Vatican releases list of top ten rock albums

This is too much. I believe we all understand the connection between the music industry and the nefarious Illuminati. We can even make the connection between the music industry and the call for a new world order. Now I've come across an article that shows the Vatican actually promoting rock albums. Where does that connection lead us?

The Vatican's once-stodgy daily newspaper, "L'Osservatore Romano" has published a list of the best rock albums of all time. They are as follows: The Beatles' "Revolver" Pink Floyd's "The Dark Side of the Moon" Oasis' "(What's the Story) Morning Glory?" Michael Jackson's "Thriller" U2's "Achtung Baby" Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly" Carlos Santana's "Supernatural" Paul Simon's "Graceland" David Crosby's "If I Could Only Remember My Name" The inclusion of “Revolver” on the list comes as a bit of a surprise, since John Lennon once ruffled some ecclesiastic feathers by remarking, “The Beatles are bigger than Jesus.” However, the Vatican music critic may have been swayed by the fact that George Harrison was raised Catholic, and Paul McCartney included a reference to a priest on the Revolver track, “Eleanor Rigby.” Of course, Father McKenzie may have been an Anglican priest, but McCartney nevertheless portrayed the cleric in a sympathetic light.

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Can anyone see subliminal messages in some or all of these albums that the Vatican is endorsing? What is the major theme and should the Vatican be promoting them?

Besides Harrison, several other rock stars on the Vatican’s list were baptised into the Roman faith as infants. Liam and Noel Gallagher (of Oasis) were brought up Catholic, as was Carlos Santana. U2’s Bono was deliberately raised both Catholic and Protestant by his well-meaning Irish parents, and he is too politically correct to align himself directly with either church. But he has been known to hang out with popes and carry rosaries. Michael Jackson’s inclusion of zombies in his “Thriller” video irked some members of his own church, the Jehovah Witnesses. But apparently, Rome takes a gentler view of the late genius’ cinematic work.

Rome apparently is down with rock and roll. I wonder what their favorite speed metal band is?

Originally posted by jackflap

I wonder what their favorite speed metal band is?

Wouldn't be Deicide by chance, would it ?

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L’Osservatore Romano is a joke and a scandal almost as big as the child abuse thing. I don't know how the Vatican can allow them to publish the garbage they do and still allow them to call themselves "The official newspaper of the Vatican".


Here's a good article of the scandalous nature of this publication from a traditional Catholic newspaper:

L’Osservatore Romano:
An International Scandal


Take the Vatican’s newspaper of record, L’Osservatore Romano (LOR), for example. It’s become so politically correct these days that, at least as a Catholic enterprise, it might as well be going around incognito. I don’t judge its editors rashly; I just read their stuff, most of which tends to bring to mind tie-dyed tee-shirts and ponytails.

Recent examples are myriad—from LOR editor Gian Maria Vian’s assertion that Barack Obama “is not a pro-abortion president”, to his attempted rehabilitation of Socialist pop guru John Lennon, to the fulsome praise of the Beatles’ White Album (described as “magical musical anthology” and a “unique and strange alchemy of sounds and words”), to a semi-favorable review of Catholic-basher James Cameron’s “Avatar”, to the 4-star review of the latest Harry Potter vehicle (based on the children’s series roundly criticized as “spiritually dangerous” by Pope Benedict XVI), to their outrageous eulogy for pop idol (and alleged child molester) Michael Jackson, who LOR’s Marcello Filotei described as a “child prodigy” with an “extraordinary soul voice”, and “no accusation, however serious or shameful, is enough to tarnish his myth among his millions of fans throughout the entire world”.

This is mere child’s play, of course, compared to LOR’s revelation last March (see “On the Side of the Brazilian Girl”) that direct abortion could be morally justified and its evil mitigated in some “extreme circumstances”. The worldwide pro-life movement is still staggering around, trying to pull that knife from its back.

Read more: The Remnant

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They seem to be dancing on the fine line that separates the divine and the carnal. Is this an admission of sorts on their part or is it a way to bring attention to their cause thereby garnering more revenue? To make themselves seem not so unapproachable by the masses. Someone would see this and say hey I like those albums too, I think I'll go to Mass today.

Originally posted by jackflap
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Someone would see this and say hey I like those albums too, I think I'll go to Mass today.

If only it was that easy to gain converts. I doubt very much that people will suddenly start going to Mass because the Vatican newspaper says they like the same music as them.

From what I've read from Catholic news sources, most everyone views this as scandalous. If anything, this may cause more concerned Catholic to turn against the Vatican.

What's the difference between Bono and God?

God doesn't walk around Dublin pretending he's Bono.

reply to post by jackflap


The subliminal message? Conform/obey/consume.

What a thoroughly pedestrian list, whilst I like some of the music mentioned it's really very safe...

reply to post by Retrovertigo


Deicide = Death Metal
Sadus on the other hand...

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I was just trying to see their logic in this. I know it was an exaggerated example but I cannot see any other reason for them to be advocating these albums. Maybe they hope that when someone is listening to these albums they'll subconsciously feel as though they have to tithe?

Originally posted by jackflap
reply to post by FortAnthem

 

I was just trying to see their logic in this. I know it was an exaggerated example but I cannot see any other reason for them to be advocating these albums. Maybe they hope that when someone is listening to these albums they'll subconsciously feel as though they have to tithe?

I honestly don't believe L’Osservatore Romano has any interest in promoting the faith.

