Ron Paul: "We need to take out the CIA!"

I think I just became a Ron Paul fan.

I still don't like his ideas on economics, or his Libertarian proposals that 300 million people can just let the free market solve every problem -- I mean, look at the CIA; that's been BOUGHT by free market influence.

Anyway, I love it when Ron Paul gets going on the OBVIOUS. Bless him.
It isn't like anyone here can't figure this out -- it's just that, of the few thousand people sent to Washington under the excuse that they REPRESENT THE PEOPLE -- we have only one or two CRAZY enough to tell the truth.

I voted for Ross Perot in the 90's not because I thought he could run anything -- I voted for him because the OBVIOUS TRUTH he stated; "You reporters keep asking me if I've got a plan for the economy -- the truth is, we've got all sorts of bright people in Washington with all sorts of plans, but not one of them will ever be implemented because the Lobbyists decide what gets done."

When Sibel Edmonds, tried to blow the whistle on the Bush administration, selling WMD technology to countries on the "axis of evil" list (among, many, many crimes), she mentioned that Dennis Hastert was working for Turkey against US interests. But nobody at the FBI was interested -- in fact they wanted her to shut up. When that didn't work, she was pretty much forced into protective custody because her former employers were working to smear her or worse (remember the DC Madam hanged herself a week before her client list could be made public).

Well now Denny Hastert is a 7 figure consultant for guess who? Yeah, that' Sibel is makin' stuff up. But wow, Turkey really likes all those smart things Hastert has on his mind -- don't they?

The CIA and our politicians, protect American interests only because they overlap all the corporate/security interests that have bought and paid for them. Why would China or Dubai invade America when they sell us Lead-painted toys and we send them nuclear experts to build their their own toys? But the reverse is also true, few Chinese leaders are anything but controllable puppets with photos of them and whatever is embarrassing, and would not put their country's interests above getting their own retreat in the South of France.

So the world is safe not from anyone defending our countries, but because there is nobody in any of these countries, doing anything but making weapons so that contractors can get paid, and resources made cheap. As air gets more polluted, they will help companies sell us Oxygen and own our water that falls on our heads, and the powerful nations will appear to be still struggling with proxy wars and terrorists, but it will be just the same show as we have now.

The CIA doesn't knock over Latin American Democracies for a US firm like AT&T anymore to get cheap coppery. Companies like AT&T are global and don't show profits in the USA anymore.

God forbid, that there were actual terrorists fighting for a religious cause; every one of these causes gets co-opted. And the Evangelicals in America protest Indians opening a Casino and the Taliban buries a woman alive in the ground because she went to school because ignorance keeps the Opium trade healthy. They are just as co-opted as our CIA. And the School of the Americas trains most of the military leaders in Latin America to defend cheap labor for multinationals.

If you can't compromise someone -- they don't get promoted or they fall in a small plane accident.

Spineless, flawed people are a lot easier to control.

You have to be impressed however, that in a strange way this works, and it's comforting to know that China won't conquer us because they will be just as corrupted as we are and some other nation will be used for outsourcing as soon as their people start wanting something in return for all that "sacrifice" to export cheap things to the US.

reply to post by malcr


So can you tell me exactly when in history did the people stop caring about being crapper on? It was obviously way before my time in this he'll hole.

MessOnTheFED!

I don't know about the CIA running everything. Maybe the CIA doing the dirty work for those that do run everything. The CIA is a major problem though. They have too much power and little to no oversight. I'm not opposed to the CIA but a complete revision is needed from top to bottom.

Go Go Ron Brass Ba!!s Paul

I have a couple questions though. Isn't the NSA 5 times bigger than the CIA? If so where do they fit into this debate? I'm sure their hands are in the dirty cookie jar too somewhere somehow. Wasn't the CIA created right around the same time as the alleged ufo crashes first started happening? If so they've never really looked back have they?


I need some history lessons.

