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Puerto Rico to be a made a state this week

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posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 06:14 PM
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Well it's in the bill HR2499. Who in the right mind in congress would vote against it? Seriously...

HR2499


On April 22, 2010, Resident Commissioner Pedro Pierluisi announced that H.R. 2499 would be voted on in the week of April 26th, 2010. [15].


It is my understanding that this bill would give Puerto Rico residents a vote to see if they want to be a state or some kind of ``sovereignty in association with the United States``... like the Republic of the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, and the Republic of Palau as examples.

Another ``ace in the hole`` to win the elections in november? That and amnesty will give democrats a serious boost...Two more democrat senators and a few congress people?

Hopefully Puerto Ricans will do the right thing and become sovereign while they still can.

[edit on 27-4-2010 by Vitchilo]




posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by Vitchilo
Well it's in the bill HR2499. Who in the right mind in congress would vote against it? Seriously...

HR2499


On April 22, 2010, Resident Commissioner Pedro Pierluisi announced that H.R. 2499 would be voted on in the week of April 26th, 2010. [15].


It is my understanding that this bill would give Puerto Rico residents a vote to see if they want to be a state or some kind of ``sovereignty in association with the United States``... like the Republic of the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, and the Republic of Palau as examples.

Another ``ace in the hole`` to win the elections in november? That and amnesty will give democrats a serious boost...Two more democrat senators and a few congress people?

Hopefully Puerto Ricans will do the right thing and become sovereign while they still can.

[edit on 27-4-2010 by Vitchilo]


There is no way they will vote for it. I was in puerto rico the last time this came up and they will never do it. They had parties over not joining as a state....crazy.

They have all the benefits of a state now, but none of the disadvantages.

Won't happen, would be nice, but it won't.

Peace

Peace

[edit on 27-4-2010 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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Oh, goody!

I already have the market 'wrapped up' (hint) for all the new flags they'll be needing! >sarc<

Rich! Rich, beyond my wildest dreams of avarice!

Oh, wait....I just read the Bill.

Darn it! No money for me....


Catchy headline, though. Love your hair, hope you win! Watch out for the
s.

[edit on 27 April 2010 by weedwhacker]



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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Actually their governor is a Republican and their leading political party is alligned with the Democrats but is described a solidly consevative party and very religious.

en.wikipedia.org...

Besides I believe that we should offer this to all of our territories. It's not right that they are run by Washington but do not hold the equal rights as us Americans. Either they become states or republics.



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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I support this measure only and if only we change the stars and stripes to this:



How cool would it be to sport a flag with the stars arranged to form a sand dollar. And when nationals of other countries say how arrogant jerks Americans are we can point to the new flag and hand out pamphlets with the Legend of the Sand Dollar printed on them.

[edit on 27-4-2010 by Ahabstar]



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 07:16 PM
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This would benefit Puerto Rico and Puerto Ricoans a lot.



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 07:16 PM
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Which metaphorically speaking means we're going to expand to the seas and over them like we used to for fully fledged states.
If we were to have some sort of state that small, I honestly think we'd best just make it a Caribbean state of some sort since we have more American citizens down there than just Puerto Rico.



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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This happens from time to time, Puerto Rico gets to decide if they want to be a state a couple times a generation. It's much the same as Quebec getting to vote every couple of decades about their independence.

It's going to be up to the people of Puerto Rico as to what system they want. On one hand, becoming a state would mean more federal money, and a say in the politics of the United States federal government. On the other, it puts them on the line for federal taxes, and a whole host of changes and programs that the federal government requires of states.

The standard of living would improve over time, but the people of the island would have less say over their own destiny.



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 08:00 PM
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Puerto Rico to be a made a state


But...that would totally ruin the song!



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 08:03 PM
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Now you can refer it to "Fifty one Nifty one United States."



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 08:12 PM
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I don't know if I like this... I live here in Puerto Rico and although it would improve living standards I don't see it happening because the people here are too loyal to their independence and really don't want to become a state... I wouldn't be surprised if we do become one though because things here are tough..



posted on Apr, 27 2010 @ 08:15 PM
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That's a very big issue to deal with. I think the people of Puerto Rico would soon come to terms with being a state when life becomes more simple.



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 01:48 AM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
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Now you can refer it to "Fifty one Nifty one United States."


"Fifty One, Tyrannically Run, You Knighted States"



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 09:10 PM
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Just passed the House... going to the senate.

House Approves Puerto Rico Statehood Measure

I'm sure the democrats are drooling. They want to keep their senate majority.



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 09:17 PM
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If they knew how much in liberty they are going to pay, they would never choose state hood.

Right now they enjoy all the benefits of protection wile not being rotted from the inside with federal mandates.



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
Now you can refer it to "Fifty one Nifty one United States."


Wouldn't that make it, like, the 58th state?




posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 09:54 PM
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If this was just a straight question: Do you want to be a state?
Then it would not be an issue.
But this is not the question at hand, it is more complex and a sneaky way to get the people of Puerto Rico to vote for statehood.
This is what it states:
SEC. 2. FEDERALLY SANCTIONED PROCESS FOR PUERTO RICO’S SELF-DETERMINATION.

(a) First Plebiscite- The Government of Puerto Rico is authorized to conduct a plebiscite in Puerto Rico. The 2 options set forth on the ballot shall be preceded by the following statement: ‘Instructions: Mark one of the following 2 options:

‘(1) Puerto Rico should continue to have its present form of political status. If you agree, mark here XX.

‘(2) Puerto Rico should have a different political status. If you agree, mark here XX.’.

(b) Procedure if Majority in First Plebiscite Favors Option 1- If a majority of the ballots in the plebiscite are cast in favor of Option 1, the Government of Puerto Rico is authorized to conduct additional plebiscites under subsection (a) at intervals of every 8 years from the date that the results of the prior plebiscite are certified under section 3(d).

(c) Procedure if Majority in First Plebiscite Favors Option 2- If a majority of the ballots in a plebiscite conducted pursuant to subsection (a) or (b) are cast in favor of Option 2, the Government of Puerto Rico is authorized to conduct a plebiscite on the following 3 options:

(1) Independence: Puerto Rico should become fully independent from the United States. If you agree, mark here XX.

(2) Sovereignty in Association with the United States: Puerto Rico and the United States should form a political association between sovereign nations that will not be subject to the Territorial Clause of the United States Constitution. If you agree, mark here XX.

(3) Statehood: Puerto Rico should be admitted as a State of the Union. If you agree, mark here XX.

The forth option that has always been there is removed, which was should we remain as is.
So if you look at the options it removes that 4th option to where the citizens of Puerto Rico will have to make a choice, be seperated from the United States of America or become a state. And it does it in a sneaky way.



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 09:58 PM
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You nailed it on the head bud!

This is a sham, and not designed to help puerto rico, its designed to curry votes for the democratic party......its all cloak and dagger, you have to pay attention, if you guys have learned anything from this administration yet , its to WATCH THE OTHER HAND!

Besides, anyone that doesnt agree with this, can be called a racist or a hate monger, furthering the divide.......

Getting the picture here?'

do some searching and find out whose really pushing this......youll find a huge proponent is a socialist organization in puerto rico.....

The puerto rican community doesnt want this.........just more agenda pushing.......keep your eyes open people

[edit on 29-4-2010 by ManBehindTheMask]



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 10:48 PM
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If they bceome a state, they have to funnel the tax revenue to Washington, which they DON'T want to do.

That's why they've already voted NO to it three times



posted on Apr, 29 2010 @ 11:23 PM
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they enjoy all the benefits of american citizenship with 0 of the federal taxes. why would they vote yes?



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