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Fla. doc's sign warns off Obama supporters

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posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by baphomet420
this doctor should no longer be allowed to practice...
just my honest opinion...

ask yourself a question... why is it that rich people really hate this bill???

ask yourself another question... why do you follow???


Because it is just another tool of redistributing wealth.

Doctors go to school for ridiculous long periods of time and work a lot with harsh schedules.

You are generalizing an entire group which is wrong. Doctors are rich, but they are not the problem. Insurance companies are.

Seems like you are categorizing rich people with something unlikable. Grow up?

If that is not the case you need to explain yourself better.

But of course I am just another follower...shame on me if I agree with someone, regardless if we hold the same ideology.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 02:06 PM
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If he swore his word on something, it was done. Equal pay for equal work for women...It was done.

Lots of male chauvinists hate that he did this. They hate blacks, women, children, peace time, and anyone who fights against gun rights, even if they are nuns.

They pretend it is his economic position they despise or big government. They hate that government is coming in and taking over what was once controlled and manipulated 100% by big business. This is what got us all in the position we are in now. Fuked.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 02:13 PM
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Nobody is redistributing wealth.

He is planning to tax the rich the same way the poor are taxed. What is so unfair about that?

If you steal from me and I take it back...is this what you consider redistribution?

Those taxes, stolen from the American people and returned to the fabulously rich by George W Bush, amount to roads we don't have, emergency services and police protection we lack, unsafe neighborhoods, delapidated schools, bridges that fall down.

What the heck do the mega rich (who made their money OFF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE) care about any of that?
They send kids to private schools, they live in protected condos with security, they have drivers and leased cars so who cares about the lousy roads that destroy our cars. Bridges down?...so what, they take planes everywhere. Poor airline service or long delays getting screened in airports...lol... those are for the peons who can't afford private jets.

The rich (and the brainwashed zombie wannabe's) have a problem with this new plan because they really like the way the wealth is distributed and keeps flowing in their direction all the time. Common people are shut out of becoming players or having any real shot at the American dream. The American dream is a phony carrot that is held out by those promoting "capitalism." Little do you know the deck is stacked against you and you will never get a. in this. You will however lose everything you worked for to an investment banker.

How do you like them apples?

Dealer takes all ties.
In this case the dealer is your hedge fund manager.
You are a regular American dabbling in the stock market? Look out because there are 101 ways to screw you out of your investment.

It has worked great for them up until now.

UNTIL NOW.

This is why the outcry.






[edit on 3-4-2010 by rusethorcain]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
He is planning to tax the rich the same way the poor are taxed. What is so unfair about that?

Your ignorance on taxes is astounding!

The top 50% of wage earners pay 96.54% of all income taxes. Good Lord, when is enough, enough? Do you want them to pay 100% of all taxes?


If Obama was going to tax the rich the same way as the poor, the government would have NO revenue.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 03:27 PM
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So what if he turns away patients for being Obama supporters? That's his right is it not? If people are upset with him they will boycott his office until he conceads or they will find another doctor. If you don't like it, go somewhere else!



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:03 PM
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If his practice falls under the category of Private Club...fine but it doesn't.

Even a restaurant cannot turn someone away because of who they voted for.

It is a "right to service" and if someone hangs out a shingle here in the US and gets a license to conduct whatever business they are in they are not allowed to discriminate.


This is why the spineless creep says "Oh I never refused to treat anyone but if they turn away it is not my problem"

That because the quack knows he is in violation of his license if he doesn't treat whoever walks in the door.

Other countries, the communists you are all afraid of becoming may license business who are free to pick and choose who does and does not get their service but not in America.

It is one of our founding principals.
Apparently this "doctor" is ignorant of that or prefers the way they do things in communist countries. I suggest he go live in one since he is already half way there.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:05 PM
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Sorry to burst your bubble my friend but I'm a Socialist. I don't fear the 'commies'. I thought he had his own private business, so my mistake.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:11 PM
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I don't have anything against socialist's
so instead of bursting my bubble,
(and who said anything about Champagne?)
you actually made me a little relieved.

Yes he does have his own private business,
here in America, a country of laws designed
to protect the populace against corrupt corporations
and doctors, who might discriminate.

If they can pay, they can play.
Welcome to America.







