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Leading Scientist prediction, '30 years of Global Cooling'

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posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 10:56 PM

Here is the link. I hope he is right because I hate hot weather. But in all seriousness I believe this has been happening for quite a while now but it's more about temperature swings than climate change.

posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 04:12 AM
From the comparable thread in News...

Of course, the Daily Mail made up a lot stuff for this article, like this whopper about the NSIDC’s work:


As NSIDC Director wrote me, “This is completely false. NSIDC has never made such a statement and we were never contacted by anyone from the Daily Mail. We hope that this is simply a case of very lazy journalism and nothing more.”

In an interview today, [Latif] confirmed that he accepts the IPCC’s finding that most of the warming in the past century was very likely due to human causes — “definitely,” he said.

He remains puzzled and dismayed by articles like those in the Daily Mail...


Call Dr. Latif up and ask him if accepts the IPCC’s finding that, as he put it, most of the warming in the past century was very likely due to human causes. He had me reread the quotes attributed to him a number of times, asking twice, “those are direct quotes?” After I did, he said to me: “I don’t know what to do. They just make these things up.”

Dinky-lin k

More misrepresentation and deception from the denial industry.


Editor's note: An earlier version of this article erroneously reported that the NSIDC reports concluded that the warming of the Earth since 1900 is due to natural oceanic cycles.

I see Fox were good enough to fix one of their falsehoods. Just the Daily Mail to go for that one, and both for the Latif stuff.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by melatonin]

posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 07:07 AM
Global cooling is happening and it's all our fault, we simply don't pollute enough, not enough cars on the road, we use energy too effeciently, we don't fart enough.....

I'm sure they will find a way to tax us on that!

posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 07:35 AM

Originally posted by melatonin
From the comparable thread in News...

Of course, the Daily Mail made up a lot stuff for this article, like this whopper about the NSIDC’s work

More misrepresentation and deception from the denial industry.


Is that something like the "misrepresentation and deception " the IPCC incorporated into their 2007 report?

Glaciologists are this week arguing over how a highly contentious claim about the speed at which glaciers are melting came to be included in the latest report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

So who, exactly, takes stories from popular magazines and turns them into “consensus?” IPCC?

In 1999 New Scientist reported a comment by the leading Indian glaciologist Syed Hasnain, who said in an email interview with this author that all the glaciers in the central and eastern Himalayas could disappear by 2035.
Hasnain, of Jawaharlal Nehru University in Delhi, who was then chairman of the International Commission on Snow and Ice's working group on Himalayan glaciology, has never repeated the prediction in a peer-reviewed journal. He now says the comment was "speculative".
Despite the 10-year-old New Scientist report being the only source, the claim found its way into the IPCC fourth assessment report published in 2007. Moreover the claim was extrapolated to include all glaciers in the Himalayas.

New Scientist:Debate heats up over IPCC melting-glaciers claim

Oops! Distorted, did we?

Chapter 10 of the report says: "Glaciers in the Himalaya are receding faster than in any other part of the world."
The inclusion of this statement has angered many glaciologists, who regard it as unjustified. Vijay Raina, a leading Indian glaciologist, wrote in a discussion paper published by the Indian government in November that there is no sign of "abnormal" retreat in Himalayan glaciers. India's environment minister, Jairam Ramesh, accused the IPCC of being "alarmist".
The IPCC's chairman, Rajendra Pachauri, has hit back, denouncing the Indian government report as "voodoo science" lacking peer review. He adds that "we have a very clear idea of what is happening" in the Himalayas.
The IPCC report sources the prediction to a document published by the environment group WWF in 2005; this document quotes the New Scientist article as its source. The WWF report describes the prediction as "disturbing", without specifically endorsing it.
Nonetheless, the IPCC report goes further, concluding without citing further evidence that the prediction is "very likely" – a term that it says means a likelihood of greater than 90 per cent.
Graham Cogley, a geographer from Trent University in Peterborough, Ontario, Canada, says the 2035 date is extremely unlikely. "At current melting rates it might take up to 10 times longer," he says.
However, the lead author of the IPCC chapter, Indian glaciologist Murari Lal, told New Scientist he "outright rejected" the notion that the IPCC was off the mark on Himalayan glaciers. "The IPCC authors did exactly what was expected from them," he says.
"We relied rather heavily on grey [not peer-reviewed] literature, including the WWF report," Lal says. "The error, if any, lies with Dr Hasnain's assertion and not with the IPCC authors."
But Hasnain rejects that. He blames the IPCC for misusing a remark he made to a journalist. "The magic number of 2035 has not [been] mentioned in any research papers written by me, as no peer-reviewed journal will accept speculative figures," he told New Scientist.
"It is not proper for IPCC to include references from popular magazines or newspapers," Hasnain adds.

Funny how that is acceptable if it serves the AGW faithful, isn't it?

The lying and deception supporting, ever weakly, AGW become more evident by the day.

deny ignorance


[edit on 12-1-2010 by jdub297]

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