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Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by Dogdish
Just sayin'... Look at the video, watch how the animation doesn't match the film.
Aren't we denying ignorance, here?
Denying ignorance has nothign to do with it. It's someone with an agenda to introduce verifiably false information at the expence of research and of the facts that's the problem.
The animation specifically shows the plane flew right over a busy highway at low altitude, so it is an irrefutable fact that hordes of eyewitnesses specifically saw that it was a passenger jet that hit the Pentagon. The photos also irrefutably show that in one moment there was an empty lawn, and in the next moment, there was piles of United Airlines wreckage and debris was scattered all over the place. Whatever explanation you come up with it will necessarily need to be able to explain these facts, so if it can't then it's by definition an incorrect explanation.
Originally posted by GovtFlu
No, there are no "irrefutable facts".. at least not according to the American way.
If this was a court case all evidence submitted by the govt must be shown relevant & credible.. for example all "airplane" parts the govt alleges belong to flight 77 would be subject to inspection by defense experts who would aggressively investigate, then agree it's credible, or challenge the govt.. usually during an evidence hearing. Stick around a court long enough and you'll discover govt claims are thrown out all the time, and / or that juries reject government experts claims and side with the defense.
Originally posted by thedman
Read James Bamford's "BODY OF SECRETS"
Hanjour had checked out in 737 simulator in Arizonia several months before 9/11 - he passed
One of the things checked off by the instructor was "TURNS" .......