Internet Urgently Needs More Regulations, Speaker Says

Internet Urgently Needs More Regulations, Speaker Says

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The Internet poses a greater threat than ever due to lack of content regulation and an increasing number of hackers, speakers said at Harvard University on Monday.

...In the early days of the Internet, the web was a safe haven for information and research resources, but as the years passed, security issues have come to surface, Stoll said.

...Discussions about the potential future of information war are undoubtedly “very scary,” Devanesan said.

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There is a real campaign to control the Internet. Not for our personal safety or national security, but for corporate profit.

We need to pay attention. Or we're going to lose what we've got here. Which is a whole lot.

This particular speech was from a Harvard professor and an internet security guy - and granted, the group was small.

But this is the edge of the wedge, just the tip of the iceberg.

Anyone here happy to sit back and let these guys control the Net, and our lives, even more than they already do?




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S&F for you, without free internet we might as well be back to having to send messengers by horseback and wait months for a reply. The internet is the ONLY place where free speech still truly exists and if that is taken away things can only get worse from there.

Messing with peoples internet is like messing with a mans car, or a womans hair, you just dont do it.
I feel sorry for whomever tries to push new regulations on the internet, they will automatically have a bulls-eye tattoo on their forheads.

reply to post by Raverous


Well, I have the feeling that you would need a licence to even walk on the street if we allow the bastards to fully take control over our personal life. I am using the Internet for OVER 13 years and I never got any issues as the one claimed by the professor. They want to scan our asses , to fingerprint us , to put GPS devices inside our cars, and now the last frontier - to SHUT UP OUR MOUTHS ! Its time for us - the "peasants" to wake up, no matter where you live , be alert and be ready to defend your last drop of freedom : THE INTERNET !

Aye, fight and you may die. Run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR INTERNET!

I honestly don't have any clue how the internet works, so if what I'm about to suggest isn't possible, excuse my ignorance and please educate me a bit And if this is not possible, other than because they want to control the internet, it darn well should be - this is 2010!
If they are so concerned about the internet causing so many security issues for the government, etc., why don't they just set up their very own "special" internet, strictly of no use to anyone but those who need it and let us have "our" internet.
Is it even possible to have more than one internet/www?

Speed aside, the internet was much more fun back in the early days. They've taken away so much already.

Originally posted by xstealth
Aye, fight and you may die. Run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR INTERNET!

I just had to quote you. ...and apparently I need to do it again...


tell our enemies that they may take our lives,
but they'll never take... OUR INTERNET!


FYI Common Good, everyone - the regulations already are sneaking in - have been for a while - they're usually camouflaged and misrepresented as "protecting our personal privacy." (Now that's a crock. Like we have any. Or like we could ever get it back.) And check out what's happening in Europe

Originally posted by soficrow

Internet Urgently Needs More Regulations, Speaker Says

And we need less speakers.

Well, those speakers anyway.

The ivy-league schools such as Harvard and Yale are part of the conspiracy. Why do you think so many "influential" people are groomed there? Why do you think they focus so much on globalization at those schools? So of course someone at Harvard is going to say we need to regulate and censor the Internet... could see that one coming a mile away...

Well if they do that, then you can see the revival of the private printing press. People have always had a way to write out grivences and concerns, and put it out there, though by taking more of a direct control of the internet will have an effect that the speakers at Harvard will not like or want. I suppose it will be time to break out the old instructions on how to make phamplets and just start doing things the old fashion way, may be local, but it grows in ways they would not like.

There is already a second internet. Because the first has gotten to commercial and full of bs.

Just like IRC in the early days, there will always be fringes where people can hang out and do what they want.

The net isn't one thing that can be controlled. What I think needs to happen is you have the part that is regulated and controlled for the average use. Then you have the parts that are left alone. Like internet three and four.

I actually wouldn't mind part of the net with a safe designation. Nothing like trying to do research for your kid and porn pops up.The amount of viruses are unreal. And people's computers are getting bogged down.

