sick.

I have a daughter who will be 12 next month, I can't even imagine... argghhh
I would absolutely destroy someone.... enough said.

have a good day all.



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
I believe the FBI maybe posting this phony sites to trap people.


I don't know for certain if the FBI does that, but they do pose as teens and children in chatrooms and AIM to arrange meetings with people at then bust them. Its a sticky subject in my opinion, because I don't agree with their tactics however I'm glad they are getting people like that off the street.

I don't know if you live in the US, but child pornography is considered sexual predator behavoir, therefore anyone found guilty has be registered. You might want to check out this site: Sexual Predators database
. It should tell you the locations of know offenders by state, so if you have children its a valuable resource. Adults too, I was able to find out a serial rapist lives on my mother-in-laws' street
.



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:23 AM
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I have used the database before, at least is none around my nice neighborhood but I the town were I live is many of them.


One thing we found in the area where I live, it was illegal gambling.



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by RANT
I think most of the time for any casual or accidential viewers they just make a list for later use...titled "People who are not going to be President."



Heh. In the UK they mark 'em down as "possible candidates to become judges".



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by Indy
But in this case it was the kid posting her own pics. I believe it was a 15 year old girl posting sexually explicit pics of herself on the net. What an idiot.


AOL and all those Hot or Not sites are downright scary. It takes about 3 seconds to realize when some 15 yo girl is using daddy's webcam.

What the heck are people thinking? Letting their kids have computers and webcams in their room? Kids are obsessed with sex. And clueless.



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:28 AM
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There are websites were you can report child pornography sites. If you go to a site and it has something sick and offensive, close it down straight away and do not go on it again. What the FBI do is, monitor IPs that access the sites a lot, if you have accidently accessed one and never went on it again the FBI will probably not chase you up.



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:33 AM
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Originally posted by RANT
What the heck are people thinking? Letting their kids have computers and webcams in their room? Kids are obsessed with sex. And clueless.


In my opinion society is the biggest contributor to child porn. Its indirect of course, but society and the media have sexualized children to the point where many view it as no big deal anymore. When I was 10, the girls I knew couldn't wear make-up, now 10 year olds wear thongs.


Back to the topic though, there are far too many places where explotation of children hides in plain sight. Sites like Hot or Not with scantily clad (or nude) teens and children are gateways to people seeking legit child porn out.



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:40 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
I believe the FBI maybe posting this phony sites to trap people.


Yes, you are more correct than you probably could imagine!!

As someone here already mentioned, there was a case a while back where a girl got in trouble for posting pics of herself while she was underage. Well, in that very same thread I posted links to different sites that I researched for the post that I was making. Dealing mostly with the fact that Porn as well as Child Porn and the laws involved with them vary not only country to country but even change from state to state here in the U.S. Anyway, I came across something where it was saying that 'Ironically' a very large percent of the Child Porn that is on the Internet is actually put there by the Feds and Law Enforcement in order to Catch those people who are into that stuff. It also talked about how they pretend to be kids on chat software and stuff in order to catch these guys and so forth.

I just found it interesting that was saying that a significant amount of the Child Porn which is out there is out there being used as bait. While I see how that could be used in that way, I would think that it wouldn't be all that necessary, let alone being used in large amounts like that. They use the same technique posing as Hookers or Dealers too, but it's like at a ratio of 1 to 100 million or something. If there is so much child porn out there, I wouldn't think it would be needed to provide more to catch the bad guys ya know. Personally it kinda left me with the feeling that Unknowingly or Unintentionally the Law Enforcement Team is actually adding to the problem as well as fighting it. The whole subject is foul enough as it is anyway, but I found that to be a very strange aspect of it personally that made it even worse.



posted on Jun, 9 2004 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by mOjOm
The whole subject is foul enough as it is anyway, but I found that to be a very strange aspect of it personally that made it even worse.


Excellent points mOjOm. I think the internet has really changed the way this is handled. There are very few laws on the books as far as what law enforcement can and cannot do to catch "cybercriminals." There are laws for regular crimes as to what is and is not entrapment, but if I'm not mistaken those probably don't apply to the internet. The thought of anyone, including law enforcement, setting up a child porn site is very distasteful. I only hope they are getting big results from that type of tactic because it is far worse than a cop posing as a drug dealer or prostitute.



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