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The 'Nigerian', Another False Flag and the MSM

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posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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Is the false flag waving once again? Even without the helpful man at Schiphol greasing the boarding for 'The Nigerian', this link provides fodder to the notion that the event was not only allowed to happen, but, in some ways, even orchestrated.

We're not hearing much on the Main Stream Media (MSM) in relation to the involvement of some 'alphabet' companies and that's bothersome to me.

The link provided asks an important question: who stands to benefit?

So, this thread asks two questions:

Is it a false flag operation or not.
Is Global Research a credible source?


That intelligence officers, including those at the highest levels of the secret state's security apparat, did nothing to hamper an alleged al-Qaeda operative from getting on that plane--in a chilling echo of the 9/11 attacks--calls into question the thin tissue of lies outlined in the official narrative.

An Intelligence "Failure," or a Wild "Success" for Security Corporations?

www.globalresearch.ca...


Please read the entire article.

Related:

www.globalresearch.ca...
www.globalresearch.ca...

I've used this website as a source in the past and now that I'm seeing other members using it, I believe it to be a pertinent issue to question its credibility.




posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 05:45 PM
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Well if the man buying the ticket was Asian... Maybe it was China! Or maybe N. Korea! It is too easy to lay the blame on a alphabet agency from the US. Maybe it was another nation testing the water or heaven forbid maybe Al Qaeda does exist and they are testing the new administration. When you show weakness, someone is sure to come around test your resolve!



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 06:19 PM
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I view global research as a credible source.

from your source


And here's where things take a decidedly malevolent turn. According to the Times, "C.I.A. officials in Nigeria also prepared a separate report compiling biographical information about Mr. Abdulmutallab, including his educational background and the fact that he was considering pursuing academic studies in Islamic law in Yemen."

"That cable was sent to C.I.A. headquarters in Langley, Va.," Mark Mazzetti and Eric Lipton disclosed, "but not disseminated to other intelligence agencies, government officials said on Wednesday."


This contradicts a source I found.


The president complained that a warning from the former London engineering student’s father and information about an al Qaeda bomb plot involving a Nigerian were not handled properly by the intelligence networks.

But CIA officials say the data was sent to the US National Counterterrorism Centre in Washington, which was set up after the 9/11 attacks as a clearing house where raw data should be analysed.

Agents claim that is where the dots should have been connected to help identify Abdulmutallab as a threat.


www.dailymail.co.uk...

The NCC is a part of the DNI Director of National Intelligence.


The National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) is a United States government organization responsible for national and international counterterrorism efforts. NCTC advises the United States on terrorism. It is often described, inaccurately, as the real version of the Counter Terrorist Unit from the American serial television series 24.

The center is part of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and draws experts from the CIA, FBI, Pentagon, and other agencies who try to ensure that clues about potential attacks are not missed


en.wikipedia.org...

The DNI and CIA have been fighting each other lately.


CIA wins turf battle over DNI: But is it over?


www.federalnewsradio.com...

Of course Panetta has admitted that the DNI is his daddy.


A bit baffled by Panetta's response, Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, asked him point blank, "Is the DNI your boss or not?" Panetta's answer, "The DNI is my boss."


www.cnn.com...

IMO, there is motive to paint the CIA in bad light.

Is this the case? Not sure, but merits attention.

I also believe that after all the negative publicity the CIA has received in the last few years, they would be more determine to correct their image.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 07:05 PM
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False flag operations are covert operations which are designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities.
False Flag



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 07:17 PM
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Exactly. The Nigerian, Yemen terror organizations, etc.

However, there is this:

www.globalresearch.ca...


The Times reported that a "family cousin quoted the father as warning officials from the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency in Nigeria: 'Look at the texts he's sending. He's a security threat'."

Nothing vague in this disclosure, but rather more concrete evidence in the form of "texts" which we now know were shortstopped by British security and included "phone taps, email intercepts and other forms of surveillance" by MI5 that led an anguished father to express well-placed fears about his son to U.S officials.

But as the Times were told by their source, "They promised to look into it. They didn't take him seriously."

And here's where things take a decidedly malevolent turn. According to the Times, "C.I.A. officials in Nigeria also prepared a separate report compiling biographical information about Mr. Abdulmutallab, including his educational background and the fact that he was considering pursuing academic studies in Islamic law in Yemen."

"That cable was sent to C.I.A. headquarters in Langley, Va.," Mark Mazzetti and Eric Lipton disclosed, "but not disseminated to other intelligence agencies, government officials said on Wednesday."

www.globalresearch.ca...