Ron Paul would never get elected because they already know who is going to be president with their time travel tech.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

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This is like an Israeli saying let's get rid of Mossad or Pakistan saying let's get rid of ISI.
All statements would be equally on the spot!

Well, there is nothing wrong with good intelligence imo- it's primo these days, and Israel's Mossad does a good job I think in spite of detractors and her many enemys.
its like anywhere else- management must operate in the highest interests of the nation and her peoples- I think unfortunately that the CIA has gone rogue to the point that the Lady of Liberty is in jeopardy and what is worse-Government is not accountable to the people.
re
Al Ahram, Cairo: "Mossad Superman Meir Dagan" slowed Iran's nuclear plans
DEBKAfile Special Report
January 16, 2010, 5:26 PM (GMT+02:00)
Meir Dagan in third term as Mossad chief

The Egyptian media rarely have a good word to say about Israel or Israelis, but Saturday, Jan. 16, the semi-official Al Ahram, glowingly profiled the director of the Mossad external intelligence agency, Meir Dagan, in epic terms as a hero who singlehandedly delayed Iran's advance on a nuclear weapon by "several years," scaled down "Syria's military capabilities" and may have been behind last week's assassination of Iranian nuclear scientist Mehsud Ali-Mohammadi in North Tehran.
..snip
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reply to post by ModernAcademia


Well, look out Ron Paul. The last person to threaten to abolish the CIA didn't fare too well (JFK).

FREEDOM! Fight for the FREEDOM RON! FIGHT FOR IT GIVE IT EVERYTHING YOU HAVE YOUR ARE A HERO IN THE AFTERLIFE! KEEP FIGHTING FOR IT!

Ron is the guy trying to turn people around when the Government, Big Business and Media are using psychological techniques to fulfill their evil desire as they are in a position of greed. These three entities are trying to lead people one way, away from freedom and love, into a pool of desire, lust, fear, instinct, consumerism, etc.

When will people realize that Government, and other evil entities such as a lot of Corporations, are just anti-love establishments using our God-given senses for love, manipulating them for these people in positions of greed to retain and expand their power.

McDonalds - I'm lovin it..... YEAH RIGHT GET OUT OF HERE!

George Bush Jr on Haiti - Don't send food or blankets, just send MONEY (evil smirk) .. We'll look after it (in a George Bush Snr tone) ....... They want to replace your love with a screen filled with 0's and 1's - with them controlling the 0's and 1's.

Stand up People! A REVOLUTION IS COMING!

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Breaking News! CIA takes out Ron Paul!

The CIA is just an appendage and not the brain. This is useless.

I don't agree with taking out the CIA but it does need to be regulated and held accountable much more than the previous "outdated" model. The same goes for every american federal agency.

Over the past decades, their authority has increased rather than decreased..not good! No one knows how much they spend, where they spend time/money/manpower or even what their objectives are. It has become a government of its own!

How far will CIA go against anti-war movements, do you think?

Lookie:

www.911blogger.com...
www.911blogger.com...

Martin Luther King family's lawyer that won the civil trial that found US government agencies guilty in MLK's murder
and some of dr. Kings anti-war speeches


Martin Luther King family's lawyer

Google Video Link

A Photographer Joe O'Donnell discusses seeing Autopsy Photos CHANGED to hide the shot to JFK's head from the front.
And the many doctors that saw the hole in the back of JFK's head, proving that there were a shooter from the front


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reply to post by MessOnTheFED!


Yes, I know, I was being ironic when I asked where you were and if you voted for him because I found it ironic that you were talking about pitching a tent if her ran when he DID run.

The point I was making was what was your deal that you weren't aware of him running? Did you not watch any of the debates? What made you so interrested in the presidential situation now when you apparently had no interest in 2008?

reply to post by craig732


I try to make it a point not to listen to lyers. To tell you the truth I wouldn't have any idea about this man if it weren't for this site. I'm so used to being lied to by politicians that I lost all interest in the whole ordeal. I guess it is wrong of me to do that, but I can't bring myself to watch things like that because most of the time these people are lying through their teeth.

