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reply posted on 26-5-2004 @ 05:54 PM by PurdueNuc
Okay, this thread is in need of some serious debunking. I am a nuclear engineer, I have worked at a nuclear power plant, and I can assure you that they are safe.

First off, it'd take a lot of work to turn the fuel used in a nuc plant into a bomb. You need enough fissile mass concentrated into a small enough space, which is impossible with the fuel (fissile isotopes only account for about 5% of the fuel, while in a bomb it's 95%-~98%). Forget the idea of kinetic disassembly (I love that term) ever happening at a nuc power plant.

There are essentially three protective barriers between the fuel and the outside: a thin cladding around each pin, a carbon steel reactor vessel that's about 30 cm thick, and the reinforced concrete containment/shield building, which is several feet thick. The shield buildings were designed with one design basis being the crash of a 707 into the building. Shorty after 9/11, the US NRC did a reevaluation that confirmed that a shield building could withstand the impact of a 747.

That said, the worst that could happen if an airplane managed to crash through the shield building would be something akin to a dirty bomb, not a nuclear explosion. The press really likes to hype dirty bombs up, but it's doubtful radioactive material would be spread very far. Since nearly every nuc plant is out in the middle of nowhere, no major cities are threatened.

Oh, and forget about the idea of terrorists taking over a nuc plant like you seen in the movies. First off, they couldn't do anything remotely dangerous to the general public, and there's no way they'd ever get in. There are lots of highly trained security officers patrolling the site with AR-15s and multiple barriers to entry (the entire site is surrounded by a 12-foot razor wire fence and multi-ton concrete blocks or stones). The local law enforcement and national guard are always on call, and those terrorists would be dead quick'r than you can say "Jiha..."

Still, if you live close to a nuc plant and are scared, then move. If you don't live anywhere near one, then don't worry. Plain and simple.


reply posted on 26-5-2004 @ 07:20 PM by signa
Originally posted by browha
We are not discussing a jet fueled by nuclear engines.... No such thing exists yet, to my knowledge.
Chernoble was a nuclear fission plant as well.. Unless you know more specific technically details I dont?
We're discussing crashing a jet into a nuclear power plant to cause a chain reaction


You can bet if it is in the "planning stages" for our consumption...it is already being flown !



Atomic Wings
A new mini-reactor revives the dream of a nuclear-powered aircraft.
BY JIM WILSON
Illustration by Paul Dimare

The new hafnium-fueled reactor emits so little radiation it could be easily integrated into civilian airport operations.

After more than six decades of research, the first atom-powered airplane is cleared for takeoff. Although details of the project remain classified, a description of this remarkable aircraft has begun to emerge from technical conferences and declassified engineering studies. The plane will be both familiar and unique. Familiar in that it will resemble a Northrop Grumman Global Hawk, the bulbous-nosed unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) that the U.S. Air Force has used to track enemy movements in Afghanistan and Iraq. Unique because its nuclear reactor is unlike any other. Rather than split heavy elements or fuse light atoms--as in fission and fusion reactors--it will use what is known as a triggered isomer reaction. If this new powerplant, called a quantum nucleonic reactor, performs as scientists expect, its effect on the aircraft industry may prove as revolutionary as the introduction of the jet engine.


Ungainly Elegance
To the trained eye, the ungainly Global Hawk is a thing of beauty. A triumph of function over form, its whale-snout nose presents a tiny radar cross section. The thickly shrouded rear-mounted engine, located high in the tail, presents a minimal heat signature. Even the paint, which appears faded, serves a purpose: It helps dissipate heat from the plane's electronic bay. Together, these design features make the Global Hawk virtually invisible as it loiters at 45,000 ft., directing its powerful radar and high-resolution cameras on trouble spots.

One improvement would make the Global Hawk the perfect surveillance platform: eliminating the need to top off its fuel tanks. For UAVs operating deep within hostile airspace, refueling requires dashing hundreds, sometimes thousands, of miles to a friendly landing field. It is chiefly for that reason that the Global Hawk has been selected as a testbed for one of the boldest experiments in aviation history. Project managers for Northrop Grumman and the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory tell POPULAR MECHANICS they have begun discussions that could lead to the conversion of a Global Hawk to a nuclear-powered aircraft.

If the plan takes shape, a Global Hawk will be pulled off the production line and undergo extensive airframe and powerplant modifications. Chief among these will be the addition of some 2700 pounds of radiation shielding. Installed between the tail section and the main electronics bay, the shielding will create a "hot cell." In this area, which will be designed to minimize leakage of radiation, engineers will install the world's first airborne quantum nucleonic reactor.

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