Did the CIA innocently miss the red flags? Could there have been a purpose behind missing those flags?

Who stood to gain most by this combination of Keystone Cops and a bumbling, fumbling terrorist? It might not have been ordered up from POTUS, but it sure could have been orchestrated by those who stand to get more funding over the issue.



posted on Jan, 5 2010 @ 07:24 PM
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Thanks for your considered reply. Reead it after I responded to ADVISOR.

I agree that there may be a communication problem between the different alphabet companies. Too many fingers in the pie?



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 01:51 AM
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I think you must take a closer look at what is now called the Terrorism/Industrial Complex we have Richard Clarke who has been hawking those full body scans in airports along with former Secretary of homeland defense Michael Chertoff.Now ask yourself who would gain the most from a failed attack?



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 07:30 AM
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That's what I'm thinking.

Yesterday:


After initially denying that they had received British intelligence, senior American sources confirmed last night that they were "reviewing" what British information had been received on Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

The admission is embarrassing for the White House and threatens to provoke a rift with Gordon Brown. The conflicting briefing over the shared intelligence also suggests that the transatlantic relationship may have weakened in recent months.

telegraph


Today:


Appearing before the House of Commons, the home secretary, Alan Johnson, retracted an assertion made on Monday by a spokesman for Prime Minister Gordon Brown that implied that Britain had passed intelligence information about Mr. Abdulmutallab to the United States that might have helped avert the attack.

“I would like to clarify that no information was held by the U.K. or shared by the U.K. with the U.S. that indicated that Abdulmutallab was about to attempt a terrorism attack against the U.S.,” Mr. Johnson said.

www.nytimes.com...


Who do we believe?

When the lying starts, the red flags go up, imo.

Going to be an interesting few days as Potus got pretty upset on the telly last night. Some heads are going to roll. Maybe we'll get the truth, maybe not, but this whole thing still stinks of a black flag operation orchestrated by those who stand to benefit the most... (government) security organizations.

[edit on 6/1/10 by masqua]



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:09 PM
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Masqusa,check this out: tarpley.net... nbc/



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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I have a problem with the first article. The author says that the Nigerian was just used to create terror, then he goes on to say he WAS a terrorist. He should make up his mind. Mr. Haskel who has evidence of a false flag senario has said maybe he was wrong, but he needs to see the surveillance footage to be sure. They will never let him see it.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:31 PM
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Why do people find it easier to to think every thing is controled, and led by secret by a secret cabal?. Whille there is calution between certain government agencies and the corporate community, it hardly points to some grand design to screw the rest of us. I believe there are huge "associations" between business and government. But total control and power over society? Thats not the way it works



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by arbiture
Why do people find it easier to to think every thing is controled, and led by secret by a secret cabal?. Whille there is calution between certain government agencies and the corporate community, it hardly points to some grand design to screw the rest of us. I believe there are huge "associations" between business and government. But total control and power over society? Thats not the way it works


"In a radical report, the UN Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) has said the system of currencies and capital rules which binds the world economy is not working properly, and was largely responsible for the financial and economic crises.

It added that the present system, under which the dollar acts as the world's reserve currency , should be subject to a wholesale reconsideration
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I think your statement whilst valid in my opinion on reading it, is that you are probably a very nice well meaning and thinking person but grossly naïve.

Oh and when you see UN it's actually US front, when you see WTO/IMF it’s a private banking cartel, just remember that for future research. Enjoy!



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 05:10 PM
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If you'd listen to some like the OP here, you might actually begin to believe that the American government sits around all day thinking up ways to attack it's own people and blame others. What isn't a false flag event these days? I bet the entire CIA budget is devoted to flying around the world, dressing up as locals and doing harm. Maybe all crime is really just the CIA making it look like some people do bad things others for any number of reasons!

Our entire human experience is a USA CIA Psy-OP, the fact that everyone, everywhere, doesn't get along at all times is proof-positive of that.

Where do you draw the line? Why can't someone who doesn't like America fail to blow up a plane all by himself? Security can't fail, ever?

You can't make someone splatter his own nutsack all over the interior of a plane. What are you going to do? Threaten to cut off his nu... oh wait.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by ZombieOctopus
If you'd listen to some like the OP here, you might actually begin to believe that the American government sits around all day thinking up ways to attack it's own people and blame others.


