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That assumption — that catastrophic risks were so unlikely they were unworthy of serious attention — appears to have driven a lot of the government decision-making on drilling as well. The Minerals Management Service, a division of the Interior Department, oversees drilling on the Outer Continental Shelf. Since the 1980s, the MMS has routinely granted a Energy companies have aggressively lobbied to avoid formally analyzing worst-case scenariosblanket exemption from doing a comprehensive environmental impact statement to individual drilling operations, according to Holly Doremus, a professor of environmental law at Berkeley. The Washington Post and the Associated Press reported last week that BP’s Deepwater Horizon lease received that exemption (called a “categorical exclusion”) last year. It was based on several analyses that downplayed the risks of a major oil spill. One, published in 2007, estimated the “most likely size” of an offshore spill at 4,600 barrels. NOAA’s current, conservative estimate of the Gulf spill put its total at more than 80,000 barrels, increasing at a rate of 5,000 per day.
Energy companies have aggressively lobbied to avoid formally analyzing worst-case scenarios since the Carter administration first required them in instances where there was uncertainty about the risk of disaster.
Why must I go to your website to read your ideas on this subject?
Are you advertising for your website?
I see links to "your forums" and then an offer to go and see information there. Bad form. I refuse to ever visit your website now.
Originally posted by ActivePatriot
I have the following hypothetical BP discussion on our forum here:
Golf balls and shredded tires to stop the leak?
So the “Pollution Containment Chamber ” solution isn’t going that well. Who could have seen that one coming? Oh yeah, we did…check out the thread title! So, the next “solution” is to inject golf balls and shredded tires into the BOP to clog it up.
Is this a viable solution? We don’t know. How many oil rigs have crates of golf balls and shredded tires as part of their contingency kits?
The following is a hypothetical conversation which lead to this new plan:
“Good morning gentlemen, in our determined effort to bring this catastrophe under control, I have brought in Wayne Bob, the foremost expert at getting things done”
“Thank ya sir. First, y’all are goin about this all wrong. That there container do hicky ain’t gonna work. It’s Square and y’all’s pipe is round. Hell, my 6 year old son knows that ya can’t put a square box in a round hole! Whatcha need to do is grow a set and stop the damn leak, any fool will tell ya that.”
“Um…Mr. Bob, we have been working on possible solutions to that, but we are dealing with a lot of pressure down there. Do you have any ideas?”
Gazes up to the ceiling for a few seconds thinking intently, “GOLF BALLS! Whatcha need to do is put a buncha golf balls in the pipe to stop it up. First, they’re round so they’ll fit. Second, they’re REAL hard!”
“Uh, Mr. Wayne. Sir, I don’t think that will work.”
“Son… I been doin stuff like this back when you was 12 beers and seven minutes of heavy petting away from being conceived. Ya ever been hit between the eyes with a golf ball? I’m telling you them things are hard….real hard.”
Starting to lose patience, “I agree that golf balls are pretty hard, but I’m trying to tell you that we are dealing with A LOT of pressure here...”
Wayne Bob interupts,
“TIRES!....TRUCK TIRES! Man, you every see what a Peterbilt can haul? Them tires they use got so much pressure in them they can explode like a grenade! Take yer head clean off! Yaa, Steel Belted Tires at that. Boy, ain’t nothing stronger then steel. Still gotta use those golf balls though....they’re round.”
“But I’m trying to tell you this is at 5,000 feet”
“Listen son, I’ve done this sorta thing in Montana at 5,000 feet.”
Shaking now, “Mr. Bob. Your talking about 5,000 feet above sea level, I’m talking about 5,000 below sea level. It’s totally different.”
“Listen, I don’t know what they taught you at yer fancy engineer school but 5,000 feet is 5,000 feet. You want me to draw it up for you so you’ll understand?”
Walks over to the white boards and writes, “5000 = 5000.”
“That’s absolutely ridiculous! Who the hell are you Wayne...Bob? Who the hell has a name like Wayne Bob anyway?”
Speaking coolly, “Listen you snot nosed little egghead, my legal name is Bob Wayne. When I was knee high to a squirrel everyone used to poke fun at me cause my name was too close to John Wayne. When I was old enough to start fillin out forms and stuff, they asked for last name first....Wayne, Bob. And it just kinda stuck with me. Make fun of my name one more time and I’ll go John Wayne on your ass!”
“OK, whatever. I’m sorry Wayne. I’m just saying, I don’t think you know the exact pressures involved here. We are 5,000 feet below the surface trying to stop a leak coming up from a pipe another 18,000 feet below that.
That means the pressure coming up the pipe is....... ”
BP Executive cuts off Engineer,
“Mr. Bob….Wayne, whatever your name is, you’re in charge. Get er done!
[edit on 10-5-2010 by ActivePatriot]
Originally posted by ActivePatriot
reply to post by Allred5923
Thank you very much for an excellent sourced article on the issue.
There is very much more to this issue then the spill. I am working on tying this into the bigger picture. I can't exactly call it a political agenda as that would imply a conflict between Democrats and Republicans on the issue, which is not really true.
Not trying put a teaser, just have to get my sources together.
In honor of Mr Mask, I will even post that here before I put it on our own site. Just this once though!