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Originally posted by carslake
reply to post by Office 4256
Erhm.. I think you need to do a course called Sarcasm 101(the lowest form of wit) try the local Comedy Shack.
reply to post by die_another_day
Ok lets understand the difference in the generic and the contemporary meaning of words. If I went around saying I was corporation they'd Section 5 me
Then again.... this works if I'm a corporation that means I could be liable for tax relief, and live in any country I want and still vote.
confusion rains all over me.
[edit on 24/1/10 by carslake]
Originally posted by MMPI2
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Exactly. McCain/Feingold told millions of American Citizens that they would not be allowed to spend money to have their voices heard. It was a statist law that was appropriately struck down. A corporation is a collection of people engaged in a cooperative endeavor. Nothing more.
You guys that are calling for the SCOTUS to be executed and whining about this need to go read a freshman's civics book.
Originally posted by die_another_day
I learned that a "corporation" is a "person" back in like fifth grade and I still remember the teacher saying that.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by neo5842
5 times in that video they declare that America is a democracy. 5 times!! This isn't ancient Athens, is it? This makes me sick.
The supreme court screwed up. This is not good for AMerica or the people but it won't hurt our "democracy" because we're a Republic!!!
Do you seriously think the corporations can actually get MORE power than they have already? The people have no voice as it is, I don;t see where this changes anything. It's more like a rubber stamp ok'ing everything we've already done.
Foreign powers can't run our government because of this ruling, you still have to be an American citizen to hold office.
In practical terms I don't think this will actually change much at all.
Originally posted by JBA2848
Every body keeps saying a corporation is a person. A corporation is a "Separate Legal Entity" not a person or citizen. An entity is something that has a distinct, separate existence, though it need not be a material existence. In particular, abstractions and legal fictions are usually regarded as entities. In general, there is also no presumption that an entity is animate. So how does that equal a person? Maybe a ghost but not a person and ghost have no rights to vote or donate. If some one votes or donates with a deceased persons name it is callled fraud.
Originally posted by JBA2848
Well I guess the freedom of speach and the freedom of expression need to be more defined in law as the freedom of speach would consist of one individual person speaking and freedom of expression would consist of multimedia formats used by corporations. If the multimedia format is not protected under the word "press" that is.
Originally posted by wiredamerican
and is it really treason committed by these judges, and can they really get put away for what i see as being a crime?
This is not treason. They are heroes.
Because they just stripped election funding from government control.
They gave more power to Corporations and Unions.
Corporations and Unions are made out of people.
This is more power to the people. And that is a good thing.
I find it confusing that people would rather have government control on election funding. I say let the people, fund it. And it is the people who make up the corporations and unions.
This is one step ahead toward a more perfect Union.