I think you're missing the point. If you watched POTUS on the news yesterday, he seemed a little more that 'ticked off'. I'm not saying it was orchestrated by the government at the highest levels, but by those who would benefit the most, the private companies and govenment offices which are responsible for security.

They stand to gain extra manpower, equipment and funding from your tax dollars.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 07:21 PM
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That was an interesting slant. Thanks for posting it.

Turf wars and a way to embarrass POTUS.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 08:13 PM
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Perhaps there's more behind this bumbling bomber than meets the eye. There's nothing like a terror attack to focus American voters.


The Yemen Hidden Agenda: Behind the Al-Qaeda Scenarios, A Strategic Oil Transit Chokepoint

Before 1990, Washington and the Saudi Kingdom backed and supported Saleh and his policy of Islamization as a bid to contain the communist south.[2] Since then Saleh has relied on a strong Salafist-jihadi movement to retain a one-man dictatorial rule. The break with Saleh by al-Fadhli and his joining the southern opposition group with his former socialist foes marked a major setback for Saleh.

www.globalresearch.ca...



Sounds like Afghanistan where the Russians had their hands full when US operatives supplied arms and intel to... erm, Al Qaida, doesn't it?



The picture that emerges is one of a desperate US-backed dictator, Yemen’s President Saleh, increasingly losing control after two decades as despotic ruler of the unified Yemen. Economic conditions in the country took a drastic downward slide in 2008 when world oil prices collapsed.



Oh, yeah. Oil. That keeps popping up, doesn't it? Seems like anywhere oil flows, the guns start blazing away.




Into this chaotic domestic picture comes the January 2009 announcement, prominently featured in select Internet websites, that Al Qaeda, the alleged global terrorist organization created by the late CIA-trained Saudi, Osama bin Laden, has opened a major new branch in Yemen for both Yemen and Saudi operations.



Right on cue. Need to stir the pot, just call Al Qaeda. Show a few vids, have a few sound bites, and viola... a reason to go to war is made. How predictable.


Al Qaeda in Yemen released a statement through online jihadist forums Jan. 20, 2009 from the group’s leader Nasir al-Wahayshi, announcing formation of a single al Qaeda group for the Arabian Peninsula under his command.



Just what was needed. Thank you, Nasir. Now the dictator can get internationalmiliary help.


Days later an online video from al-Wahayshi appeared under the alarming title, "We Start from Here and We Will Meet at al-Aqsa."



Woohoo! Pawns on the move.


The curious emergence of a tiny but well-publicized al Qaeda in southern Yemen amid what observers call a broad-based popular-based Southern Movement front that eschews the radical global agenda of al Qaeda, serves to give the Pentagon a kind of casus belli to escalate US military operations in the strategic region.



Well, yeah, and why not? After all...


The US Government Energy Information Agency states that "closure of the Bab el-Mandab could keep tankers from the Persian Gulf from reaching the Suez Canal/Sumed pipeline complex, diverting them around the southern tip of Africa. The Strait of Bab el-Mandab is a chokepoint between the horn of Africa and the Middle East, and a strategic link between the Mediterranean Sea and Indian Ocean."


Ships would be using too much bunker c, dipping into those hard-won profits.



an excuse for a US or NATO militarization of the waters around Bab el-Mandab would give Washington another major link in its pursuit of control of the seven most critical oil chokepoints around the world, a major part of any future US strategy aimed at denying oil flows to China, the EU or any region or country that opposes US policy.


Checkmate.

Now, about that bumbling Nigerian bomber again. Ever wonder why there has been such a world-wild response over this fellow that flew into Schiphol from Yemen and on to the USofA?

Well, now you know. He's done everyone a great service by making the attempt. Now there's a reason to go into Yemen that Americans (and a few other countries) can get behind.

Otherwise, no-one would have cared a whit about Yemen.



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by masqua
They stand to gain extra manpower, equipment and funding from your tax dollars.


That's exactly it too, while state and city budgets are looking forward to next years grants, firemen and police ladies (no offense Semp, you still look good in a mini
) are taking layoffs, and depending on next years budget to keep them employed.

Since there has not been any major terror acts in the US in almost a decade now, the "necessity" for defense spending has shifted from HLS to foreign asset assistance.

Meaning, instead of ensuring that each state has enough money to pay police officers and fire fighters to respond to emegencies, they are laying off those public services to bribe alleged "Jordanian underwearbomb wearing doctors"....





