UAE Sheik

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Please I would love to hear you spin this one.

Muslim Fatwa

If by being a peace loving human being = blind, then please help me find my stick because I would prefer not to have corrective vision surgery thanks to the NWO.

Edit: It would also be really helpful to the debate if you could actually comment on my post rather than just accuse me of having my head in the sand. Explain your position please with a bit of fact thrown in, show me how Shari law is "creeping" in. What legislation changes have been made which mirror it please, I don't know of any so if I am ignorant of the fact please educate me and gain a supporter.

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Do your own research, there are plenty of sites with information you need. Unless you want to pay me because I charge $500 per hour.
Start with:
www.mapsofwar.com (religion map)
www.thereligionofpeace.com
www.jihadwatch.com is informative about current articles
Walid Pharis and Sue Myrick also have links you can search.

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No come on that's not a debate.

So you post your views, refuse to engage in debate (the point of the site) then tell me to research because my head is in the sand. Educate me...

Explain how my logic and common sense if flawed and that I need to grab a pitchfork too.

www.mapsofwar.com (religion map) So that shows me that Christianity has been the widest spreading religion of the last thousand years. So your point is?

www.thereligionofpeace.com Board for tracking extremist activity not the actions of the entire muslim faith. Think I agreed that they were the bad guys already. Gotcha

www.jihadwatch.com Site in the main promoting racial hatred, and far right political views.

Is this the extent of your font of wisdom?

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Sharia Banking: The Silent Jihad Against the West

And don't forget Umar Farooq Abdulmutallab father is the one who brought this to Nigeria and then helped bring this to America.

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So the greedy bankers are going after middle eastern money now? So what's new? America does business with China as well, do you feel more communist?

I don't see the connection really or a justification for genocide which has openly been advocated. This is not Sharia law creeping in under the door at all, this is some speculative suites trying to muscle in on a trillion dollars. It will not change the way you or I live our lives will it?

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FDIC Issues University Bank Cease and Desist Order

In a document released last week, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. and the state’s Office of Financial and Insurance Regulation laid out 16 unsafe or unsound banking practices and violations of laws, rules or regulations that it said University Bank was engaging in. The report then detailed how exactly regulators want the community bank to fix everything in 28 different areas, most with deadlines within 120 days.

Among the charges were that the bank had been operating with a board of directors that failed to provide adequate supervision, had ineffective internal controls, and inadequate earnings, liquidity and investment policies.

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Yep there are HUGE problems in the entire banking sector globally. Like giving out home loans to people without any means to pay, rolling them all up as triple AAA securities and selling them on. Madoff and his kind as well but how does any of this respond to my post?

Was Islam responsible for the global financial meltdown? I fail to see what your trying to communicate and I am trying hard to see it.

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Tired of doing your research for you.
"A 2008 report by the General Council for Islamic Banks and Financial Institutions estimates the Islamic banking industry to stand at $442 billion. Even big name banks such as Citigroup, HSBC, and Deutsche Bank are developing Islamic banking sectors to cater to the demand."
www.cfr.org...
This includes catering to Sharia Laws and money transactions.
The Minneopolis cabbies, the minarets in Switzerland, the car-b-ques in Paris and Italy, honor killing and many other examples if you want to open your eyes. Again, I am not going to do your research for you. Take a look around before Islam bites you in the azz.

Shariah Islamic Law in America and Europe: What the West Needs To Know

Joy Brighton, MBA, Shariah Islamic Banking specialist, and ACT! for America Fellow, exposes the link between banks who offer Shariah Finance and Radical Islam, Iran, Sept 11th, oppression of Muslim women , global human rights abuses and the funding of Jihad. Is the withholding of this information to American bank customers and shareholders Security and Consumer Fraud?

#3 Shariah Finance: Securities Fraud?

Joy Brighton, MBA, Shariah Islamic Banking specialist, and ACT! for America Fellow, describes two US Lawsuits which expose the dangers of Shariah Finance. A Philadelphia lawsuit alleges that Middle East Shariah banks sent charity dollars to Al-Qaeda which paid for Sept 11th attacks. Another lawsuit against our US TSY alleges that taxpayer bail out money to AIG was used to create an Anti-American Shariah Insurance business, and violates U.S. law.

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reply to post by JJay55


Yes and you are fully entitled to your views and I fully respect that. What I am trying to do is find out the basis for the fearmongering, blatant racism and calls for genocide of an entire religion.

A few minarets in Switzerland, poor banking controls and cab drivers do not add up to a justification. Even George W would have problems making that one fly. Neither are they signs that you will be underhouse arrest as a Christian in the US. The US has had deep business ties with the middle east for a long time, I suggest it is you that is need of some research away from the extreme hate propaganda sites.

When you want to do successful business with other nations there has to be some give and take, respect of mutual cultural differences. Just in the same way you as a westerner can drink beer in Dubai in certain places and not get stoned for it. There is no difference, a bar selling beer would be just as offensive to a Muslim in his home country as you seem to find a minaret. Neither justifies the slaughter of the Muslim or Christian faiths..

If you want to live in an isolationist country, I understand North Korea has some space. Sorry for being blunt but outragous claims have been made and starred, just no substance to justify such extreme feelings has been provided.

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Yes and the US funded the IRA and the Taliban in the fight against the Soviet Union. Would that justify your extermination? I don't think so, your grabbing at straws.

Justification please, they are your views not mine so I can't help you.

Originally posted by Bunker or Bust
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Yes and the US funded the IRA and the Taliban in the fight against the Soviet Union. Would that justify your extermination? I don't think so, your grabbing at straws.

Justification please, they are your views not mine so I can't help you.

So when did I say anything about extermination? I just think its time that people are showed what is going on. And political correctness is hiding the truth in plain site of things most people would find wrong and would not allow. But the threat of being called islamophobic is turning people away from even looking into what is right in front of them.

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I agree the threat of being called a racist does silence alot of people. And yes there are due concerns which need to be addressed with regards to a small number of extremists on both sides of the arguement. Extreme Islam is part of the wider problem, your can find the same people in almost all countries and all religions. That small minority is what needs to be contained, not the vast majority of people like you, I or a normal Muslim that are just trying to survive on this rock as well.

I am not saying you are 100% incorrect at all, but what I am saying is that building of race or religious hatred and the advocation of mass murder as has been suggested in this thread is not acceptable. That is not political correctness, that is being a decent human being.

The Concept of Islamic Finance Pt. 2

Fast forward to 7:30 and hear in Mufti Taqi Usmani own words about sharia banking is not seperate of sharia law or the governing of a persons life in following the deen. And if you want to know who he is you can listen to the 10 minute introduction they gave him as a leader in sharia banking and the concept of islamic finance. And deen is what Umar Farooq Abdulmutallab wrote about so much under the screen name farouq1986 and later ran of to Yemen to follow, And then returned only to try and blow up a plane.

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But it is the Western bankers courting them, so they can get access to the trillions and they will do anything for it. The Islamic banking system has been that way for hundreds of years, its not some new cunning attack vector dreamed up by extremists. How many high street Sharia banks do you have in your town or city? Lots? These western bankers are the same people that caused all the finanical destruction and carnage that we have to deal with daily. Triggered mass unemployment, hardship for so many. Who have gone unchecked and still get there big fat bonus cheques, bailed out by you and me with insane amounts of money. They are part of the enemy not the Muslim's.. These western bankers know what they are signing up for and don't care, is that the Muslim worlds fault?

Your confusing your target, and as much as I would love to say hang a banker they are human too (hard to believe I know) so they should be arrested for fraud or gross incompetence. Their actions have destabilised countries better than some black ops team has ever been able to achieve!

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