MessOnThefed!



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reply to post by Hermitoutofhishole


I will side with you on this one, that he didn't wake up really anyone who has half a brain and uses it.

I think what he did, though, was help explain some of the more hidden principles at play.

Either way, the sad thing is that if his message were heard by anyone who is asleep...they ain't waking up...nope, thank you *hits the snore button*

They just don't care or want to care. They want to believe things are equal and that they have a chance for a picket fence or new BMW or some other nearly impossible dream. It's like a delusion that drives them to keep pushing on.

I understand it. I have experienced temporary delusion. I got audio set of motivational CDs. They not only worked, they made me delusional as if I could accomplish the most greatest achievements if I just kept trying.

Then, you have youth that grow up hearing "you can do anything you set your mind to. (Eminem + others) What if you're bipolar with mood swings that prevent you from even holding a steady job. Can I be a famous white rapper to. Maybe be asking for a miracle.

America is chock full of delusional people with blindfolds over their eyes to state and who really influences public policy. These people are smart (politicians). They can convince you that the deal presented to you is fair and in your best interests. (Lowering taxes, tax breaks, fair trials), and what are you going to do about? Fight? They got military for you even if you have a small army. What about writing a book? Plenty have done that, to expose them.

It seems even the ones who have a clue, just feel powerless. You are when you and all your friends get living life la vie en rose and get your news only from the TV. I think some people just want to be enslaved, as long as their have their entertainments.

Does the VATICAN control the CIA?

Has anyone ever hear that theory?

I just noticed this for the first time while watching this video, he said:

they take out dictators... We need to take out the CIA!

I agree with the rest of his statement. The CIA is obviously out of hand. They do a lot of evil. As well as the other alphabet groups. But isn't taking out dictators a good thing?

reply to post by EagleTalonZ


They also help install dictators too Ron!!
Don't forget that!

This thread is difficult. It's difficult to to add anything of substance that hasn't already been stated with conviction & truth. Dr. Ron Paul is indeed a sorely needed visionary. Current and past administrations have clearly done a face plant into an eagerly awaiting pile of self created steaming feces. Dr. Paul's statements on the C.I.A are, naturally, spot on.

We've all seen the countless threads showing just how nefarious and outright evil this "organization" really is. The CIA are easily the best funded and trained groups of tyrants alive. They have single handedly caused more global chaos than any other terrorist group could possibly even begin to claim.

When the Forward Operation Base Chapman incident occurred I was secretly elated. No not at the fact that ordinary people with families were killed but that it served as a blow to the CIA. Besides if your going to join the CIA you know full well the potential consequences, so deal with it.

The CIA Memorial Wall places a star for members killed in action. This memorial needs more stars, a lot more. I have no pity or feelings of remorse for its members but I do for their families who, in most cases, are not even aware of the lifestyle their others have chosen.

Kudos to Dr. Ron Paul for speaking the truth and trying to make a difference.

brill

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reply to post by EagleTalonZ


They take out socialist "dictators"(for the people) and install powerful right-wing dictatorships, especially in central and south america. Then the PTB make the governments sell all their national treasures at a ridiculously low price while linning the pockets of the "leaders". Most of this bribed money ends up in secret, offshore accounts were tracing it becomes nearly impossible.

All the alphabet agencies, and especially the cia and nsa, are direct puppets of the "elite" nwo. Who is the nwo? Mostly old money that can be traced to renaissance europe, 19th-20th century usa and powerful people in asia. A good rule is ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY and POWER CORRUPTS!

In the end it boils down to a class struggle between various groups and sub-groups. The best defense against the NWO is and has always been labor unions but unfortunately they have been watered down lately and are virtually powerless to do anything.

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


Well, I was really making more of a joke. I personally feel that taking out dictators IS a good thing. I don't agree with them in the least however. The alphabet groups are not with the general public on any matter. They bring far more harm than good, imo.

I believe what you're saying. It sounds about right that they would virtually "rape" any nation they can. The great manipulators that they are.