Yeah, "Jordanian doctor suicide bomber", uh huh and I have a nice Gulf of Mexico beach front time share for sale in Alaska for you.


What ever, people are more likely to be killed by a land mine in Jordan near the dead Sea, or a stray Helbollah or Hamas attack from the west bank, than a suicide bomber doctor travelling abroad.

Don't get me, wrong, not saying terrorists don;t exist in Jordan or have not been Jordanian, but the pattern of suicide bombers is not doctors.

My guess is, they don't really know jack, and are trying to pull as much crap out of thier back sides, in order to cover up their slacking arses.

They need to pay attention to detail, and not be so damn complacent. Because that is what gets people killed, being lazy when they should have their heads on a swivel.

It is a sad reality if the "alleged" bomber actually is or was a doctor, because if the highest payed profession in most countries are willing to kill themselves. Then the world is in a worse state of affairs, than all of us together have hope of repairing...

It just doesn't add up, and I for one am not buying it.

Of course, I know many of you are not either, so hey why preach to the choir.

Odd word choir, quior, qwi uor, qui err, like a wierd drunken Budwieser frog.




[edit on 6-1-2010 by ADVISOR]



posted on Jan, 6 2010 @ 11:31 PM
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I think this maybe the rouge networks next move in the quest for the remaining oil in the world.Then we have the domestic security companies banging the drum for the full body scan x-ray machines.Funny how these things seem to happen whenever their profits and power are threatened...



posted on Jan, 12 2010 @ 03:41 PM
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The criticism being offered by Global Research over the 'bumbling bomber'is non-stop. For me, at issue is both the event itself plus the reports the site keeps putting up.

As I've said earlier in this thread, something just doesn't seem right on this. The response, world-wide, is overwhelming and the increased security measures being put in place are stunning. Now, comparisons to 9/11 are being made and, while the response might well be on the same level, the act itself pales with what happened in NYC.

Please read the story in its entirety:


In remarks January 7 announcing the White House's preliminary review of alleged "intelligence failures" responsible for the near detonation of a bomb aboard Flight 253, President Obama said that "America's first line of defense is timely, accurate intelligence that is shared, integrated, analyzed, and acted upon quickly and effectively."

Echoing remarks made Tuesday, Obama reiterated the trope that the secret state "failed to connect the dots in a way that would have prevented a known terrorist from boarding a plane for America."

[...]

In a maneuver to deflect public attention from the glaring similarities between the 9/11 provocation and the near-tragedy Christmas Day over Detroit, Obama claimed that "intelligence reforms" instituted under the previous regime had "largely achieved" the goal of generating said "timely intelligence."

Leaving aside overwhelming evidence that secret state agencies and a Pentagon data mining program had amassed terabytes of data on the 9/11 hijack team, including detailed profiles and intelligence dossiers, and that the Bush administration had been repeatedly warned by elements within their own counterterrorism agencies as well as their foreign counterparts in Britain, Egypt, France, Germany, Italy, Jordan, Morocco and Russia, in other words possessed "timely intelligence" that an attack was imminent, the "connect the dot" meme, as with 9/11, is handmaiden to today's transparent cover-up.

The President then alleged that despite knowledge of the "al Qaeda affiliate in Yemen," and that secret state agencies had amassed considerable information on Abdulmutallab's ostensible Yemeni confederates, and that "we knew they sought to strike the United States and that they were recruiting operatives to do so," as with 9/11, "the intelligence community did not aggressively follow up on and prioritize particular streams of intelligence related to a possible attack against the homeland."

[...]

Conclusion

As of this writing, it is not yet possible to provide a comprehensive answer as to why these events unfolded as they did. I am however, certain of one thing: the Obama administration, the security agencies presumably under its control and the corporate media, johnny-on-the-spot when it comes to covering-up imperialism's multitude of crimes, are lying to the American people.


www.globalresearch.ca...


After reading the above, I have to once again question the validity of the reporting on the Global Research website. It reads just a little 'over-the-top' to me. How credible are the accusations made in this article and the previous related Global Research articles covering the Christmas bomber?

Who is Tom Burghardt?


Tom Burghardt is a researcher and activist based in the San Francisco Bay Area. In addition to publishing in Covert Action Quarterly and Global Research, his articles can be read on Dissident Voice, The Intelligence Daily, Pacific Free Press, Uncommon Thought Journal, and the whistleblowing website Wikileaks. He is the editor of Police State America: U.S. Military "Civil Disturbance" Planning, distributed by AK Press.



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