I will get upset the day the states start putting sales tax on.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
There is already a second internet. Because the first has gotten to commercial and full of bs.

The 'commercial' part is what supports alternate websites, and the bs is what makes it special.

Just like IRC in the early days, there will always be fringes where people can hang out and do what they want.

You mean, like, marginalized?

What I think needs to happen is you have the part that is regulated and controlled for the average use. Then you have the parts that are left alone. Like internet three and four.

How bout you leave THIS net alone - and set up, regulate and control internet 3 & 4 for "average" use.

I actually wouldn't mind part of the net with a safe designation. Nothing like trying to do research for your kid and porn pops up.

Hey! I have an idea! Why don't you surf that second internet you told us about? Or maybe spring a few cents for a few family-type filters.

And, there are GREAT free programs online like Peer Guardian and CCleaner.

Really, you do NOT need to live like that!

The amount of viruses are unreal. And people's computers are getting bogged down.

I will get upset the day the states start putting sales tax on.

Have you ever read a book called "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"? ....It's really good, and it's all about what happens when people try to use machines without bothering to learn even a few basics of how they work. Applies.

A few simple rules:
1. Don't go to weird sites.
2. Don't open weird emails from strangers.
3. For sure never open email attachments.
4. Fork out for antivirus software - or use the stuff that's online, free.
5. Set the controls on your filters and turn on the firewall.
6. Take a computer class.


BUT DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT REGULATING THE INTERNET.


Respectfully,
sofi



[edit on 9-2-2010 by soficrow]

reply to post by Common Good


that "someone" will just be the government...lets face it...not a lot you can do to stop it if thats wot they want to do is there.

Youtube took up lots of filters and playlist.com no longer works for me at all.

I don't like all this increasing regulation and filtering.

But what can we do?

Someone browses something wrong and bam ,they close the connection.

That's how its becoming in some European countries.

[edit on 10/2/2010 by Mystic Technician]

OR

Everyone that uses the internet could learn how to use it properly and learn what they should and shouldn't do so that this "horrendously dangerous environment" isn't so dangerous. They should learn how viruses and different scripts work. Some simple Google searches will yield much usable information.

They need to deregulate the internet completely. Even amidst the chaos you can learn to really use the net for just about anything. It is possibly the most resourceful tool I have at my disposal and if it's regulated into oblivion there's clearly going to be some issues.

Not to mention the knowledgeable hackers that will rise up and become more prevalent.

Take my resources and you take away the last civil option I have. When I have no civil options to rely on I resort to violence and force which is the same card played on me.

S&F by the way!

[edit on 10-2-2010 by Crossfate]

"I honestly don't have any clue how the internet works"

the internet is basically made up of millions of computer networks world-wide.

as for the government taking control of the internet, it will not happen. the internet is too large, only thing they can TRY doing is to censor the internet per country. but even if it somehow happens people will find a way around it. they cannot take away our freedom of speech. i live in australia. the schools and educational institutions have already put up a very strong internet filter, hopefully we wont be seeing the same filters being applied to everyday internet use. but we always have hope, the government here put up an internet filter/firewall and within an hour a hacker had found a way through it. we still have hope.

“We’re watching the Internet being used to exploit other nations’ infrastructures and especially to track down people who are considered bad guys to various agencies, he said."

Oh, oh, bad guys? Since the New Millennium, why has there been an overwhelming feeling of living in a reality which is the equivalent of a cheesy television cop show? Something like Starsky and Hutch comes to mind.

"In a world that is increasingly reliant on the Internet, online threats present an even greater problem, Zittrain said."

An even greater problem to what? Can you see how the fear mongering is introduced and injected into a dumbed down society?

“More and more, if you lost connectivity for a week, your life would be in greater disarray than even a few years ago,” Zittrain said. “We have a grave problem. I don’t think it’s business as usual.”

He calls losing connectivity for a week a "grave problem"? Just WOW! Obviously, buddy needs to get out more often and throw a ball or something, or maybe even try to get laid.