They have gone down the road of pretty much every other news organ nowadays; they're just trying to make a buck and increase circulation. Their agenda is to put out articles which will be POPULAR among the masses and will sell newspapers.

They see themselves as a secular newspaper that just happens to report on the Vatican. At least that's the impression I get from their editorial stances recently.

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Wow: Pink Floyd DSOTM is on the list???:

"far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell,
draws the faithful to their knees,
to hear the softly spoken magic spell....."

then the most somber release of emotion without words by the female singer.

Not very "Vaticanesque" compared to Gregorian chants of old...

To the Vatican: Really?

"Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly"

Here, have a sample of this powerhouse, Classic Rock Anthem (in the likely event that you never knew the song existed):

www.last.fm...



They just threw this into the "Rock" category, and then singled it out for praise?

Yeah, somebody's got to be putting us on here.

And now ladies and gentlemen without further ado, Vatican endorsed tunage!

Far away across the field The tolling of the iron bell Calls the faithful to their knees To hear the softly spoken magic spells.

reply to post by jackflap


The Catholic Church itself, it's a giant incognita. It was founded by an atheist emperor plus pagan roman priests, after the crucifixion and torture of an authentic living avatar. The first Bible was written by a Freemason Illuminati king, all military crusades led by Catholic church were funded by Freemasonry, the mystic rituals carried in the Catholic masses, were cloned from ancient Babylonian rituals, the suits of the high levels of the clergy were cloned from Babylonian priests and currently they have a nazi pope. What people are expecting from Vatican??

By the way, you gotta be kidding referring to Carlos Santana as a Catholic. He's a voodoo practicing.


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Hey good OP and post about "by the way, which one's Pink?".

Full disclosure: One of my top bands is Pink Floyd. And DSOTM is one of the best. But, I don't see religion in their music, only dark views of politics and the Orwellian things that already are.

I (don't) edit: (try not to) mix my religious beliefs with politics, only my scientific beliefs with religion, as odd as that might sound to some. But I'm firm in separating the enjoyment of music from religion, or else I'd be listening to Gregorian chants all the time. And giving up on all the science I've learned over the years.

I am very surprised that the Vatican would allow this.

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We need just a little more inspiration to wake ourselves up a bit. What better piece of Vatican endorsed music than some Oasis to scrutinize?

All your dreams are made When you're chained to (your) mirror with (your) razor blade Today's the day that all the world will see Another sunny afternoon (I'm) walking to the sound of your favorite tune Tomorrow never knows what it doesn't know too soon

Well, having an album called Dark Side of the Moon on the Vatican's top albums of all time is certainly interesting? Hidden message maybe?

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Thanks for your take on this my friend. I don't understand the question you are asking about which one is pink?

by the way, which one's Pink?

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It's from the "Wish you were here" album, I sometimes (wishfully thinking) think that many had heard it, mistake on my behalf. The song is "Have a Cigar", my impression is that it is about the dark side of the music industry:

Come in here, dear boy, have a cigar.
You're gonna go far, fly high,
You're never gonna die, you're gonna make it if you try;they're gonna love you.
Well I've always had a deep respect, and I mean that most sincerely.
The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think.
Oh by the way, which one's Pink?

The sarcasm being no one in the band is named "Pink".
Wikipedia link

Wasn't trying to derail w/ bringing up "Pink", just trying to get a line on why the biggest organized religion in the world is lauding them. Maybe they know something above what we do?

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reply to post by jackflap

Thank you for share this. No doubt, it's very hard not to love Gilmour. Don't get me started

No, really. Many sides of human nature on this album. The dark sides politics, war, greed, lunatic, dead ect. Still it feels strange the Vatican's release of such list. Think it's very cool. Some may not agree, and think it's not their job to promote rock. But it's a free choice if people want to listen. So....

reply to post by TheRandomUser

Well, having an album called Dark Side of the Moon on the Vatican's top albums of all time is certainly interesting? Hidden message maybe?

Well have you ever heard of the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope? I'm sure they keep an eye on the skies for a reason.

Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope

Given its excellent optical qualities, the telescope has been used primarily for imaging and photometric work, in which it regularly outperforms much larger telescopes located elsewhere. Among the notable results from this telescope have been the discovery of MACHOs in the Andromeda Galaxy; the validation of the Stromvil photometric filter system; evidence for how the shape and dimensions of galaxies have changed over the age of the universe; discovery of the first binary 'Vesta chip' asteroid; and the characterization and classification by visible colors of some 100 Trans-Neptunian objects, most of them fainter than magnitude 21. The government of the Vatican City State supports the Vatican Observatory staff and regular research costs, but the cost to build and maintain the VATT itself has come from private donors. The major donors supporting the construction of the telescope were Fred and Alice P. Lennon and Thomas J. Bannan. Benefactors to the Vatican Observatory Foundation continue to support the operating costs of the Alice P. Lennon telescope and its attached Thomas J. Bannan astrophysics facility.

en.wikipedia.org...

The dark side of the moon indeed!

reply to post by flymetothemoon

No, really. Many sides of human nature on this album. The dark sides politics, war, greed, lunatic, dead ect. Still it feels strange the Vatican's release of such list. Think it's very cool. Some may not agree, and think it's not their job to promote rock. But it's a free choice if people want to listen. So....

I totally agree with you flymetothemoon. It is strange seeing the Vatican aligning themselves with these artists through vague references to the artists supposed faiths. I don't believe it is their job to promote rock either which leaves us with the question of why? What is their job anyway?