[edit on 3-4-2010 by rusethorcain]



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:16 PM
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As long as it is 100% his own business why is it not 'his business'. There should be no laws that say whether or not any doctor has to treat any person. If he wants to be so arrogant then people won't go to his office which will either make him change his ways or go out of business.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:23 PM
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What part of "If you voted for Obama, seek urologic care elsewhere. Changes to your healthcare begin right now, not in four years" is not clear? He is clearly refusing treatment with that sign. His later statement is only to save his license.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 05:29 PM
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Let's keep to the topic folks.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 06:06 PM
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I'm just telling you what the article said.

I don't care if he refuses service or not, I found the story interesting and thought I'd share with ATS and discuss it.

I wonder how many people actually notice and read the sign anyway



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by elevatedone
 


Wow. Didn't this guy swear a Hippocratic oath? So he is not really good for his word, or he is and he is just joking with his patients, pretending he is going to turn them away? Spineless.
What a pitiful excuse for a human being and a disgraceful quack of a doctor.

"At least the President honors his word".

I live around this charlatan. I think I am going to look him up, maybe give him some business...the kind of business that might help to yank his license to practice at all.




[edit on 3-4-2010 by rusethorcain]


"At least the President honors his word".

Oh really now (as I pick myself up off the floor)! Which President of what county are you talking about. If it's BO you're talking about, he's the biggest BS'er I've seen in politics in the last 50 years. Makes Nixon look like a minor leaguer. If you can't see through this rookie, you're in over your . posting an opinion of this type here on ATS.

And don't bother trying to yank his license. Many doctors will voluntarily quit their practices than deal with BO's "Healthcare" bill after adding 30 million people to Medicare and reducing Medicare funding by $500-600 billion dollars. You may have to get on your hands and knees and plead your case for a doctor to accept you for treatment, if there's one available in your area. There's a possible disaster a. and you are clueless!!!!


What a pitiful excuse for a human being and a disgraceful quack of a doctor.


Just because a "useless feeder" shows up at a physicians door, doesn't mean he must provide you a service. Most small businesses and even a 7-11 have a sign posted that says "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone".

I have more respect for the position taken by this physician than a President that will look you in the eye and lie out his ***.

"
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posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 06:12 PM
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reply to post by elevatedone
 


No I dont mean by you specifically..the 'reply to' was in reference to what was posted in OP, I mean for everyone who is saying the Doctor is not refusing treatment.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 06:12 PM
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reply to post by December_Rain
 


doh.




Still a great story though.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 06:15 PM
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Sounds as if the doctor had a belly-full of sour grapes when he attached that note to his window


He's probably feeling pretty good, round about now


After all, sticking a note on a window

--- is a hell of a lot easier and less painful than flying a plane into a building to make a point


Wonder what he'll do when the State revokes his licence ?



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by elevatedone
reply to post by December_Rain
 

I wonder how many people actually notice and read the sign anyway


Now I am replying to you


Actually if I was near his home somewhere I would have paid him a visit...first rang his doorbell, when the doctor would have come out tell him on his face I don't want to be treated by such a feeble minded person and I am taking my business somewhere else

Or

sued him for discrimination and would have tried to get his license barred.



posted on Apr, 3 2010 @ 10:15 PM
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I don't really understand all this discussion about the reform, could someone please explain what it means for the average citizen in layman's terms for me?
Being Swedish, we pretty much all pay ungodly sums of cash to the government, of which parts are used to make sure that everyone has close to free medical care. This coupled with a distinct lack of knowledge about american politics leaves me rather clueless.

Back on the main subject though; I don't really think this man is acting correctly on any ethical grounds. Sure he found a loophole by saying that he won't deny anyone care. But he's still writing on his sign that people should find another doctor, strongly implying that he wont treat them.

Imagine me holding an ice-cone in one hand, and a sign in the other. The top of the sign says "Free ice-cream" and right below it says "If you're Canadian, go away.".
Now imagine that a Canadian guy walks up giving me a hard time about the second message, of which I reply "I never said I wouldn't give you any ice-cream, I just told you to go away" and thusly handing him a cone.
Wouldn't this be slightly self-contradictory, not to mention completely lacking any sense of logic? That's my opinion, at least.


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posted on Apr, 4 2010 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by elevatedone
 


Wow. Didn't this guy swear a Hippocratic oath?


At least the President honors his word.








Didn't the prez swear to protect and uphold the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic?

That second line about made me pee!


This guy is standing up for what he believes and go a. and bash him for it because he won't loose any sleep over it.



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