Human beings are pretty good at adopting to an unlimited number of situations. If the internet goes down, I fail to see why humans cannot simply revert back to living how they were living for 99.9999999999999999999999999% of their existence.

Stoll said hacking by governments and individuals poses the most significant threat to web users today.
“The Internet may become an excuse for doing mean things and spreading paranoia,” he said.

Mean things...paranoia...oooohhhhh...aaaahhhhh...there are those fear mongering words again. Cue the sinister music.

"Stoll said since the birth of the Internet, U.S. government agencies such as the FBI, the CIA and the NSA began paying more attention to political dissidents and hacker networks from around the globe, who attempted to steal or hijack important military documents."

I don't get this statement. What exactly does the internet have to do with the Government's secure and encrypted intranet? I highly doubt the most classified Government information is stored on servers which can be accessed from the internet. My guess would be these documents may still be on hard copy and only accessible from a limited amount of physical locations.

It makes absolutely no sense for the Government to allow anyone to be able to access such sensitive information through the internet from any location on any computer. This is the kind of stuff you see in B-rated movies. This is an obvious hose job aimed at the grazing cattle.

"Stoll also emphasized the difficulty of differentiating between individuals and government hackers, citing the need to separate the “freedom-fighters from the terrorists.”

He is advocating people being classified and separated. Who exactly is going to do this classification? And there is that word again: terrorists. At least he waited until the middle of the story to use it.

"Zittrain said that precautions to protect the web and improve Internet safety should be taken now before it’s too late – otherwise a far-reaching change is needed. Discussions about the potential future of information war are undoubtedly “very scary,” Devanesan said."

You know what the really scary thing is? That people actually believe and take these guys mumble jumble seriously because they are from an Ivy League School?

"Naurer said he was not sure what direction the nation was heading in the world’s struggle against information warfare, but the biggest obstacle impeding progress toward increasing safety and security is the “lack of a coordinated approach in the government.”

You knew this conclusion was coming from these dubious characters: one world regulation of the internet.


"Peter Cassidy, Secretary General of the Anti-Phishing Working Group, summarized the matter simply.
“It’s a big problem,” he said. Cassidy also noted the disparate nature of cyber crimes, which occur both on small day-to-day levels and on more complex levels of a national scale.
“If we get a handle on [smaller] crimes, it’ll help us get a handle on national security issues,” Cassidy said."

False. Most of the people who are responsible for the smaller crimes do not have the resources, nor the ability to commit the larger crimes. He is advocating this to back up their biased conclusion.

Reading between the lines, they are basically advocating the regulation of the internet by one authority. This is just one more example of why the educational system is at the heart of today's societal problems.

[edit on 10-2-2010 by SphinxMontreal]

[edit on 10-2-2010 by SphinxMontreal]

Anyone in their right mind, who believe that the Internet was ever a safe place to put information is gravely mistaken...

Picture this... The US government decides to allow the public use it's entire network for public use... why?

Perhaps now that we depend on the transfer of information so much that it allows them to watch what happens on the network. They tap it for information all the time. They want to know who is who, and tell you that your privacy is ensured.

People yell freedom... yet they unknowingly rely on sites like this for venting frustrations, or devising plans of revenge. Let me tell you, if anyone is thinking about starting a revolution and thinking of calling to arms on a public forum on the internet, they will be ready for you.

The fact that the internet exists is not for us, but for TPTB. It is their tap into more and more of our privacy and destruction of freedom.

It didn't start as a safe place, and wont end as a safe place for transferring information.

reply to post by TommyG


You're right. There is no such thing as net privacy. We all might as well be face to face with each other.

From the day you first went online, you've been profiled.

These guys have no regard for data protection. Just look at how Facebook automatically imports your hotmail email contacts as friend suggestions. I certainly don't remember giving Microsoft permission to relay my data onto Facebook, do you?

The open source community is too strong to allow us to lose the internet. Though it's a sad fact, more people would rise and revolt to protect the internet than they would to oppose corporate bailouts and eugenics.