North Korea is very well aware that we're bigger, smarter, and have all the weapons they may contain plus more. For where they lack, we gain. Their isolationalists in the highest manner and it will come back to bite them in their sorry arses.

WWIII?
Yeah right.
If that was going to start - it would've began with the war in Afganistan and Iraq So I don't wanna hear it.

QUOTED POST:

"Maybe if we show how infantile he and his government is compared to how other countries conduct international affairs, he may take it to mind and change.

It just makes me wonder why we don't take the same approach with Iran then. Or Iraq or...Ahh never mind. The point is, this guy detonated two nuclear weapons and says they have even more powerful weapons and all we do is laugh about him. Our elected officials saw no need in allotting the CIA huge sums of money to destabilize the regime in North Korea as they have in Iran."

ME: ---
Two nukes isn't really going to be an issue to a country
like the USA who has multiple ballistic missile subs ready
to launch up to 3.2 gigatons of hellfire onto any belligerent nation.

Iran is a very much different sort or beast in that numero uno
is that they have OIL and LOTS OF IT almost as much as Iraq
which we need and a friendly and INTACT IRAN is a primary
concern.

The other big thing is that WE (the USA) KNOWS that while the
leader is popular amonst his Revolutionary Guard troops and
military commanders, he is NOT POPULAR with the mostly young
general population that grew up in a mostly modern environment
compared to the archaic and primitive living conditions of the
general population that was prevalent previous to the
1979 Iranian Revolution.

These "Kids" won't stand for a war if it means severe hardship
for themselves and their families.

This is one case where we have the advantage of allowing simple
demographics to bring the more moderate elements into power
IF we can keep the mullahs and Revolutionary Guard troops in
check allowing the march of time to do the work for us.

And while my next opinion is quite controversial, I believe it to be
correct simply because of the rather advanced education system
and technological advancement of Iran that makes it a GOOD
candidate to mostly leave alone.

CONTROVERSIAL OPINION:
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It may not be such a bad idea to LET IRAN have it's nukes!

Because of the power and size of it's YOUTHFUL population
(almost 60% is under 30 years old), I suspect that a nuclear
armed Iran would enter into a Cold War-like Detente with
nearby nuclear powers such as Isreal and Russia/China/India
and we would LIKELY have a Middle East version of today's
Pax Americana where a powerful and strong Iran would be able
to keep the Hamas, PLA, Yemeni, Al Quaeida's of the region
in check to give us a Pax Irania where there would be relative
peace and stability for at least 50 to 100 years until Egypt,
Saudi Arabia, Iraq and other middle east countries can finally
be brought into the western fold caused by the rapid introduction
of inexpensive consumer goods and media which will, over time,
"Convert" the youth into more secular and less belligerent
populations due to advancing economic development.

This effect is seen today in China where you have a generally
homogenious society (Han Chinese) being converted to western
ideologies via simple economic advancement which THEN becomes
the staging point to eventual TRUE political reform. While this is
happening, it is HIGHLY LIKELY that China will stay peaceful
as it rises economically. I expect that such a scenario CAN take
place in the Middle East via having at least ONE stable AND Powerful
leader country (Iran) to keep the others in check.

The kids and simple economics will do the rest.

It would in my opinion be premature to enter into a war with Iran
when we could bide our time by using our media and technology
to INFLUENCE THE YOUNG who will eventually enter the halls
of power displacing the old guard of belligerent theologists.

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North Korea is an entirely different matter BECAUSE of TWO THINGS:

a) Lack of outside Media contact with the general population.
Ergo they cannot be influenced by our media.

b) a Personality Cult enforced by a brutal AND loyal army.
Iran, while ruled by mullahs and an egotistic leader, is still
beholden to an informed, generally well educated, youthful, and
energetic populace. North Korea's population is STARVED,
generally apathetic and DISTRUSTFUL of foreigners.

The ONLY WAY I SEE the general population overthrowing
Kim Jong and his ilk is if they become even MORE STARVED
than they already are....ONLY THEN will revolution take place.

So I can only suggest a covert program that REMOVES
the leadership ALL IN ONE SHOT which could be done using
multiple specially trained infiltration teams to do FAST
and targetted assassinations of ALL NK leadership.
Covert sabaotage to deprive the soldiers of the North Korean
side of the DMZ border their battalion-level artillery and
missiles will be required and we'll also need to deal with
the NK's EXTENSIVE underground tunnelling, and bunker
system and their underground sub-bases and underground
repair/maintenance centres. It is ESSENTIAL that we map all
these assets FIRST, before we even THINK ABOUT using
covert or overt military activity to take them out.

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QUOTED POST:

"To me, this is a huge mistake. We make light of a real threat and go after supposed threats for reasons I can only guess at. The madness of it all has me wondering and worried. "

ME: ----
I wouldn't be too worried about Iran OR Iraq...The kids of those
countries will eventually take care of themselves to bring about
change and relative peace. North Korea will need someone with
the Leadership Juevos to handle that sort of quagmire. I suggest
hiring the Isrealis and some South Chinese sympathetic to the
cause to do covert action against its leadership....OR we STARVE
the NK people some more via MASSIVE sanctions and let THEM take
Kim Jong and his ilk out of the picture via a VERY BLOODY and
DANGEROUS internal revolution which is NOT the scenario
I envision would bring about a decent outcome.

Any thoughts on my opinions?
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[edit on 2010/3/9 by StargateSG7]

[edit on 2010/3/9 by StargateSG7]

They really hate America don't they. It's as if he just spends his whole day thinking about takin' em down. North Korea is a strange place, they really have big brother over there, when you look at their way of living, you see that the controls placed on us are not a scratch on theirs. At least we have the ability to discuss this, A North Korean would be shot for not having a text book opinion on the matter. That said there is still a lot of corruption a foot. This all sounds like a very nice way to start another war. Wether North Korea are just shouting about a bit or whether they mean it, they can't really come out of it successful. I should think America welcomes the threat.

Nothing new happening here. North Korea will not act first, they might not go along with global politics, but they are not insane. They know damn well that if they use a nuke that their entire country will be a crater in the ground within hours.

that little north korean dictator is quite a pain, who is this guy trying to impress .The civillians there have to be nearly starving by now.I think its time to show this guy HAARP also works from above maybe cook his palace, while he is out of course.

Originally posted by Grayelf2009

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea's army said Monday it is ready to "blow up" South Korea and the U.S., hours after the allies kicked off annual military drills that Pyongyang has slammed as a rehearsal for attack.

- Lee

i cant wait for wwIII

i'm a liberal 'hippy' but i just want things to get over with.

it needs to happen for any peace to come our way in the future